Yup.

Personally I use my ignore list as a time control.
Most anyone that posts a lot here can get on it from time to time.
Especially if they get in a mating ritual with other members that span multiple threads.

Based on how much time I have to read and what is currently being posted mine grows and shrinks.

Stop them from rejoining?

Futile.

I can start 100 new accounts in an hour with unique IP addresses spread all over the planet.

Recognizing them when they come back, cake if you are paying attention.

People are creatures of habit, we can’t help it and drop clues left and right. Stuff you think means nothing but is very revealing.

I can post a google street view of the average members house in under 10 minutes.

Some of you guys don’t really have lives and don’t leave a trail as wide as I95 but you can still be found in 30-40 minutes.

Most of us have owned several marques so belong to different forums and to tend reuse your username or some close derivative.

You’ve volunteered to go look at a car for a fellow forum member so we know where you live.

You will have revealed your name at least once on one of those forums.

You’ve posted the same pics, typically of your cars, to instagram or other social accounts where you use your real name.

Hell, we even post our occupations and belong to the LinkedIn Pelican group for ****s sake.

It’s why I’ve never been shy about who I am or how to find me, it’s all out there and unless your Google fu is woefully pathetic we can all be found in minutes.

There are a lot of people who apparently enjoy the back and forth on a daily basis. Until of course someone manages to push the right button, and then all of a sudden they don't like it.

If you enjoy pushing people's buttons more than contributing to the actual conversation, you could be a troll. If you are asked many times to stop, and you ramp it up to the point where many people are reporting you on a daily basis to the point where you are causing pandemonium in multiple threads, it isn't an accident.

Some people respond to a polite request, other people seem to respond to a minor reminder that they are not immune to the consequences of their actions, and other people rebel against authority. I don't think any moderator here wants to ban anyone, and certainly not permanently. However, if someone gets reported say, over 30 times and then doubles down on their behavior to the point where pages of threads become free for all flame wars, that might be considered grounds for permanent banning.

If everyone else's behavior improves when you are gone, and deteriorates when you participate, that is a serious problem in my book. I like pretty much everyone on this forum. Nobody wants to stop fun back and forth exchanges. But a lot of people forget that what they say to others is often as provoking to the other person as the things that other person says to them that provoked them to respond in kind. That is the time to take a break, and come back tomorrow.

From where I stand, everybody here who is willing to get along and not deliberately provoke people is welcome. You have to really work at it to get more than a slap on the wrist. Nobody just gets banned without some conversation leading up to it. And yeah, you can play the moderators and try to game the system. People do it. But you can't fool everybody all the time. Some of you, if you are honest, will realize I am not the first moderator you have had dealings with. I'm probably not going to be the last.

This is a community, and it is a really good one. We are lucky to have it. In a world where forums are dwindling, this one stays strong because we are a community. That is a pretty cool thing.

Dan, these must be your personal standards, and I commend them.

This has not been the standard of care in the past.

Thank you for cleaning up this thread by the way.

I concur with Dan - this is a great place and I'm glad to be a part of it.

Yeah, but - where'd you bury the gold? That's what I want to know...

Keep in mind, moderators are also people - we have bad days, we get grumpy, we make mistakes. But hopefully we also grow and mature and gain an understanding on how to help keep the forum at an even temper...

And if we're out of line, call us out on it. Hopefully that will knock some sense into us.

We are also members of this forum and wish to participate in the discussions, sometimes even in the controversial ones.

Just don'e be a poopy-head!

The old rule still applies... Don't write anything here you wouldn't say to someones face.

"Troll" - An imaginary, either very large or very small creature in traditional Scandinavian stories, that has magical powers and lives in mountains or caves

lol... ;)

Would it not be simpler just to get rid of all the trolls? I think everyone here could give you a list of the usual suspects.

Hardly anyone would survive a ban on anyone that trolls.
Some of the funniest thread titles on this forum are troll titles.

There is a subset of trolling that is the rough part for the forum.
One that directs the untreated output of toilets right into the drinking water.

I promise not to violate Z-man's rule #2 another 20K times ... or mebbe not ;).

Methinks it's working just fine....

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All lower Michiganders are described as 'trolls'

Because of living under the bridge. :)

sounds like something a yooper would say:)

^^^
you are correct, sir :)

One of my friends, who is one of the nicest guys you'd ever meet, also frequents a boat racing forum that myself and a bunch of other friends are members of. When hes on line, he becomes the biggest dick there is. He stirs ***** and says thing he'd never say in real life. It's like Jekkyl and Hyde. When we see him, we are like " dude WTF is up with you."?? He just laughs and brushes it off.


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The situation has been dealt with. Thank you for your patience while we moderators dealt with this matter.

Carry on...

Dare we ask what exactly has been dealt with?

Ban Island has a new resident (permanent or temporary, I am not sure)

Well, if it’s the one I’m thinking of, I certainly hope it’s permanent. I think he’s been temporarily banned before, to no particular effect.

He's on Ban Island for a month. When he comes back and continues with the personal attacks and trolling, he will be banned for 2 months. Then 3 months, 4 months...and so on.

And as with all members, creating a second username / alias account results in a permanent ban.