Tesla acceleration. Wow.

[HardDrive]

Wife is seriously considering a Tesla model Y for her next car. I went along for the test drive, and jumped behind the wheel. OF COURSE the first thing I did is pull off in an industrial park and give it the beans. Ho-lee-shiat. The only other car I have driven with kind of acceleration was a Turbo 997. Absolutely insane for $50k car.

I did like it overall. Comfortable. Logical touch screen controls. Serviceable handling. Test driving the Mustang E at some point next week.

[Bob Kontak]

3.5 seconds 0-60. 12.4 for the quarter.

I think I saw one yesterday. Caught my eye and I was thinking Model 3 but it wasn't.

$50k with 300+ mile range. Progress.

Wasn't it a five figure cost in the S for the extended range battery?

[WPOZZZ]

$139k for the new Tesla S Plaid+. 500 mile range. 0-60 in 1.99 seconds.

[Bob Kontak]

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ

$139k for the new Tesla S Plaid+. 500 mile range. 0-60 in 1.99 seconds.

Jeebus!

[rcooled]

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ

0-60 in 1.99 seconds.

Holy crap

I drove a friends dual-motor Model 3 a while back, and if I had to to describe the acceleration in one word, it would be 'explosive'. That full-tilt Model S must really pin your ears back...

[RNajarian]

Worth looking at the entry level Taycan,

https://insideevs.com/news/467220/porsche-entry-level-taycan-variant/

https://insideevs.com/news/467347/2021-porsche-taycan-comparison-epa-range-estimates/

$74,000 with federal credits, a longer range, 301 mile range, car is also available.

I cannot get past Tesla’s reputation as the worst car maker in the US for build quality and reliability.

https://thenextweb.com/shift/2020/06/25/study-tesla-likely-us-worst-carmaker-reliability-build-quality-paint-battery/

0-60 in 1.99 seconds is nice, but finishing the race is more important

[Steve Carlton]

More like $60K for the Model Y that goes to 60 in 3.5 seconds. The S model with dual motors and the big battery can be rigged to to to 60 in 2.3-2.4 seconds (once) in Ludicrous mode. The performance deal is the Model 3 dual motor with the "Performance Boost" download for $2K that takes it about 3.9 seconds or so for a total of about $50K. The Federal tax credit is gone, but there's still some state credits. In CA, I think they add up to about $3,500. Plus the cost/mile is a lot lower, maybe around 20 cents on the dollar.

I got a Model 3 for commuting and it's a fun car. Its body is all aluminum I believe, and you can feel the lightness when driving it. It's silent and fast. Mine only goes to 60 in 5.4 seconds, which is satisfying, but not jaw dropping. The fit and finish is second rate, but the technology is good. It's a good laugh generating a fart sound in the vicinity of any of the seats.

[Nostril Cheese]

Originally Posted by RNajarian

Worth looking at the entry level Taycan,

Working on cars with modern VW/Audi/Porsche electrics... I think they will need a few years to iron everything out.

Buddy of mine has a Model S with all the performance balls out stuff. The only thing I can compare it to is one of the mag lev roller coaster launches... Fun stuff

[Steve Carlton]

I love the idea of a base Taycan. I really like leasing, and Porsche leases suck (like Tesla leases). I almost got a Jaguar I-Pace when they had some gigantic discounts on them and probably missed a good deal on one by a day. They're strong at 0-60 in 4.5 seconds and very nice looking. Tesla was being hard ass with me and telling me if I didn't pick up the car I ordered within 3 days of their short notice date, they would sell it to someone else. That soured me pretty good and I told them their customer service sucked. They offered to deliver it to me, which saved me half a day, so I accepted. That was when I tried to get the I-Pace that I just missed. I'm not unhappy with the Model 3 at all, in fact, it's one of the few cars that I've liked more than I expected to after getting it.

[cstreit]

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ

$139k for the new Tesla S Plaid+. 500 mile range. 0-60 in 1.99 seconds.

Is that a typo?

Who holds your jumblies while thats going on?!

[Bill Douglas]

A week ago I saw a car parked outside my house and thought "That is a really beautiful car" I went over and had a look and it was a Tesla model 3 painted in white. I loved that car.

I kept my ears open for when it fired up and drove off but I must have missed it.

[Evans, Marv]

We bought my wife a Model Y, which we took posession of toward the end of last October. She loves the damn car more than me. Of course I'm decently old and have been driving lots of different cars for around 63 years, and to me it's sort of a digital wonder. Over all, we really like the car. Basically we bought it for me to avoid maintenance associated with a "normal" car, she needed a new car, and we should be able to power the thing almost completely from our excess generation with our solar panels. It's a fairly comfortable car, has a good amount of storage space, the fit & finish was OK as far as I could see. I'd read quite a bit on that so looked for things I was aware of. You won't get one for $50K. We paid about $58.5K for ours and got a $1K credit for her being an educator, plus another $2K from the "Clean Vehicle Rebate Program" - which we haven't received yet. So the car should run around $55.5K if there isn't anything we can get back from the IRS. It's true the seats are comfortable, vision is OK, except the outside mirrors could be larger, and an untold number of things (which my wife knows about & I don't) are automatic. The one negative as far as I'm concerned is the ride. It rides like a rock. The car weighs 4,400 lbs. and the tires are inflated to between 40 & 45 lbs. It's OK on good road surfaces, but a little annoying on rougher stretches. It is a good fit for us in this time frame and situation. Acceleration is great, but I haven't tested that out fully. I'm not overly interested in that but for passing, it's instant.

[Nick Triesch]

It’s amazing to me that a Tesla duel motor model 3 is way faster than an 80’s 911 turbo and just as fast as a new Ferrari or Lamborghini that costs $200,000 plus. Musk says his cars will have a 500 mile range in 5 years. I believe it. I would not buy an EV with a 200 mile range. Tesla is king with range.

[island911]

Originally Posted by WPOZZZ

$139k for the new Tesla S Plaid+. 500 mile range. 0-60 in 1.99 seconds.

Is this one of those things like "Ludicrous mode" where you have to Easter-egg your way into a warranty voiding menu, wait 5 min's, THEN go like hell? ...or is this an always available option?

[HardDrive]

Originally Posted by Evans, Marv

We bought my wife a Model Y, which we took posession of toward the end of last October. She loves the damn car more than me. Of course I'm decently old and have been driving lots of different cars for around 63 years, and to me it's sort of a digital wonder. Over all, we really like the car. Basically we bought it for me to avoid maintenance associated with a "normal" car, she needed a new car, and we should be able to power the thing almost completely from our excess generation with our solar panels. It's a fairly comfortable car, has a good amount of storage space, the fit & finish was OK as far as I could see. I'd read quite a bit on that so looked for things I was aware of. You won't get one for $50K. We paid about $58.5K for ours and got a $1K credit for her being an educator, plus another $2K from the "Clean Vehicle Rebate Program" - which we haven't received yet. So the car should run around $55.5K if there isn't anything we can get back from the IRS. It's true the seats are comfortable, vision is OK, except the outside mirrors could be larger, and an untold number of things (which my wife knows about & I don't) are automatic. The one negative as far as I'm concerned is the ride. It rides like a rock. The car weighs 4,400 lbs. and the tires are inflated to between 40 & 45 lbs. It's OK on good road surfaces, but a little annoying on rougher stretches. It is a good fit for us in this time frame and situation. Acceleration is great, but I haven't tested that out fully. I'm not overly interested in that but for passing, it's instant.

Agree on the ride. The one we tested had 20" wheels, and we both commented on how stiff it was.

[tdw28210]

So I've driven the Taycan Turbo S as fast as I dare in the city, courtesy of Hendrick Porsche. I can only describe the acceleration as otherworldly. I mean, it is absolutely mind-bending, especially since it makes almost no noise until the wind picks up. It literally scared me the first time I launched it. The power feels bottomless. It is part of the reason I am not anti-electric vehicle.

[McLovin]

I’ve put a lot of miles on a Model 3. And also some on a Y now. I agree and disagree with what most say:

1. Most criticize the build quality, and the paint quality. I haven’t seen a problem with that.

2. The materials in the interior look ok, but I can tell they are mostly low cost. Things that people don’t see, like the door hinges etc. are low cost.

3. They are fast, for sure. And effortless speed. No big downshifts and high rev drama. You want to get up to speed on the freeway, accelerate to pass, it’s effortless.

4. It’s novel at first, but it kinda wears off. Ultimately it is a very fast and comfortable appliance. But still an appliance. There is no soul, just cold performance. That’s not necessarily a negative. It’s actually what probably 95% of modern car buyers want. And even for the 5% who want soul, it’s still a tempting trade off, because the Tesla is so competent as a transportation appliance.

For me, I’d still take an old gas powered car. But I fully understand why most Tesla owners love their cars. I know several people who have multiple Teslas. I don’t personally know anyone that doesn’t love their Tesla.

[Evans, Marv]

Ours has a little feature you can dial up on the touch screen panel. It shows how many miles & minutes since you started your last trip. It also shows the (average) amount of power per mile that is being used in Watts. It readjusts every minute or so. I like it because I like to get an idea how much power the car uses uphill, downhill, cruising level, accelerating, etc. I find going uphill uses lots of power as expected - 400+ to 500+ Watts/mile. Going downhill, it gets down to maybe 50 W/mile depending on the amount of descent. If you get on it, it jumps up to 1K+ to 1.5K+ W/mile (or approx. 1.5 kW/mile). Since the useable battery charge is around 68Kw, you can imagine how much distance you have left at that amount of useage. I'm curious what power level it will average on a longer trip on fairly flat freeway. We haven't done that yet.

McLovin. I agree, it's an appliance - sort of the ultimate driving appliance. Except for my Pcar, ours are appliances. My other car is a T-350 Ford van w/ Ecoboost. Can't get much more of an appliance than that, but it's fairly economical, comfortable, and I can put 4x8 pieces of plywood in the back. I love it. I even consider my bike an appliance, probably since as a young guy a motorcycle was my only means of transportation for a long time. So even though it's a bit of fun to twist the throttle and lean it over on curvy roads, I don't feel an anxiety to get on it. I think some people (like me & my wife who doesn't know any different) just need an appliance to get things done.

[onewhippedpuppy]

Instant full torque is addictive for sure. I miss the sound but I get the appeal.

[aigel]

I have been passed at Laguna Seca by a Model 3. Granted, it was heavily prepped, including suspension and wheels / tires. But even in the turns, it wasn't that the 993 was killing it!

The ICE will be in trouble in a lot of segments, that's for sure. Maintenance on an EV is next to nothing.

G