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			We have large cars in this country but how about those original Mini Coopers, Honda 600s, Bugs or those lil' Fiats?  The English aren't exactly small people.  How the heck did they manage to get in it?  I have seen old pictures of people actual ride in the back looking pretty normal in England.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
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			The Mini in particular was brilliantly packaged,unlike US cars which were stupid large for no reason other than to appeal to American vanity.  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			I currently have two Smart ForFours from 2006 that have more rear leg room than S type MBs, but they are only 3752mm overall length. My American brother in law was staggered that four people would not only fit into but also travel 200 miles reasonably comfortably in my daughter's 2001 Fiat Punto. 
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			All cars have gotten bigger over time = Safety and necessity. Even a Morgan has gotten bigger (wider) compared to the original car. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			When I was 20 something I owned a Fiat 500. One time I was driving with my father and brother in the car. It was OK but my dad was sitting sideways on the rear seat with his head up against the roof. (the back seat had no seat belts) Thinking back, Imagine what would have happened if we were involved in an accident!  
		
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			I just think they are only big in North America but smallish elsewhere around the world.  I rode in many smaller passenger vans in China (China made) last summer.  First I saw it from curb at the airport as it drove it and I thought, oh my, this thing is squished (narrow) and how our luggage will fit in it with 6 people (guide and driver included)?  Luggages was a challenge because we had three week worth but we were gone for 7 weeks (thank goodness for laundry service on the cruise ship down the Yangtze).  To my surprise, there was plenty or room in there.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 I can't imagent riding in the back in the dead of summer without AC, knees up to my chest with another person back there. My feet will be caught under the front seat or has to be turned. Pulling cramps for sure and unable to move to stretch. I am not claustrophobic but getting there just thinking about it.  | 
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			Is that a Ford Falcon? ^^^^^
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			And the Super Roo sticker from the Ford XW Falcon GT-HO Phase II!  
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
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			The red car on the right is the smallest car I've ever driven, and I fit in it just fine (I was 6'2" then).  It was one of my parents cars when they lived in Spain.  Seat 850, I think.  850cc motor with a top speed as tested by yours truly of 110kph.  From inside I could easily reach across and roll up/down the passengers window.  From outside the car, I could reach over the roof and tap the window on the opposite side. 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
			 
		
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			Smallest I have ever driven was my sisters Fiat 850 Spider.   I could somehow wedge by 6'4" frame into the drivers seat.  It was fun.
		 
		
	
		
	
			
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 They are rare. Google says around 2000 made in total. (Australian Ford Falcon GTHO Phase III) and sell well over half a million AUD (quick googling only) 351 Cleveland - 380 hp but factory said 300 hp. Those are probably gross HP numbers. Even at circa 250 net hp it would have been very fast given size. Here's the Chevelle:  
		
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