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93097004xx 07-25-2020 03:36 PM

Oh WOW the new CORVETTE..
 
Had the opportunity to look at a 2020 Corvette up close today. Red with light tan full leather..

GM has managed to build a interior with ZERO PLASTIC !!! Never thought in 10,000 years that could be a reality.

The interior of the new corvette is pretty much full leather and honestly the fit and finish are like no GM car I have ever seen..

The dash is AMAZING peculiarly like a 918..

Car is just drop dead GORGEOUS. I know nothing of its performance but can say that the WOW factor of one of these up close is right there with Italian exotics German exotics.

GM has built a truly impressive supercar and I wish Porsche could build something mid engined (not a 718) like this in the $200,000 range that could be competitive in the supercar market.

I really think the supercar market is tired of GT 1 2 3 4 5 R RS on and on..

Porsche needs to build a purpose built mid engined supercar (not hypercar) in the $200,000 range without all the electronic BS and in a true manual..

Again GM this is extremely extremely well done. This new Corvette is the best ever.

Chocaholic 07-25-2020 04:11 PM

And it’s not $200,000!

rusnak 07-25-2020 04:17 PM

I kind of thought it looked like the tomboy girl who got dressed up for the prom with her mom's help. But still has a face that only a mother could love.

pavulon 07-25-2020 04:25 PM

While not a fan of the C8 styling, the Z06 and ZR1 versions should be remarkable!

stevej37 07-25-2020 04:43 PM

It's just a 'glorified chevette' :D

BK911 07-25-2020 05:44 PM

In the age of super fast super cars, I still prefer my 914 and bug. They go fast enough to work. To each their own I guess.

LEAKYSEALS951 07-25-2020 06:00 PM

My uncle had a C7 z06 as well as every previous version of everything vette. When vettes got boring, he delved into stangs and buicks 87'ishs etc...

All I can say, is that the interiors have come a long wayz baby.
So has the setup. I imagine these new ones handle better than a well setup 944.

Haven ridden in one, it took corners faster than my sc took straights!
I threw out the shorts.
:D
Good on America!!!!!!!!;);););)

HardDrive 07-25-2020 06:44 PM

I want to see it in person. I hated the Cayman when I saw it online. But loved it when I saw it in person. You have to get a in cars space to really understand it.

RANDY P 07-25-2020 06:51 PM

Saw one in the flesh the other day. I hate to say it, but it looks like a garish kit car from the rear. Tail lights, rear end no bueno.

Sure it goes like stink tho.

Ducman 07-25-2020 06:59 PM

Well...yah....it’s not a pretty car

JackDidley 07-25-2020 06:59 PM

I saw them a couple weeks ago at the museum. 4 were waiting for delivery and 2 on display. Not crazy about the looks but there was a blue Grand Sport with white stripes, like the 96 GS that was sharp. I'd really like the power train in my Cayman.:D:D

sugarwood 07-25-2020 07:10 PM

Speaking of obsolete fools, few are worse than Corvette owners. Seems like the majority of C7 and earlier owners hate the C8, just because it's new and different, and demonstrably superior in nearly every way (and actually costs less!). Thousands of Grandpa Simpsons collectively shaking their fists at clouds.

https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/the-c8-corvette-is-not-without-flaws/

There is some seriously impressive technology in the C8. Funny to see the old fools whining about how they don't trust the "electronic brake pedal." It's not electronic, there's a goddamn metal rod connected directly to the master cylinder, as you can see in the video. It also has an "electronic" booster and pressure monitoring. Smart.

Nothing wrong with a good, simple pushrod V8.
No manual transmission, which is sad, but I can understand why they did it.

LEAKYSEALS951 07-25-2020 07:24 PM

My uncle was a huge lingenfelter fan.

And he was as a huge Zora Duntov fan.

Suga'zzz-

If your neighbor is a poser, let's call him out.
List his name here, but I need specifics of who to call out.
Not a generalization.

Help me here...

stomachmonkey 07-25-2020 07:48 PM

Neighbor down the street got one last month.

Comes across as a poor mans Lambo or McLaren.

Not a bad looking car but it does not look like a Vette.

Not sure it knows what it wants to be.

93097004xx 07-26-2020 04:07 AM

Oh WOW the new CORVETTE..
 
Pretty sure the Corvettes suspension technology is FAR more advanced than anything found on the current Ferrari or Lambo..

After all they have been buying that technology from GM for something like 20 years..

I don’t think this can be dismissed as a “Poor mans ANYTHING” or a “Mexican Ferrari” most of these are spec’d out to the $120,000 range and the buyers are well heeled and well informed.

This new corvette truly is a GAME CHANGER.

All GM needs to do is develop a V10 possibly for both the vett, F1 use and this would be a hypercar.

(Edit) F1 is currently F’d up with the green/ politically correct safety crowd) Possible Indy car series?

I honestly stopped watching the day they banned the grid girls..

I believe the chassis/suspension technology is right there with hyper car technology.

GM in the coming years will probably..

Develop a V10

Full carbon fiber chassis, suspension

I’m guessing we will see this on the Z06 or ZR1 models.

What a exciting time for all the corvette fans across the globe!

Yes porsche we want something similar to this.. Oh wait.. You’re too busy pursuing Tesla’s business model..

pavulon 07-26-2020 05:26 AM

Current thinking has turbocharged flat-plane V8s for C8 Z06 and ZR1.

GH85Carrera 07-26-2020 05:27 AM

As an American, I am happy to see the Vette finally as a world class car. The new model is a really fast car, and if the interior is finally top quality, and for the price, it is a potent combination.

Porsche keeps moving the engine further forward. Ferrari makes mid and front engines cars. The new Ferrari 812 Superfast is a pretty amazing car. To run 10 second 1/4 mile times right from the dealership is amazing for a front engine car. The price is breathtaking as well at $330,000.

The Vette for the money has been the best bang for the buck for a long time.

They will sell more Vettes will sell well. Over 6,000 so far in 2020. Almost 18,000 last year.

javadog 07-26-2020 05:37 AM

I can live with most of the car but the ass end is a deal killer for me. That’s the trouble with most Corvettes, I can live with 90% of the car but there’s always something about it that I can’t stand.

They’ve been fast and great value for money for decades, I just wish they could build a complete car for once.

onewhippedpuppy 07-26-2020 05:41 AM

The performance for the money is off the charts. I’m reserving an opinion on styling until I see one in person. I never really warmed to the C7, I thought the ZR1 and Z06 looked mean but definitely not pretty.

JackDidley 07-26-2020 05:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 10961667)
The performance for the money is off the charts. I’m reserving an opinion on styling until I see one in person. I never really warmed to the C7, I thought the ZR1 and Z06 looked mean but definitely not pretty.

Too many sharp edges and lines for me. I think it would look ok in black so they would blend in.

Mike Andrew 07-26-2020 06:37 AM

Have seen a couple out and about in the past several weeks.
Caught one coming at me and thought it looked pretty good. As I glanced sideways and then in my side mirror, whole different take. Rear third of the car, to my taste, is fugly. Seems like they could have done a better job blending all of the lines. Almost like they ran out of design time and had to get into production. (Crossfire has similar issue with the rear end being an afterthought)
But, everything I have read says that the performance is incredible and the price is right. So. kudos to GM. Now, if Porsche would get serious.....

Zeke 07-26-2020 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javadog (Post 10961665)
I can live with most of the car but the ass end is a deal killer for me. That’s the trouble with most Corvettes, I can live with 90% of the car but there’s always something about it that I can’t stand.

They’ve been fast and great value for money for decades, I just wish they could build a complete car for once.

For you they maybe never will. One can pick apart just about anything. Take it or leave it as a package. I've never seen a refrigerator that I have no complaints about.

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I've always wondered (and tried to practice at times) what life with cars would be if you couldn't see much of the exterior, only the interior and the feel of the car while driving.

I've owned a lot of cars just like most of you and I've bought and sold them for a variety of reasons. But I don't remember ever thinking of how a car fit me strictly as a driver in the seat and not anything about how it struck me while walking around it.

IDK where to place that kind of thought. Is that the Zen of auto ownership?

As close as I have gotten to this relationship with a car, and certainly as only a fantasy, is to imagine driving a V-12 something, particularly an older Ferrari. There has to be a zone where the seat, wheel and controls, along with the feel of the road, are the primary inputs with no regard for the exterior that encases your command at the helm.

IOW, like a real life simulator. You see the other objects as they are, but you are unaware of what your ride looks like or what its appeal is to others.

The ideal attitude.

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ted 07-26-2020 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10961805)
IDK where to place that kind of thought. Is that the Zen of auto ownership?

As close as I have gotten to this relationship with a car, and certainly as only a fantasy, is to imagine driving a V-12 something, particularly an older Ferrari. There has to be a zone where the seat, wheel and controls, along with the feel of the road, are the primary inputs with no regard for the exterior that encases your command at the helm.

My Zen is no abs, no computers, car suspension and power train tuned by me to my desires.
Everything completely mechanical and driver dependent.

There is no Zen for me when at the limit the nannies start to soften the acceleration, control the braking or slow the corner speeds.
Any computer aided intrusion eliminates any chance of Zen.

How can you get to automotive Zen with a computer that manipulates each wheel independently, where ABS, traction control and stability control are all computer controlled.

C8 does everything better.
My old C5Z still looks great too.

javadog 07-26-2020 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10961805)
For you they maybe never will. One can pick apart just about anything. Take it or leave it as a package. I've never seen a refrigerator that I have no complaints about.

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I've always wondered (and tried to practice at times) what life with cars would be if you couldn't see much of the exterior, only the interior and the feel of the car while driving.

I've owned a lot of cars just like most of you and I've bought and sold them for a variety of reasons. But I don't remember ever thinking of how a car fit me strictly as a driver in the seat and not anything about how it struck me while walking around it.

IDK where to place that kind of thought. Is that the Zen of auto ownership?

As close as I have gotten to this relationship with a car, and certainly as only a fantasy, is to imagine driving a V-12 something, particularly an older Ferrari. There has to be a zone where the seat, wheel and controls, along with the feel of the road, are the primary inputs with no regard for the exterior that encases your command at the helm.

IOW, like a real life simulator. You see the other objects as they are, but you are unaware of what your ride looks like or what its appeal is to others.

The ideal attitude.

I've owned a few cars that I haven't had any complaints about. So, it's possible...

I guess I prefer the simplicity of German and Italian design. I'm after clean lines, not endless, unrelated details. I guess the Corvette wouldn't ever suit me. It's like they have to be different, just to be different. I wouldn't be surprised if several different people had responsibilities for part of the car, each.

It's not that I find all American design to be awful. There are several cars I'd consider owning. The current Mustang is one example.

I find though, that when I don't like one aspect of the current Corvette design, it's a commonly expressed opinion.

Which Vette cornered well but rode like a lumber truck?
Which Vette was pretty good but had a cheap, plasticky interior?
Which Vette was too busy and too angular on the outside?
Which Vette has a horrible ass end?
Etc.

Anybody that has thought about these cars for the last 30 years could answer each of those questions.

Embraer 07-26-2020 08:59 AM

I've seen them in person....they're great looking; much better than in photos. I'm just not a corvette guy. Absolutely no denying what a car it is. Especially at the price point.

I will say that at my last time in Le Mans in 2016...the Corvette was a track favorite. Nothing on the track sounded like the brutal smashing hammer sound of the V8 as it went by. People were going crazy for it. I camped in the yellow lot, by the Porsche curves, and all of my camping neighbors couldn't stop talking about it.

1990C4S 07-26-2020 09:03 AM

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Chocaholic 07-26-2020 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10961460)
Speaking of obsolete fools, few are worse than Corvette owners. Seems like the majority of C7 and earlier owners hate the C8, just because it's new and different, and demonstrably superior in nearly every way (and actually costs less!). Thousands of Grandpa Simpsons collectively shaking their fists at clouds.

https://www.hagerty.com/media/news/the-c8-corvette-is-not-without-flaws/

There is some seriously impressive technology in the C8. Funny to see the old fools whining about how they don't trust the "electronic brake pedal." It's not electronic, there's a goddamn metal rod connected directly to the master cylinder, as you can see in the video. It also has an "electronic" booster and pressure monitoring. Smart.

Nothing wrong with a good, simple pushrod V8.
No manual transmission, which is sad, but I can understand why they did it.

Sounds exactly like Porsche guys when the water cooled 911 came out.

pavulon 07-26-2020 09:28 AM

I like these. Fast, sound wonderful, easy on the eyes, reliable, kicked ass in racing...

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sugarwood 07-26-2020 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 10961860)
Sounds exactly like Porsche guys when the water cooled 911 came out.

Would not surprise me.
Most are stuck in the past.

RANDY P 07-26-2020 11:08 AM

I don't buy cars to bench race or for instagram, I buy to drive. Modern cars are too much for the street to be used anyhow-

As long as I'm having fun with it that's what matters, whether it's taking it apart or ripping around on the roads I must be involved.

rjp

RWebb 07-26-2020 12:22 PM

I'm with Java and the others who hate the overly aggro looks.

I'm with Zeke and those who say think of the complete car, and the super tech they have rolled into not many bucks.

The Cayman is so pretty you think the Italians designed it.

HardDrive 07-26-2020 12:25 PM

You guys are nuts. I think that car looks absolutely ferocious.

RANDY P 07-26-2020 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 10962079)
You guys are nuts. I think that car looks absolutely ferocious.

Some ancient silver-hair in town bought one it that ghastly baby blue. I pulled up behind him.

It's DEFINITELY photogenic.

rjp

svandamme 07-26-2020 12:40 PM

uggo interior
uggo exterior


I don't care if it goes like stink cause I don't wanna be seen in one..or have to bother looking at that uggo dash

RWebb 07-26-2020 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 10962079)
You guys are nuts. I think that car looks absolutely ferocious.

so did Velociraptors


but they are extinct - and now the fearsome predators on this planet are all cute and cuddly with good family values

Porsche-O-Phile 07-26-2020 05:54 PM

Amazing features and specs but I’m in the “sick-to-death-of-angry-looking-cars” camp. For crying out loud... one of the things I love about my old 911 is it DOESN'T look mean or angry or aggressive. It looks happy, smiling, maybe even a bit innocent. And then you drive it and... wow!

I guess it’s just a reflection on what I see as one little example of our society hurtling towards idiocracy - everyone needs to be more “Camacho” macho than the next. Bigger, badder, etc. I don’t get impressed by such things.

They could make the car LOOK way more elegant and still plenty fast but... they’re building them to sell and unfortunately lots of people want their chest-thumping “I’m better’n you” attitude on public display so... that’s what’ll sell. I get it but still don’t care for it.

I certainly wouldn’t turn one down. For under $90k that’s a heck of a lot of car and GM deserves to be proud of what they’ve done overall.

McLovin 07-26-2020 06:07 PM

I saw one at a car show.
It had horrible huge blingy aftermarket wheels, which didn’t help.
It was, to me, “ok.”
Certainly not horrible or offensive.
But largely just a derivative of things that have already been done over and over by foreign cars.
Looks wise, breaks no new ground and has no connection to past Corvettes, or really, American styling.
The glass engine lid and the engine look nice.
If it’s really around $60-65k, though, seems like a heck of a car (for someone into a car like that, it’s definitely not for me).

HardDrive 07-26-2020 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10962134)
so did Velociraptors


but they are extinct - and now the fearsome predators on this planet are all cute and cuddly with good family values

Look, this took a really odd turn...I'm just going to back away slowly....

RWebb 07-26-2020 09:14 PM

wolves... not to mention others like bears, African lions, wolverines, and humans

definitely don't turn your back on any of them


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