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aigel 02-22-2022 10:17 PM

The whole thing above sounds like gambling. Not like a currency. Guy being upset he got out too early. And guy unhappy he didn't bet, I mean "invest". IDK about you, but I can't start gambling like this with any of my money. It is way too stressful and there is zero influence I have on the outcome.

I don't even go there "could have should have", but what about the people that bought it at 60+k? Nobody ever talks about those. Are they going to hold it? What a crock.

It also looks like the "currency" isn't really holding up like a safe haven. Gold is up up up, crypto is down down down. I always have to chuckle seeing the golden bit-coin renderings in articles mentioning bitcoin. Interesting world we live in.

svandamme 02-22-2022 10:30 PM

Well if they bought at 60k + you can only hope they had the smarts to eat their loss at 59500.

It's like the L&H voice tech scandal in Ypres, they were going to build flanders speech valley and be like the sillicone valley of europe.
booming biz, people jumping to invest.
then suddenly KPMG audit turns out to be a bust
the entire thing imploded and everybody and their grandmother yelling they got duped and lost their savings.

Duh.. I knew damn well what a hype it was when it happened.
And I know plenty of people locally that got VERY rich off L&H when it took off, and then they sold to the everybody and their grannies.
Obviously the everybody and grannies bought in at 60, and the early rich investors got richer of them.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB976143929804554337

hell some local politician was in charge of a union tax investment scheme , told everybody to jump in on that.
blue collar people.. banking their entire retirement on it.They called it a co-op.
he later became prime minister.. turned out as scumbag as I already knew him to be before all of it..
ran off for high level OESO and IDEA chairman ship.. he's a career scumbag now..
https://www.reddit.com/r/belgium/comments/4dauws/can_anyone_explain_to_me_why_arco_is_such_a_big/

the blue collars, well they'll have to be a bit more frugal in retirement now.. some very, cause some dumbasses borrowed for it.
Bit like how some borrow to get in on the crypto.
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/loans/personal-loans/what-is-a-crypto-loan

Greeeeeeeeed

RobFrost 02-22-2022 11:27 PM

A lot of people seem to have forgotten that wealth is the work you've done, whose output you haven't yet consumed. Remember that and keep on putting more in to society than you take out and soon you have some wealth accumulated.

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Jims5543 02-23-2022 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by aigel (Post 11615320)
The whole thing above sounds like gambling. Not like a currency. Guy being upset he got out too early. And guy unhappy he didn't bet, I mean "invest". IDK about you, but I can't start gambling like this with any of my money. It is way too stressful and there is zero influence I have on the outcome.

I don't even go there "could have should have", but what about the people that bought it at 60+k? Nobody ever talks about those. Are they going to hold it? What a crock.

It also looks like the "currency" isn't really holding up like a safe haven. Gold is up up up, crypto is down down down. I always have to chuckle seeing the golden bit-coin renderings in articles mentioning bitcoin. Interesting world we live in.

If someone bought at 60K I would hope they are holding for the long game.

Imagine buying a stock 10 years ago at pennies per share and it shooting up to 60K. Then dropping back down to 40K, If you purchased a 60K would you dump it?

I diversified my investments greatly. My hedge against this fake stock market is Gold / Silver and Crypto.

What other hedge is there? Cash? Cash is losing its buying power ever month that goes by.

I have a relatively small amount in Crypto compared to my investment accounts and my G&S stores.

If I had to put a percentage on it, I would guess 2-5% I really never worked that out.

What I did work out is the fact that what I have in Crypto is an amount I do not care about, if I lost it all tomorrow it would be annoying but not life altering.

While Crypto is down, I keep nibbling at it on a monthly basis.

That 180K my friend made cashing out? He mined all of it, his mining rig is in a server room in his office/business so technically the power consumed was a write off too.

svandamme 02-23-2022 01:54 AM

so technically it was tax fraud?

mining costs on company as deductable
mining profits cashed privately

Jims5543 02-23-2022 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11615364)
so technically it was tax fraud?

mining costs on company as deductable
mining profits cashed privately

LOL!! Yup!!

You own any pearls? Now is a good time to get them out.

Jims5543 02-24-2022 09:55 AM

I think I am going to nibble on some DASH and ETH today.

I feel a little hungry and they are on sale.

RobFrost 02-25-2022 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11615363)
What other hedge is there? Cash? Cash is losing its buying power ever month that goes by.

More Porsches, obviously. I can't believe you had to ask.


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RobFrost 02-25-2022 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11616997)
I think I am going to nibble on some DASH and ETH today.

I feel a little hungry and they are on sale.

Fire sale!

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svandamme 02-25-2022 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobFrost (Post 11618661)
More Porsches, obviously. I can't believe you had to ask.


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buy Porsche
profit
buy Porsche with profit


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svandamme 02-25-2022 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11616997)
I think I am going to nibble on some DASH and ETH today.

I feel a little hungry and they are on sale.

where on this graph did ya buy?

ETH :
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1645865553.jpg

That they can go "on sale", as in marketed as being on sale..
If anybody did that with real stocks, the SEC would be up their @ss faster then that graph knows how to drop.

Jims5543 02-26-2022 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11618672)
where on this graph did ya buy?

ETH :
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1645865553.jpg

That they can go "on sale", as in marketed as being on sale..
If anybody did that with real stocks, the SEC would be up their @ss faster then that graph knows how to drop.

Never bought any ETH nor DASH I was too busy. I actually forgot to get online and buy some. I mostly buy up Dash anytime it is below $100. I just put in a buy for 3 more.


LOL @ FEC yeah they punish everyone BUT the FED and DC Politicians when it comes to shady trading.

I fail to see where the FEC would go after someone for buying up a sale.

Also, people do it all the time, when the stocks dropped because Ukraine was being invaded, the guy I follow for stock tips screamed buy buy buy. If you bought the dip that morning you did very well in 1 day.


When The Rona shut down airlines and cruise lines a good friend of mine (who happens to be a DOD pilot) purchased 100K spread across Airline and Cruise, I would have too if I had been more savvy, he turned that 100K into 300K.

What was illegal about that?

svandamme 02-26-2022 03:16 AM

because if anyone were to anounce discounted prices, outside the actual trades on the floor.
it would be considered insider info, and price manipulationg that facilitates outstanding shorts.

it's the advertising that certain shares are available at a discount, by the trading platform
they do it all the time on crypto platforms..

that would never be allowed on the real stock exchanges.

the crypto exchanges are unregulated, they get away with murder.

svandamme 02-26-2022 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11618701)
When The Rona shut down airlines and cruise lines a good friend of mine (who happens to be a DOD pilot) purchased 100K spread across Airline and Cruise, I would have too if I had been more savvy, he turned that 100K into 300K.

What was illegal about that?



If your good friend did this, before the news was public.. And he somehow knew about it via his job on the inside, then he too would be liable for charges of insder trading.. And it's not something they laugh about..

Jims5543 02-26-2022 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11618732)
If your good friend did this, before the news was public.. And he somehow knew about it via his job on the inside, then he too would be liable for charges of insder trading.. And it's not something they laugh about..

We are on 2 different pages. You are stuck on insider trading, I am looking at common sense trades.

Carry on, let me know if you need any pearls.


Same goes for G&S - I have alerts set to my phone, if silver drops below $22 an ounce I got on a buying spree.

I build cash reserves (like I am doing now with silver up to $25 an ounce) so when it dips, it always does, until it will not anymore, I make some larger purchases.

Same goes for crypto, I keep some cash on hand to invest into it in nibbles when it dips down.

I have no inside information, neither does my friend, we use the tools available and look for opportunities.

In early 2020 I was stupid, I backed out of RE deals because of the Rona, I froze because I believed the fear porn.

That cost me a 200-400K in profits.

svandamme 02-26-2022 03:39 AM

sure, silver no sweat, that makese more sense then crypto..
it will never become air.
worst case you can make silver bullets with it for use against wherewolves ;)

widebody911 02-26-2022 08:19 AM

I've been reading that a relatively small number of individuals hold most of the bitcoin and control most of the mining. They can't cash out in any significant amount without causing the value to plunge, hence the big media marketing push to get the little guys to take it off their hands.

svandamme 02-26-2022 08:22 AM

Crypto.com is a nice example, they have matt Damon giving a nice speech about how fortune favors the brave.

I wonder if he gets paid in hard dollars or in cro crypto.

And does he leave his cro in or does he cash out rightafter the ad campain when the cro goes up?

Jims5543 02-28-2022 02:35 PM

Banning Russia from the world banks, has caused a run on BTC.

Seems Crypto sellers cannot ban Russians from buying.

As a result, BTC is up 15% today. A rising tide blah blah ...All my crypto is up one to 15%.

I just dumped some cash into BTC with the plan to move it to other under performing crypto by weeks end.

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Skillet83 02-28-2022 05:44 PM

I keep buying with fun money. I just DCA a little every month, good or bad, but have a very nice stack. It goes up, it goes down, very volatile. But, at the end of every year, I have a whole lot more.

svandamme 02-28-2022 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11621487)
Banning Russia from the world banks, has caused a run on BTC.

Seems Crypto sellers cannot ban Russians from buying.

As a result, BTC is up 15% today. A rising tide blah blah ...All my crypto is up one to 15%.

I just dumped some cash into BTC with the plan to move it to other under performing crypto by weeks end.

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Untill the US and EU decide they'll ban crypto as a result

tabs 03-01-2022 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11621798)
Untill the US and EU decide they'll ban crypto as a result

Well..they will not hinder the Russians from piling in as much money as they can and will then crash Bitcoin destroying all that wealth..

That is the way to fk a Russian real gud.

svandamme 03-01-2022 01:10 AM

yeah, Tabs, we agree for a change :D

mjohnson 03-01-2022 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11618744)
sure, silver no sweat, that makese more sense then crypto..
it will never become air.
worst case you can make silver bullets with it for use against wherewolves ;)

For some reason we have, literally, a ton of silver sitting in a vault at work as it got contaminated with something. So, should the werewolves come - look us up. You can get Ag with a little extra zing of tritium.

Also, as it's "waste", it's free to whoever (internally) wants it.

Beer will fix the tritium problem (3H binds with water and beer makes pee, or so I hear) but the silver is harder to deal with if you're a werewolf. (Lore is that if you got dosed with 3H at the old bomb factory south of Boulder you got sent home with a cert for a case of Coors)

svandamme 03-01-2022 05:23 AM

I Think the tritium might actually help with zombies?

2 for 1 special?

Jims5543 03-01-2022 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skillet83 (Post 11621658)
I keep buying with fun money. I just DCA a little every month, good or bad, but have a very nice stack. It goes up, it goes down, very volatile. But, at the end of every year, I have a whole lot more.

Any money I have in the crypto world I am prepared to lose.

You miss 100% of the shots you do not take.

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Wayne 962 03-02-2022 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jims5543 (Post 11621487)
Banning Russia from the world banks, has caused a run on BTC.

Seems Crypto sellers cannot ban Russians from buying.

As a result, BTC is up 15% today. A rising tide blah blah ...All my crypto is up one to 15%.

I just dumped some cash into BTC with the plan to move it to other under performing crypto by weeks end.

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Has it really? I would love to see some evidence of the transactions coming from Russia - that would be actual proof rather than hyperbole? I'm actually guessing that the "whales" in the Bitcoin space jumped back in to BTC in *anticipation* of people moving assets into Bitcoin from Russia. But I'm not sure of the reality of that at this moment.

Has anyone on the interwebs looked at where these purchases are coming from?

-Wayne

Jims5543 03-02-2022 09:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne 962 (Post 11623314)
Has it really? I would love to see some evidence of the transactions coming from Russia - that would be actual proof rather than hyperbole? I'm actually guessing that the "whales" in the Bitcoin space jumped back in to BTC in *anticipation* of people moving assets into Bitcoin from Russia. But I'm not sure of the reality of that at this moment.

Has anyone on the interwebs looked at where these purchases are coming from?

-Wayne

I kept getting notices my crypto was rising over and over again Monday.

I wondered WTF was going on, I jumped in a private trading chat room and that was the word circulating there on Monday, which coincided with the news that Cryto sellers refused to attempt to throttle Russia saying it was near impossible to do. Which seemed to explain the sudden 15% increase in BTC.

Sorry, no hard evidence, like there would be anything to trace.

Jims5543 03-03-2022 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne 962 (Post 11623314)
Has it really? I would love to see some evidence of the transactions coming from Russia - that would be actual proof rather than hyperbole? I'm actually guessing that the "whales" in the Bitcoin space jumped back in to BTC in *anticipation* of people moving assets into Bitcoin from Russia. But I'm not sure of the reality of that at this moment.

Has anyone on the interwebs looked at where these purchases are coming from?

-Wayne

https://www.zerohedge.com/crypto/heres-how-much-bitcoin-russia-has-bought-past-week

Seems the 15% spike was more investors anticipating.
Quote:

While the potential for capital flight is high, as Citi details above, Russian volumes (although impressive-looking on the chart) have been relatively small in absolute terms so far (around 210 bitcoin per day on average), suggesting that the price action is more due to investors positioning for an expected uptick in demand from Russia, rather than Russian demand itself.

speeder 03-04-2022 07:52 AM

Anyone who is "investing" in Bitcoin at the moment is definitely "the bigger fool."

Wayne 962 03-04-2022 09:32 AM

Yes, I agree. This market seems to be driven 99% by speculators versus the actual "users" of Bitcoin. Like the Beanie Baby market from 20 years ago - how many of those "investors" were actually playing with the dolls? :)

-Wayne

Jims5543 03-04-2022 11:37 AM

I agree anyone investing in it like the Stock Market (I typed that without laughing) is insane.

I am not invested in it. I have money sprayed around on a bunch of different crypto's hoping one will hit.

Hope being the key word here.


I missed the boat a few times, therefore, you cannot get a hit if you have no skin in the game.

The small amount (relatively speaking) I have in there, would not be missed if it vaporized tomorrow. It would be annoying but would not even hurt.

Now, if one or two of these take off in a year or two... that will be nice.

sugarwood 03-05-2022 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne 962 (Post 11625453)
Yes, I agree. This market seems to be driven 99% by speculators versus the actual "users" of Bitcoin. Like the Beanie Baby market from 20 years ago - how many of those "investors" were actually playing with the dolls? :)

-Wayne

https://i.imgur.com/McdwlxA.jpg

Por_sha911 03-08-2022 04:14 PM

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Shaun @ Tru6 05-09-2022 05:27 PM

30,916.70

pretty tempting

sugarwood 05-10-2022 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 11613320)
You're right, calling it a Ponzi is too legitimate. Crypto is not even a closed loop Ponzi, since it is generated out of thin air. There are thousands of worthless cryptos.

I can create a new cryptocurrency today, create 50 million tokens, buy 3 of them for $1 each, and viola, $50 million marketcap out of thin air. There is far less real money money in the system than the marketcaps suggest.

Very accurate still.

Wayne 962 05-11-2022 12:25 AM

Terra (and Luna) "broke the buck" Sunday night. Even if it comes back, it's forever damaged. Probably Tether too, although it's always been acknowledged that Tether is probably a scam with an upcoming "rug pull!".

-Wayne

McLovin 05-11-2022 11:32 AM

I’m out of Bitcoin.
I had made a nice bit a couple years ago.
But made the mistake of going in again to try to get one last hit.
I had a stop loss in place so I couldn’t lose more than my profits, and it got triggered yesterday.
I believe the bottom will be $6-9,000 or so.

Wayne 962 05-11-2022 12:01 PM

OMG - it's a big deal today. On the Reddit forums, they have posted suicide prevention hotlines for people (on the Terra / Luna forums). So sad. This crap is perhaps a good example of why it might be good to have some government oversight. I'm a government-free Libertarian at heart, but when these companies and schemes and scams prey on very unsophisticated investors, it's really a problem...

-Wayne

Arizona_928 05-11-2022 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wayne 962 (Post 11689162)
OMG - it's a big deal today. On the Reddit forums, they have posted suicide prevention hotlines for people (on the Terra / Luna forums). So sad. This crap is perhaps a good example of why it might be good to have some government oversight. I'm a government-free Libertarian at heart, but when these companies and schemes and scams prey on very unsophisticated investors, it's really a problem...

-Wayne

95$ to a dolla.

I thought I had it bad when peabody coal went to a buck and did a 15:1 reverse. rofl


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