Just to be clear, I love Teslas and would buy one. I just don't think that they compare in an apples/apples way to new Porsche turbos. I'd rather have the Porsche but no chance I'm buying one. :)

All good points, Michael. You're relatively speaking, still a young guy...but it seems you've grown up to the point of knowing that fast cars tend to make you yawn, and think "so what?" because of today's real road driving conditions. Performance simply doesn't charm us like it used to. Comfort and other factors enter in.

Yep, I could probably go all electric and survive quite well, except for when I wanted to visit my cousin in the Spokane, WA. area.

But the current set-up of a Mustang for highway trips and the Camry for the runabout errands thing serves us well. Both have low miles. Both paid for. Really no logical reason to change, other than now wishing the Mustang had an automatic trans.

Also, oh yeah...I'd be doing lots of sagebrush watering on the drive to Burns and back home. I've been lobbying that in the seniors division of pool tournaments, men should be allowed two breaks per match instead of the one break the rules allow. ;)

The other question here is why you're going to Burns anyway...


Teslas often don't make their range claims - there is a web site where a dozen EVs were tested for range.

Having owned a couple generations of 911 Turbo, no one has mentioned the one reason that I do not ever plan on getting another “new” one.

The lack of a third pedal.

Yeah I know it’s faster, but for me the joy is in the drive, not the total performance numbers.

this thread could use a picture or two

Try clicking the link in the OP. Photos, text and a great video.

The funny thing is, I generally hate new cars, including new Porsches but this thing is off the charts great. I could swear that I was on a Tesla forum by some of the responses. Bizarre.

I agree Denis.

Wtf

I'd often head for the wide open spaces of the Eastern Oregon high desert...once far enough from Bend, it was quite pleasant. Too damned many people in Western, and now central Oregon. Just some head clearing crowds avoidance...

Guess Pelican has gone full woke too huh? Electric cars are fine but other than being fast bore me to tears. Also they aren’t ready for “real car” duty in the Midwest and other areas where you drive real distance through rural areas. Saturday I drove almost 1,000 miles in one day through rural KS, MO, and OK to look at boats for sale. I was likely hundreds of mules away from the nearest charging station. Good luck making that trip in one day in any EV.

If there was posting from the Holy Scriptures of thge Church of aWoke I missed it.
The thread started with a performance based title, and the article itself compares the peformance of the 911 Turbo to a Tesla.
Thread isn't doing any deviation from the artcle when talking about Tesla.

Maybe I missed something somewhere in there?

After glancing through the article, an impressive part is these numbers are achieved using the same tire model I have on my Jaguar.
Hook my cat up with 640 HP and it won't put down anywhere near those numbers.
The balance, suspension, and fine tuning of the electronic launch control is impressive.

Right, I think the Porsche engineers have launch control figured out. The performance is thoroughly impressive, although the launches don't really look like much since the thing just takes off. No crazy tire spinning or anything like that.

I'd like to drive the new 911 turbo just to feel those freaking brakes...can you imagine? Just do some triple-digit track driving and mashing the brakes. The physics would be insane. :cool:

This. I would like to see a Model S and an ICE sports car do a 20 lap race at Road America.

You do that every day do ya, went to look at boats a 1000 miles away? Did you drive something there to tow it home? If so, a new 911 Turbo wouldn't work for your real car duty either......

But no doubt the supercharging infrastructure in the Midwest is different then out west.

Its funny how someone who's actually put a significant amount of mileage on one and drives one every day is now "Woke" or just maybe someone who's actually put some significant mileage on one and drives one everyday has an informed opinion about their actual use. Maybe even more then a magazine tester who gets it for one day.

I actually got a 10 minute ride in a Tesla several years ago and paid zero attention to it. I had just dropped off my new GT350 to get detailed and a clear bra installed. The shop owner dropped me back off at work in his Tesla. After the sound of that GT350, we get in the Tesla puts it in drive and nothing, nada. Boring as hell. Didn't get it, not interested at all. 100% not interested. 100% would've been excited had that been a new Turbo.

Fast forward a couple of years, I’ve put probably less then 10K miles on the GT350 and decide i want something different to drive everyday. Hmmm, let me check this Tesla thing out, some of them look pretty good when done up right. I go and test drive one and thought it was kinda cool. Loved the tech. Now after a couple years of driving it everyday and over 20K miles on it, I can, without a doubt say its the best car I've ever owned. I actually look forward to driving it. I love the contrast between it and our other ICE cars and appreciate them all for the differences. But honestly,
I absolutely can't stand going to agas station. I'm used to leaving everyday with a full tank. I appreciate the convenience. My wife sold her Mini Cooper S and bought a Model 3. She absolutely loves the thing. Its not even a Tesla thing.. I'm seriously afraid to go test drive the new Porsche Taycan. I know i will love it and a Turbo Taycan is just not in the budget.

"woke"...boy that made me laugh. I'm sure Michael is going to join the "defund the police" crowd any day now. :rolleyes:

I can see how all electric fits well in many lifestyles. I can also see where it wouldn't fit in others.

Just not for me...

Also, the day high performance internal combustion cars are outlawed will be a sad day indeed. Even though I don't want a supercar, it's nice knowing that they are out there.

Id rather have a performance model S than an AMG sedan or M5

However Id rather have a sports car than any of the above. 911TT qualifies as a sports car for me even if she is a bit thicc as the kids say

Actually Michael I did drive my F250 so in theory yes I could have towed it home. Even ended up putting a deposit down on one but it doesn’t have a trailer so I’ll have to have it transported. But I’m pretty sure that had I driven my new 911 Turbo I could have easily refueled it with gasoline from the dozens of stations I passed. To answer the other part of your question yes, my family does regularly make trips through rural areas that would defy the range of any EV on the market. It’s easy to be a few hundred miles away from any charging station, not to mention a high voltage model like a Supercharger. I’m glad you love your Tesla but I find it odd the vitriol that some defend them with. The simple reality is that for a good portion of the country an EV still isn’t suitable for an only car. For the LA metro they make more sense, but the vast majority of our nation looks nothing like LA.

Perhaps the weirdest thing about this thread is that a post about the new 911 Turbo has turned into an EV fan fest on a Porsche forum.

Lol no doubt. Sorry Denis, not sure how i got sucked into this thread.

The new Turbo looks awesome, I'd love to take one for a spin.

^For loving the Tesla you have a whole bunch of fossil fuel burners in your sig :)

The new turbo is insane and supremely cool and with those big carbon brakes I bet it wouldn't be too bad on the track. It is heavier than a purpose built track 911 like the GT3 etc.

What I am waiting on is the new GT2 if the turbo is that BA, imagine the performance of the '2