2013 Cayenne GTS

[RAM]

Hello all.

I'm looking at a 2103 Cayenne GTS with 80K miles. Are there any thoughts to this potential purchase? Issues I should consider?

Any help would be appreciated.

[speeder]

Originally Posted by RAM

Hello all.

I'm looking at a 2103 Cayenne GTS

Any photos? That would be some spy shot.

Seriously, it's a great driving rig that is out of warranty and will cost bucks to own. If you're ok w that, you will love it.

[Nostril Cheese]

Really fun to drive. Eats rear tires.

[matthewb0051]

Pick up Excellence magazine annual Buyer's Guide. They usually do a good review of all models with Pros / Cons.

You can also look up 5th Gear TV show. They do some very good reviews on buying older models as a substitute for a new car that they are also reviewing.

If its anything like my Land Rover LR4 / Disco 4 it will eat tires about every 2 years

[masraum]

You'll probably get more information here eventually. THere's a ton of love for Cayennes on the board. I've been looking at SUVs and many folks have or have had them, mostly with nothing but good luck.

I'd have bought one, but the missus wanted something with very low miles which increases the cost quite a bit.

[Jeff Alton]

The 958 like you are looking at can be quite reliable. Service the transfer case every year. Keep up on other maintenance. We see quite a few of this gen in the shop, not a lot of repairing, but plenty of maintenance....

We have similar milage on our Turbo now and it has been rock solid.

[Embraer]

I have an '08 GTS with 119K miles on it. I bought it with 84K miles, 3.5 years ago. Hasn't been too bad to own. I don't even really drive it....the girlfriend uses it when the weather isn't good enough for her Boxster.

Cardan Shaft bushing went bad at 104K miles (first time on this thing...that seems to have lasted longer than most)….I did the "Jimmy Fix" on it, and it surprisingly has worked just fine.

I replaced the thermostat, which involves removing the intake manifold, replacing every gasket, etc. Not an expensive job.....just a messy, pain of a job.

My most expensive fix: One of my Xenon headlight control units went bad, due to water intrusion. I replaced the pair, since mine were specific with the adaptive headlights. You have to take it to a dealer for reprogramming. Suncoast Porsche had the cheapest prices on the control units. I still believe it was about a grand for the two units, plus an hour of labor for the local Porsche dealer to reprogram them. I kept the "good" used unit as a back up.

[onewhippedpuppy]

If you need an SUV they are fantastic, I had a 2009 GTS that was the best SUV I have driven. It’s a huge step up from the S model that I find to be very average. If I actually needed the functionality of an SUV I would likely have one, but fortunately I can get away with a sports sedan.

[RAM]

UPDATE:

So after some due diligence on my part and some help from the local Porsche dealership I decided to let this one pass. Apparently it has traded in another, non-Porsche dealership and they had taken the GTS to the Porsche dealership for a check engine light. The fix was a loose gas cap based on the fault but the check engine light came back after they left. The dealer selling the GTS said that the car had a EVAP issue and that they would sell in auction. I thought I would tackle the job if they came off the price a bit but they didn't want to move on the price.

All that said, I'm still in my X5. Oh well, I tried and I will keep looking. I really want to get into a Cayenne of some variant.

Thank you all for all the responses.

[Jeff Alton]

Likely needed a purge valve, a low cost part and easy fix..... Too bad the Porsche Dealership didn't do any real diagnostics (though likely charged for it) and called replacement of a part that was not at fault....

[WPOZZZ]

Originally Posted by RAM

UPDATE:

So after some due diligence on my part and some help from the local Porsche dealership I decided to let this one pass. Apparently it has traded in another, non-Porsche dealership and they had taken the GTS to the Porsche dealership for a check engine light. The fix was a loose gas cap based on the fault but the check engine light came back after they left. The dealer selling the GTS said that the car had a EVAP issue and that they would sell in auction. I thought I would tackle the job if they came off the price a bit but they didn't want to move on the price.

All that said, I'm still in my X5. Oh well, I tried and I will keep looking. I really want to get into a Cayenne of some variant.

Thank you all for all the responses.

That's what I don't get. Dealers will send a car to auction rather than selling it to a customer.

[tdw28210]

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ

That's what I don't get. Dealers will send a car to auction rather than selling it to a customer.

Speaking of Cayenne auctions, apparently the '15-'16 Cayenne diesels bottomed out in price back in March/April and have become "hot" cars as of late. As of the beginning of this month there were only18 CD's available nationwide at Manheim and other auctions. A couple interesting quotes from threads on the other Porsche forums:

"The diesels I had posted pics of were all diesels available from manheim, auction and OVE. There aren’t many out there. Most dealers keep them to sell because they are desirable, and typically when they are put through auction they are going through for a reason.
We have had a tough past few months with buying and sales. Cars are selling at auction, adesa and manheim for almost nada clean retail and they aren’t in good shape. Cars that are in good shape with low miles that are desirable are selling for over value. We have limited ability to get into some auction sites as well so we are buying almost blind based on a few pics, unable to see in person first like we used to be able to do.
We bought three cars last week, all looked okay in pics they had, got there to pick up and didn’t even take one out of the auction site, just going right back through this week because of how bad of shape it was in and not disclosed. "


"I talked to Porsche Dealership that I have a good relationship with.
I asked them about demand and availability of 2015-2016 diesels.
"They are gone before we put them on the floor,'' he said.
"Our sales people have a list of clients that want one. But current diesels owners are not
giving them up. They are holding onto them. Current owners really love them."

[David]

Rennlist seems to have the most active Cayenne forum these days.

My 2011 turbo has been pretty reliable but there are the maintenance costs and mine’s about due for another high pressure fuel pump.

My recommendation is to buy a CPO Cayenne from a Porsche dealer. Mine had a fueling issue when I bought it and if I had to pay repair costs it would have been substantial since Porsche didn’t solve the problem until the 3rd repair. They ended up replacing the high and low pressure fuel pumps and the fuel control board.

[Jeff Alton]

David, that is a bit odd. We are yet to replace one of those pumps. How many miles on that car? I wonder if the dealer was tossing parts at it instead of actually diagnosing the core issue?

[stealthn]

For future reference make sure the transfer case has been replaced, I believe it’s covered now but all the original ones go.