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rusnak 04-15-2021 12:24 PM

Ratcheting bit driver

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618518209.jpg

Rusty Heap 04-15-2021 12:37 PM

super small stubby


https://www.summitracing.com/parts/otc-4781?seid=srese1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwyN-DBhCDARIsAFOELTnWwXLR-mMr95tnO__T1Qozfg2mC9sb50ewCrFLbQBgo02AD_12CYEaAvR 8EALw_wcB

dad911 04-15-2021 12:57 PM

Amazon $13

Ultra Low Profile Offset


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pmax 04-15-2021 12:57 PM

If those fail, hacksaw blade.

But remember, assembly is simply the reverse of disassembly.

911 Rod 04-20-2021 08:06 AM

I'm going insane.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618934792.jpg

stevej37 04-20-2021 08:12 AM

That's likely to twist on your finger.
A good layer of super glue would hold it better. :D

911 Rod 04-20-2021 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11303059)
That's likely to twist on your finger.
A good layer of super glue would hold it better. :D

My tech jokingly said the same thing!
I was hoping to press on the end with my thumb, but really it was for the photo.
I'm at my wits end and currently looking for a tech that has done this.
Curious to see what this costs me to remove two screws.
I'm good with a grand at this point.
4:20 at 4/20 is coming soon!!

id10t 04-20-2021 08:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11298325)
The sensor is in the hopper to tell you when to put another toner bottle in. Without it the machine is scrap.

Why? Will it not try to function if there isn't enough toner?

If so, then figure out what kinda signal that sensor is sending/blocking, and emulate that.

masraum 04-20-2021 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11303049)

immediately came to mind...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DH_6U3MW0AEE7B1.jpg

GH85Carrera 04-20-2021 08:39 AM

My gas grill had a similar access problem when the spark generator igniter died. I am pretty sure they started with the igniter and built the grill around it. Even if I could replace the physical button-igniter, there was no way to hook up the wires.

I finally just made a ugly bracket and added the replacement switch to the bottom of the grill. Only if you look under the grill can you see it.

Is there any way to remove more of the copier to gain access to the screws?

Have you looked on-line for the repair manual for that model of copier? They might have the procedure the pros have to use to replace that switch.

911 Rod 04-20-2021 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by id10t (Post 11303074)
Why? Will it not try to function if there isn't enough toner?

If so, then figure out what kinda signal that sensor is sending/blocking, and emulate that.

A bit more complex than that. The toner is mixed with magnetic developer that then sends it to a drum and then a transfer blanket. if you over or under tone in the developer bad things happen.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11303094)
Is there any way to remove more of the copier to gain access to the screws?

Have you looked on-line for the repair manual for that model of copier? They might have the procedure the pros have to use to replace that switch.

I was fully prepared to drill holes to access the screws. I have dismantled the machine to the point I was having an anxiety attack thinking I could put it back together.
Unfortunately there were too many vital parts (gears, shafts etc.) for me to drill through.

911 Rod 04-20-2021 08:49 AM

I also have 1,000's of pages of manuals and advice from a tech.

1990C4S 04-20-2021 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 911 Rod (Post 11303070)
4:20 at 4/20 is coming soon!!

That will definitely help solve the problem.

jcwade 04-20-2021 03:57 PM

One of these.

Ratcheting too.http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618962829.JPG

john walker's workshop 04-20-2021 05:24 PM

Standard 1/4 drive ratcheting hex driver, slip in a short bit, weld the end and grind as thin as possible. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618968113.JPG

cabmandone 04-20-2021 05:27 PM

Braze or epoxy Phillips head into a 1/4 box end wrench or glue one into a 1/4 ratcheting end wrench.

herr_oberst 04-20-2021 05:51 PM

4 color copier/printers are such an enigma.
On the one hand, the engineering solutions devised to solve all the intricate tasks needed to create a print that is almost undetectable from offset is astonishing. On the other hand, manufacturing to meet a price point means that a service contract is a must. Nothing has been overlooked in the interest of saving a penny. Once the first sensor or circuit board or gear drive is roached, you need to accept that the rest of the machine already has one plastic caster in the scrap heap.

flatbutt 04-21-2021 04:13 AM

Designers should be required to perform service before finalizing their creations.

911 Rod 04-21-2021 05:20 AM

Thanks for the tips guys.
There is not room for any of those tools. lol
The screws are 1/8" away from the sensor, 1/4" away from the plate behind it, I can swing the tool maybe 1/2" and the tool can be no longer than 1" so I can swing it.
Service contract is a good way to kill my profits as a small business. Senseless.

911 Rod 04-29-2021 08:40 AM

Update.
I called in a tech. 2 of them showed up and ripped the machine apart like a fat kid on a smartie.
Took them 2 hours and I'm back in business.
Best $400 I've ever spent.
This is the first service call I have had to put in for the 3 years since I canceled my contract.
Like they say "If you are not handsome, you better be handy!".


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