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cabmandone 02-21-2021 05:03 AM

The ammo shortage is getting out of hand!
 
I was out shopping for some 12 gauge 3" #1 Buck and couldn't find any available anywhere! The shelves were pretty much bare. Pheasant load, trap load, you name it... gone, didn't matter what gauge or chambering. I searched online and it looks like the 9mm mad scramble has now extended to shotgun ammo. Even the smaller caliber rifle stuff was empty .223, 22/250 etc. Oddly, plenty of .308 and 7mm. A friend told me .22 is getting scarce again. People need to calm down.

For now, the Coyotes are safe! But once I can find some 00 or #1, they're in deep trouble. Looks like the yote population around here is about to explode!

flatbutt 02-21-2021 05:06 AM

CTD has Winchester 5.56 at nearly $2 / round! I'm not even practicing anymore.

cabmandone 02-21-2021 05:14 AM

This is nuts! Last year when I was on my quest for 1000 rounds of 9mm, shotgun ammo was plentiful. Now, I'm looking for some loads for yote hunting and the shotgun ammo shelves are virtually bare everywhere I've gone. There's still some slug ammo available at a few stores but the shot loads were pretty much gone.

Nostril Cheese 02-21-2021 05:20 AM

How much ammo do you usually keep on hand?

I just have a couple boxes of 12 gauge. have a few friends who get seriously tweaked if they dont have like a dump truck full of ammo.

cabmandone 02-21-2021 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nostril Cheese (Post 11233684)
How much ammo do you usually keep on hand?

I just have a couple boxes of 12 gauge. have a few friends who get seriously tweaked if they dont have like a dump truck full of ammo.

I typically have 4-6 boxes of 6 shot for rabbit hunting. 2 boxes of 8 shot and buy my specialty stuff as needed.. BIG mistake

osidak 02-21-2021 05:51 AM

there is NOTHING on the shelves here

red-beard 02-21-2021 09:19 AM

I guess no spoon food for a while.

I should probably buy one of those laser snap caps with the target that connects to your phone.

The Synergizer 02-21-2021 09:36 AM

You're a fool if you burn up all your ammo right now. Always keep a reserve.

It's like the toilet paper hysteria.
Until Biden and the democrats come clean on their intentions, it will continue.

Eric 951 02-21-2021 09:44 AM

having a heck of time finding20 GA 6 and 7-1/2 game loads. Have another hunt coming up and have been keeping an eye peeled.

HardDrive 02-21-2021 09:45 AM

I would like to get my hands on some cheap .30-06 simply because I enjoy shooting my deer rifle, but c'est la vie. I have enough hunting ammo to last the rest of my life.

I actually read an article about the shortage. There were interviews with major manufacturers. They are producing as much as possible, but everyone is in full panic buying mode right now, and it creates a self fulfilling prophecy. People walk in and see empty shelves, and buy anything they can get their hands on at any price, even if they don't need it. I guess there are guys sitting out there with 500 rounds of buckshot. WTF are you going to do with it?

shoemakj 02-21-2021 09:49 AM

The ammo aisle at a one of the Walmarts near Montgomery, Ala. just now. I thought I was going to shoot some sporting clays today. I guess not.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1613929324.jpg

red-beard 02-21-2021 10:07 AM

Why keep it locked if it is empty?

shoemakj 02-21-2021 10:12 AM

I wondered the same thing but there was no one to ask at the counter that’s just out of frame. In fact, it looked like that counter hadn’t seen any business for a while based on all junk piled on it.

Rick Lee 02-21-2021 10:34 AM

Retail shelves have been bare for a while. Inventory pops up once in a while, but it's gone in minutes. You gotta buy in bulk online and sign up for the email alerts when stuff comes in.

BTW, how is CTD still in business? Their prices have always completely sucked and, during a panic buy, they are always the first to jack prices up to the stratosphere, even canceling existing orders at lower prices, so they can sell the stuff they already have in stock for even more. I wouldn't shop there unless I knew they'd lose money on me. Eff them. They should get sued just for having an Orwellian name that's always been the opposite of the truth.

Wetwork 02-21-2021 11:50 AM

The stuff is still getting produced but like during the last famine, its getting snapped up as soon as the pallet-jack rolls out. They don't even bother putting it on the shelves in a lot of sporting good stores around here. A whole pallet of misc. gone in a few hours.

So there's this app...I won't divulge too much but it's called Discord. Some sort of chat new gen wierdness, far too advanced for me. I use it for one reason and one reason alone. Getting powder primers and bullets. On this app, find reloading, then in-stock notification. I couldn't explain how to do it I had a kid set up my phone. I've gotten stuff ordered and delivered during this famine from the big online stores. I get notified at all hours, day or night.-WW

rfuerst911sc 02-21-2021 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11234064)
Why keep it locked if it is empty?

So the lock doesn't get stolen 😁

tabs 02-21-2021 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11233669)
I was out shopping for some 12 gauge 3" #1 Buck and couldn't find any available anywhere! The shelves were pretty much bare. Pheasant load, trap load, you name it... gone, didn't matter what gauge or chambering. I searched online and it looks like the 9mm mad scramble has now extended to shotgun ammo. Even the smaller caliber rifle stuff was empty .223, 22/250 etc. Oddly, plenty of .308 and 7mm. A friend told me .22 is getting scarce again. People need to calm down.

For now, the Coyotes are safe! But once I can find some 00 or #1, they're in deep trouble. Looks like the yote population around here is about to explode!

Ahh why do ya think this is going on?

A930Rocket 02-21-2021 12:17 PM

I keep about 1k rounds of 9mm and .223, but have about 2.5k of 22.

I was looking at Palmetto State Armory and .223 was $8xx for 1k rounds.

red-beard 02-21-2021 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11234198)
I keep about 1k rounds of 9mm and .223, but have about 2.5k of 22.

I was looking at Palmetto State Armory and .223 was $8xx for 1k rounds.

9mm is going for more than that per round!

HardDrive 02-21-2021 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 11234187)
Ahh why do ya think this is going on?

I'm going with "All of Tabs predictions of earth shattering doom are becoming reality" for $200 Alex.

Rot 911 02-21-2021 12:35 PM

You would think at some point they would reach saturation with the people that are doing the panic buying.

varmint 02-21-2021 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rot 911 (Post 11234212)
You would think at some point they would reach saturation with the people that are doing the panic buying.



i go to the range once a month and blow through a couple hundred rounds. at that rate i don't see my hoard lasting through the current administration. and i don't know what the laws will be at the end.

red-beard 02-21-2021 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by varmint (Post 11234221)
i go to the range once a month and blow through a couple hundred rounds. at that rate i don't see my hoard lasting through the current administration. and i don't know what the laws will be at the end.

Which is why I'm thinking of getting a snap-cap laser system. Even at $90 it will pay for itself in no time.

cabmandone 02-21-2021 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 11234187)
Ahh why do ya think this is going on?

Because people have gone absolutely nucking futs.

fintstone 02-21-2021 02:45 PM

probably because of H.R. 5717 https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/5717/text that apparently:

-creates a nationwide gun registry for new and existing guns including location;
-requires individuals to obtain a license to purchase, acquire, or possess a firearm or ammunition;
-raises the minimum age—from 18 years to 21 years—to purchase firearms and ammunition;
-establishes new background check requirements for firearm transfers between private parties;
-requires law enforcement agencies to be notified following a firearms-related background check that results in a denial;
-(implements national "Red Flag" gun confiscation) creates a statutory process for a family or household member to petition a court for an extreme -risk protection order to remove firearms from an individual who poses a risk of committing violence;
-ban the sale of almost all semiautomatic rifles and magazines (restricts the import, sale, manufacture, transfer, or possession of semiautomatic assault weapons and large capacity ammunition feeding devices);
-ban home builds and suppressors (restricts the manufacture, sale, transfer, purchase, or receipt of ghost guns (i.e., guns without serial numbers));
-makes trafficking in firearms a stand-alone criminal offense;
-Force FFLs to spend massive amounts of money to comply with new "security" requirements (requires federally licensed gun dealers to submit and annually certify compliance with a security plan to detect and deter firearm theft);
-expand "Gun Free Zones";
-removes limitations on the civil liability of gun manufacturers;
-allows the Consumer Product Safety Commission to issue safety standards for firearms and firearm components;
-taxes guns at 30% and ammo at 50%;
-rations guns by making it illegal to purchase more than one firearm in a 30-day period

cabmandone 02-21-2021 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11234228)
Which is why I'm thinking of getting a snap-cap laser system. Even at $90 it will pay for itself in no time.

I use the laser snap cap with Itarget Pro. It's okay. Nothing like live fire though.

red-beard 02-21-2021 03:40 PM

This is being pushed by one of our local Reps, Shelia Jackson Lee, and it hurts her largest demographic the most. It will prevent lower income people from protecting themselves more than any other group.

cabmandone 02-21-2021 03:44 PM

I'm not overly worried about it. It will never stand up to legal challenges.

red-beard 02-21-2021 03:48 PM

I'm not worried either. It won't affect any of the firearms I own...

tabs 02-21-2021 03:49 PM

giving up your guns is a small price to pay for safety.

Por_sha911 02-21-2021 03:50 PM

The game is ask for too much and then settle for
-a national registry
-a license required before you can own a gun
-an extra tax on guns and ammo smaller than what was requested.

This way they can get what they wanted and the American people have given away yet another part of the Constitution.

tabs 02-21-2021 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11234450)
This is being pushed by one of our local Reps, Shelia Jackson Lee, and it hurts her largest demographic the most. It will prevent lower income people from protecting themselves more than any other group.

Well of course it is those people that you have to fear the most.

cabmandone 02-21-2021 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Por_sha911 (Post 11234463)
The game is ask for too much and then settle for
-a national registry
-a license required before you can own a gun
-an extra tax on guns and ammo smaller than what was requested.

This way they can get what they wanted and the American people have given away yet another part of the Constitution.

None of that will happen. The idea that it will happen is exactly why people have lost their f'ing minds. Fear is a powerful motivator. It makes otherwise sensible people do totally crazy things.

Arizona_928 02-21-2021 04:08 PM

shall not be infringed.....



I'm still waiting on the buy backs to come. You will see the handmade/homemade single shots come out of my garage in masses.....

Jeff Higgins 02-21-2021 04:47 PM

I'm weathering this one the same way I weathered the last one - air guns. I still get meaningful practice every day, without even leaving my home. And believe me - just a dozen rounds, once a day, will improve your shooting to a far greater degree than 200 rounds once a month.

red-beard 02-21-2021 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 11234521)
I'm weathering this one the same way I weathered the last one - air guns. I still get meaningful practice every day, without even leaving my home. And believe me - just a dozen rounds, once a day, will improve your shooting to a far greater degree than 200 rounds once a month.

I should pull mine out. The only issue is the .22 caliber break action I have sounds the same as and as loud as a .22LR. I do have a .177 that is "quieter".

Rick Lee 02-21-2021 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11234477)
shall not be infringed.....



I'm still waiting on the buy backs to come. You will see the handmade/homemade single shots come out of my garage in masses.....

Since the gov't has never sold me a gun, they can't buy any of mine back. Eff them.

Jeff Higgins 02-21-2021 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 11234540)
I should pull mine out. The only issue is the .22 caliber break action I have sounds the same as and as loud as a .22LR. I do have a .177 that is "quieter".

Funny, I just bought a "moderator" (as Weihrauch calls them) for my HW 80 spring-piston rifle. I was very disappointed - it made no difference in the sound level whatsoever.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1613958150.jpg

The majority of the noise from these spring-piston guns comes from the action of the piston slapping forward. I have found they all get a lot quieter as the break in. Granted, it also seems to take 1,000 rounds or more to properly break one in, but they do get quieter.

Arizona_928 02-21-2021 05:47 PM

they're subsonic..... ^^^

flatbutt 02-21-2021 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HardDrive (Post 11234034)

I actually read an article about the shortage. There were interviews with major manufacturers. They are producing as much as possible, but everyone is in full panic buying mode right now, and it creates a self fulfilling prophecy. People walk in and see empty shelves, and buy anything they can get their hands on at any price, even if they don't need it. I guess there are guys sitting out there with 500 rounds of buckshot. WTF are you going to do with it?

I'm starting to doubt that line. I check everyday and there is never anything available. How is that possible?


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