Strange law?

stevej37 · 07:48 AM

Using one of the self-checkouts this am and a gal, who looked mid twenties, couldn't finish her checkout...the light was on to summon help.

A worker came over and said she needed to see her ID for the non-alcoholic beer that she had scanned. She asked "why" and the worker said it's state law.

I had never heard of that.

Is that the law in all states?

Gogar · 04-12-2021, 06:47 AM

It is here. Bitters too. Which I thought was even weirder.

stevej37 · 04-12-2021, 06:56 AM

If it's because it's called 'beer'....then root beer should be treated the same.

vonsmog · 04-12-2021, 06:58 AM

Hell here in NY you have to show your ID to buy spray paint and glue!!

red-beard · red-beard's Garage

Back 30+ years ago, there was a big deal about "baby beer". It was non-alcoholic beer so anyone could buy it. So of course, like "ghost gun" it was inflamed to be something it wasn't. They talked about 8 and 10 year olds buying "beer".

Some laws were changed/made.

stevej37 · 04-12-2021, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vonsmog

Hell here in NY you have to show your ID to buy spray paint and glue!!

Yeah, we have those treated the same...to discourage the huffers.

GH85Carrera · GH85Carrera's Garage

I don't need to show my ID in Oklahoma, but I don't look remotely like a 20 or 30 something man. Lots of grey hair (I never cared if it turned grey, just don't turn loose) and unless it is a store policy never need to show ID.

One store nearby had a policy that anyone buying alcohol or cigarettes had to show ID. I laughed and told the clerk I had not been carded in years. He pointed at a guy in the store and said that is my older brother. I know his exact birthday, and how old he is. He pointed at the video camera and said if they saw him sell beer to anyone without asking for ID he would be fired, even his own brother.

In Tennessee if you order alcohol at a restaurant, even if you look like a geezer, they will ask to see ID before you can get it. I sat next to a table with a family and the matriarch who was likely in her 80s, wanted a beer, but her son had picked her up and she did not bring her wallet. He had to order the beer, and show ID, and then just let his mom drink it.

stevej37 · 04-12-2021, 07:08 AM

^^^ I have no problem with what you are talking about.

I just don't agree with NA Beer being regulated.

Zeke · 04-12-2021, 07:15 AM

There is a little alcohol in NB (near beer). It's only .05% and Nyquill has .10.

Getting back the self checkout, I doubt a live checker would have carded her. It's the programmer's fault.

stevej37 · 04-12-2021, 07:19 AM

^^^ If it was real beer....she should have been carded. She could have easily passed for 18
But being state law...the sale was done right. (even though there was no alcohol)

masraum · 04-12-2021, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

There is a little alcohol in NB (near beer). It's only .05% and Nyquill has .10.

Getting back the self checkout, I doubt a live checker would have carded her. It's the programmer's fault.

I think the deal is that the machine called a person over and required them to check the ID. The live person, if they didn't care, could have just cleared it. The checkers are taught to check or they can get in trouble including legal.

I knew a girl that was a waitress. The club where she worked had doormen that checked ID. No one underage was supposed to be in the bar. The bar was usually packed. The waitress (a bunch of them actually) were arrested for serving minors.

So even though everyone in the club should have had an ID that was checked and should have been of-age to even be in the building the waitresses would have had to re-check ID in a dark, loud, busy club to keep from being arrested.

Granted, it was a club in a college town that was known to be easy to get into with a bad fake ID, or presumably by knowing someone or whatever other means might work.

stevej37 · 04-12-2021, 07:28 AM

If it's state law...the programmer did the right thing.

My point is...why is na beer treated the same as any alcohol?

GH85Carrera · GH85Carrera's Garage

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Originally Posted by stevej37

^^^ I have no problem with what you are talking about.

I just don't agree with NA Beer being regulated.

I agree, it was no big deal. Most places tell employees if there is any possible doubt of age, get an ID. Only some extraterrestrial could not tell I am well over 21. Heck I have turned 21 three times now (63 plus) so some judgement should be allowed. But it only takes a few seconds to show my driver's license.

I get my beer at a local convenience store that has a drive through. I never used the drive thru until the Hunan Virus hit. Now it reduced possible exposure to me, so I use the drive thru if there is no line. If there is a line, screw it, I go inside and get my supplies. They hand me a cold 6 pack or 12 pack right into my car.

When the state of Oklahoma cam into being the state constitution prohibited all alcohol except 3.2% and lower beer. The constitution stated that 3.2% or lower was not alcoholic. We finally got common sense liquor laws a few years ago. I can buy any beer sold in Oklahoma at a grocery store or liquor store.

JackDidley · JackDidley's Garage

I think its how the NA beer is entered into the system. I used to buy it on Sunday at the supermarket. An old lady in the next lane threw a fit one day saying I should go to hell and the store should not sell on Sunday. The next time I went in it was listed as alcohol and I could no longer buy it on Sunday. I guess she *****ed to a store manager. Indiana law changed about 3 years ago and now you can buy booze on Sunday, after 12 noon.

GH85Carrera · GH85Carrera's Garage

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Originally Posted by JackDidley

I think its how the NA beer is entered into the system. I used to buy it on Sunday at the supermarket. An old lady in the next lane threw a fit one day saying I should go to hell and the store should not sell on Sunday. The next time I went in it was listed as alcohol and I could no longer buy it on Sunday. I guess she *****ed to a store manager. Indiana law changed about 3 years ago and now you can buy booze on Sunday, after 12 noon.

I grew up in Alabama in the early 1970s. They had blue laws and virtually all stores of any sort were closed on Sundays. Some of the larger grocery store chains came along with deep enough pockets to challenge the blue laws as unconstitutional. Of course they won, and there is no logical reason to pick Sunday as the one day of the week a grocer can't earn a living. Soon shoe stores, and most other businesses that want to be open were open on Sunday.

If a store like Chick-fil-A CHOOSE to be closed on any day they pick, that is 100% their right. Other chicken restaurants are open if they want.

Nostril Cheese · 04-12-2021, 10:20 AM

The real "strange" issue here is a mid 20's female buying non-alcoholic beer...

WTF?!

pwd72s · 04-12-2021, 10:27 AM

So, the only thing no ID required is voting?

Bob Kontak · Bob Kontak's Garage

From this link it's to not promote alcoholic beverages to kids. I'm ok with that.

Not really – they restrict the sale of alcohol-free beer for two main reasons:

To avoid promoting alcohol to children
To make it easier to enforce rules regarding alcoholic drinks

https://steadydrinker.com/articles/id-alcohol-free-beer/

Steve, I did find the Bells Two Hearted Saturday and I didn't get carded. Surely store policy and at the right angle, I do look over 30.

stevej37 · 01:45 PM

^^^ Good job! I'm sure you will like it.
If it isn't strong enough for your taste they also make this one...but it's not sold in stores. Either at their Eccentric Cafe in Kalamazoo or a few bars and restaurants offer it on tap. 11% ABV

edit: I just read the link you posted...explains a lot.

cabmandone · cabmandone's Garage

I always thought it was because NA's still have a small amount of alcohol in them.