Was supposed to get my second dose yesterday. Instead, I seem to now have shingles. Good times.

Which is why we all need to keep up all of our vaccinations!

Oh man, that sucks! I remember my dad having that. Didn't look like any fun at all.

sorry to hear that..
heard other's tell me it's very painful..
wishing you a quick healing..

Rika

Thanks all. I'm about a week into symptoms and still no rash (a 'thing' I was unaware of but get lots of time to research when too uncomfortable to sleep). So far, the least fun part is being initially diagnosed with epididymitis and put on an antibiotic not supposed to be taken with NSAIDs--the first line of pain control for shingles. I'm sure all can extrapolate to the experience from there.

In Oklahoma everyone has to have their own appointment, no provision for couples. Since my wife and I are officially in the geezer age group, we are each eligible to schedule an appointment. We each had to register on the web page that the state set up, and it did indeed send out an email a few hours later that we can then try to get an appointment. There are no appointments anywhere close to us. The demand is very high.

So Mrs. Carrera has been watching for a spot to open up. She came hustling in my office and we had to both go online to the same location and request the same appointment time and do a countdown and GO. She used her iPad, I was on this computer. We managed to get in at a location 95 miles away and for the same 15 minute window. So at least we can do one trip for this round for the two of us.

The TV news was saying the site had tons of hits on the first day and has been swamped ever since. The amazing part is it has not crashed, and it withstands the demand.

So we get to have a nice drive along I-40 to Weatherford to get our shots 200 mile round trip. We will eat at a R-66 themed restaurant near Weatherford.

We got our two part shingles shots in 2020. And the "high strength" flu shot a few months ago.

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The lobby of Lucille's Roadhouse. ^^^

Yep. All openings in Oklahoma fill up within a few hours.

Glad you got in.

Do they test before administering the vaccine? If not, aren't doses given to positive cases wasted?

No test required.

I can't imagine that testing for Covid before administering is at all feasible.

The additional cost, logistics, delays incurred to test and get results, rather then just vaccinating would be mind boggling.


This vaccination program is really about getting as much and as wide as possible coverage, Think of it as a 10x10 mile target area, 1 square yard grid

And you want to hit 70% of the targets, and of those maybe 5% would already have been hit.


Either carpet bomb the entire 10x10 grid
or recce each square first and precision bomb each one that hasn't been bombed yet as proven by that recce

Ask yourself : What would Curtis Le May do

Oh, I see... everyone but you.

Let me guess... YOU wear a mask! :rolleyes:


What I find interesting is how the seasonal flu disappeared. Yet that Covid thing keeps on going even though everyone is wearing masks. It makes one wonder, does this CV go right past those puny masks? nah.... that can't be. Everybody knows...

There is a vaccine for the flu. When you take into account the impact of the vaccine it has an R around 1.3. It doesn't take much social distancing or masking to drop it below an R1 which stops spread in it's tracks.

Covid if far more infectious and there has been no vaccine. Distancing and masking does not necessarily get the R below 1. It continues to spread.

I wear a mask because i have to by law.

I don't believe the masks are what make the difference..

avoiding crowds of people is what makes the difference.

Not going on air travel or bus or train and sitting in an aluminum tube for hours with air circulation..
Working from home
Not going to pubs
Not holding big gatherings (marriages, funerals, Bdays, etc etc)
Not visiting old people if you have a cold that might be more then just a cold to them

Using Common Sense.

But if there's Covid has proven, beyond a doubt, that there are to many stupid and selfish people. Those worry me much more then Covid.

ignorant, sure. But selfish? C'mon... it's as if there is a competition to see who can be the MOST Covid righteous of all. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/suppo...leys/pukey.gif (makes me want to shove a finger down my throat to gag out all the evil covid that must be in my body, because I care more than you stupid selfish people do.) :D

I have to say, this annoys a bit. The US paid for the production of vaccines in parallel with trails (not knowing if these would prove out.) --lots of risk and expense. And yet the middle east is better covered? hmmmmm...

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Pavulon's new avatar? ^

When people go abroad, on vacation, and blatantly say they won't be getting their mandatory test because if positive it means they have to keep their kids at home.

Or if a woman i know shows up in the office, coughing.. and says , my best friend got tested positive for covid last weekend.. I hope I didn't catch it when i visited her at her house.

Or an elderly lady positive, but not sick..
Doesn't tell her house cleaner that she has it, and refuses to wear a mask

The list of example I have first hand knowledge of in my own area.. its endless
That's Stupidity and Selfishness.

If you can't understand that, well... badum tss.

That they are bettered covered has less to do with access to the vaccine then ability to roll it out efficiently.


Israel clearly has their chit together, they are small, and they have excellent healthcare and being in a constant state of conflict have good healthcare, disaster control and logistics in place

UAE and Bahrain are city states...
Very modern infrastructure, easy logistics

smaller countries should have an advantage if they have their chit together.. Clearly Belgian Government as usual is ineffient. We have 4 or 5 (i lost count) ministers of Health, we have to many politicians and as usual they aren't worth chit.

Please note, some of those countries, like the UAE, are using the SinoVaccine, which the data now shows is barely 50% effective.

Typical island911 BS posts.
He only has one speed and it runs against what everyone else is doing. :rolleyes:

Honolulu is having mass vax for those 75+ on the next two Mondays. They are taking appts, but I think I will wait and see how next Monday's mass vax goes before subjecting my mother to that.

On another island, there has been a brouhaha with visitors getting the vax. Apparently if you register with the CDC, you can get the vax anywhere you want to. At least we aren't wasting the vax.

I was just told that I can receive the vaccine because my wife works at the hospital. I have mixed feelings about this because it feels like I'm jumping the line. My parents haven't even received the vaccine yet. I told my wife I wouldn't feel right knowing there are high risk folks out there who really need the vaccine.

Getting mine on Sat 1/16, very excited. It was very easy to register and get an appointment in NYC

I understand. You are not jumping the line if you are included in a current group. That is up to you. Any additional shot in an arm is a shot in the right direction.

I know what you're saying. I'm gonna schedule but I have a REALLY hard time feeling right about this.

That is because you are a good peep. Think about others as much as you think about yourself.

I don't think at any point anybody is jumping any lines.
We need to get as much coverage as possible, and if you ask me the active/mobile population should be first because simply put, they are the engine of virus spread.

And of that active/mobile population anybody in any kind of care or linked to care should be vaccinated first.

Now that's your wife.. But let's say she's vaccinated.. that means she can't carry it.
But you still can.. There's probably a minor risk that you could end up infected and through some kind of second hand contact. anyway, debatable..
But if getting you vaccinated helps put that risk to bed, then no worries.. you are still active/mobile and part of the virus spread motor.. so your vaccination still helps.

every vaccinated person is one less connection through which it can spread.
And it spreading works exponentially as there are more connections.
So each connection take out, reduces to the reverse degree. till at some point it has nothing to jump to. and dies out.

After being told this morning about being able to get the vaccine, a lot of things went through my mind. First an uncomfortable feeling about getting the vaccine before others who really need it. Then the thought that back in March my wife was considered "non essential" but today she's so essential that even I should get the vaccine. That thought kind of made me a bit mad.

I get what you're saying about each vaccinated person being one less connection. But like I said, I'm pretty low risk for getting the virus because I work at home. I have very little contact with others and when I do have contact, I wear a mask and make sure to practice social distancing when I'm out. Am I perfect at it? Nope but still I'm pretty low risk. I think the vaccine I'm getting would be better served elsewhere... but I'm going to get it.

I'm scheduled for Monday and my second dose is already scheduled for February.

Don't worry about it, your one less vector for the virus to travel too.
and one less that can end up in the hospital with Covid.

it's a good thing either way

Even vaccinated people can carry the virus and get sick. Chances are low but not zero. Masks will still be required for many more months.

I do agree, if you can get the shot, get it. Overall, the more vaccines received, the better for the community, country and the world.

So... you show concern for the efficacy of the vaccine, yet no concern for the efficacy of masks - those leaky masks are magic, eh? ..but the vaccine is flawed?

SMH

BTW, do know that the vaccine has demonstrated efficacy against Covid.

Masks have ZERO demonstrated efficacy against Covid. In fact masks seem to give people a false sense of security, where they move less cautiously into Covid-potential situations.

Masks were never going to be the end game only a means to an end. Why is that difficult for anyone older than 10 to understand?

Clearly you are having a tough time following...

Is English your second language?

I'm not sure I agree with your original statement.

People who have the vaccine that are exposed to the virus do indeed take it up, and the antibodies will prevent the virus from developing. But that does not mean a person who cannot contract the virus will become a carrier. You are not creating more virus in your cells. We do not become "Typhoid Mary's".

If someone coughs in your face, and then you immediately cough on someone else, you MIGHT spread the virus. But most likely not. And anything in your system will be killed by the antibodies.

In the early days, it was thought the virus spread by touch. Then it was coughing. Those may work, but they are small vectors. The real vector is aerosolized particles caused from speaking or singing.

An immunized person (Natural or vaccine) is not going to transmit via aerosolized particles

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lame, again.