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GH85Carrera · GH85Carrera's Garage

Thanks Capt. That is interesting. I have always loved the Porsche engineers that designed the 911 dry sump oil system when I am on the track puttering around in my slug slow old 85 911. I never give oil pressure a thought and check the gauge only on occasion. I remember the days of autocross and track days in my 914 and seeing the oil pressure light pop on in long corners.

No doubt Mercedes will have a lot of really smart people working on a solution. From what I gathered from the FP 1 & 2 the G- meters in the cars are calibrated for lateral movement and not for vertical moment. I just wonder how much vertical G they feel on those carousel - roller coaster corners. Do they all walk around with 60 pound weights on their helmets to strengthen their neck muscles? It must be brutal.

Captain Ahab Jr · Captain Ahab Jr's Garage

Glen, the oil in a tank with the engine revving looks like the head of a pint of Guinness, advanced computational fluid dynamic 3D analysis using CAD data takes some of the guess work out but not all

All cars will record X (longitudinal), Y (lateral) and Z (vertical) loads, from memory 10G is used when calculating components/structures for bump ie Z loads and 6G for cornering ie Y loads

I'm no Rain Man so could well be wrong. I'll ask a stress engineer friend and confirm back if you're interested

Drivers do a lot of resistance strength work for building neck muscles

Reg · 09-04-2021, 04:48 PM

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Kimi tested positive for COVID so Kubica will race in his place

This is a shame. Kimi loses out of a final race at Spa, now this. Good for Kubica I suppose.

WPOZZZ · 09-04-2021, 06:42 PM

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This is a shame. Kimi loses out of a final race at Spa, now this. Good for Kubica I suppose.

Kimi is probably self medicating. Alcohol, does kill germs.

rfuerst911sc · 09-05-2021, 07:00 AM

Interesting race and congratulations to the winner . Good drive be Checo starting from the pits to getting points . Gasly another solid performance . If I was Bottas I would have held the throttle down !!!

Deschodt · 09-05-2021, 09:10 AM

This is why we love F1... What a track, giving a great impression of speed. The passes on the outside, the incredible chess game of 2 mercedes vs one red bull... Alonso nipping Sainz right at the end, Checo doing his best... Lovely... Too bad we didn;t ge ta Spa, but Zandvoort is one of my new favorites !

Noah930 · Noah930's Garage

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Interesting race and congratulations to the winner . Good drive be Checo starting from the pits to getting points . Gasly another solid performance . If I was Bottas I would have held the throttle down !!!

Agree with all the above, except for that last point. Not worth the internal friction, IMO. Just one point for an inconsequential statistic. But if it were for a race win, I'd agree.

Noah930 · Noah930's Garage

I also like Jensen Button and Nico Rosberg as color commentators. They bring great insight, and Nico has the guts to ask some difficult questions in the interviews.

GH85Carrera · GH85Carrera's Garage

It is a good day to own a bar in Holland. There will be a lot of partying and drinking in Holland.

And a real good day for Heineken sales.

rfuerst911sc · 09-05-2021, 09:40 AM

My comment about Bottas was coming from the standpoint he only has a few races left with Mercedes IF the rumors are true . In that scenario screw team orders and push yourself the most you can . There are some that doubt that Bottas has the heart of a champion , I would say balls to the walls for the final races with the team . Just my opinion 😁

matthewb0051 · matthewb0051's Garage

I 100% believe Bottas should have gone for fastest lap. His post race comments were fairly fictitious. He was going for it until James got on radio. He even asked if that was the purpose of the pit stop. If he is going to Alfa then do it. The team still gets the point and it's the team points that pay out.

The circuit was great and the Orange was incredible. The only thing I would change is adding length to the circuit.

Ditto on Rossberg. He didn't hold back with Toto and seemed to make him uncomfortable.

vmb · 09-05-2021, 05:05 PM

Talk about not holding back! Did I hear correctly that Rosberg, when at Williams, would just "go to the toilet" in the car? The Capt. talked about the weight of oil a few posts above, not only is this kinda gross but also would be a disadvantage for several laps (at least until the urine evaporated!)

WPOZZZ · 09-05-2021, 06:42 PM

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Talk about not holding back! Did I hear correctly that Rosberg, when at Williams, would just "go to the toilet" in the car? The Capt. talked about the weight of oil a few posts above, not only is this kinda gross but also would be a disadvantage for several laps (at least until the urine evaporated!)

I heard that, too! Nico, TMI!

herr_oberst · 09-05-2021, 07:21 PM

C'mon ladies. It's not that big a deal.

https://flowracers.com/blog/do-f1-drivers-pee-during-races/

WPOZZZ · 09-05-2021, 08:26 PM

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C'mon ladies. It's not that big a deal.

https://flowracers.com/blog/do-f1-drivers-pee-during-races/

Last weekend Ham was left scarred by the sight of a bomb in the toilet. Interestingly, Sky pointed out the Dutch media was using the facilities before Ham. This was during the Red Flag, so no one knew about the condition of the toilet. lol

chapo · 09-05-2021, 08:28 PM

So Mercedes figures by the public watching Hamilton win races with team orders that makes the public want to buy their vehicles?

rfuerst911sc · 09-06-2021, 07:19 AM

The next domino in silly season has fallen .

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/valtteri-bottas-leave-mercedes-f1-123028266.html

Tervuren · Tervuren's Garage

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The Capt. talked about the weight of oil a few posts above, not only is this kinda gross but also would be a disadvantage for several laps (at least until the urine evaporated!)

That weight was inside the body and the car was having to move it to begin with.
It lowers the CG to let it out; advantage.
And the work out one gets in a long race will have a driver already wet from sweat.
In long stint endurance racing just letting it out is better.
Especially if you get in a crash, think of all that fluid trying to force its mass in the directio of original momentum.

yellowperil · 09-06-2021, 10:16 AM

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So Mercedes figures by the public watching Hamilton win races with team orders that makes the public want to buy their vehicles?

Hamilton didn't win many races on team orders, in my opinion. He earned an awful of them, again in my opinion.

yellowperil · 10:25 AM

I hope he gains a lot of new fans and gets a car worthy of his talents and maybe a win or two. It's hard not to like a guy like Bottas, "long suffering" as he was at Mercedes.