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911 Rod 04-15-2021 10:13 AM

Shallow Philips wrench
 
How many special tools does everyone have?
I'm trying to replace a sensor on a machine and I can only get my fingers in to remove 2 small phillips screws. So I need a 90 degree phillips tool to go around a corner and be as thick as my finger.
It will need to behind this box (Lid is partially off as I'm trying everything and anything)
Any ideas Pelican team?http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618510411.jpg

fastfredracing 04-15-2021 10:18 AM

A pair of needle nosed vice grips holding a phillips bit, one small turn at a time .

stevej37 04-15-2021 10:22 AM

https://www.grainger.com/product/21GU77?gucid=N:N:PS:Paid:MS:CSM-2295:TVRYAD:20501231&s_kwcid=AL!2966!10!7882137377 4305!4582420881766803&ef_id=c0e4e4a3916c1dd64be284 db1538acdb:G:s&gclid=c0e4e4a3916c1dd64be284db1538a cdb&gclsrc=3p.ds&msclkid=c0e4e4a3916c1dd64be284db1 538acdb&gclid=c0e4e4a3916c1dd64be284db1538acdb&gcl src=3p.ds

Chocaholic 04-15-2021 10:24 AM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618511010.jpg

Every toolbox should have these. Have saved my bacon many times. Check HF.

911 Rod 04-15-2021 10:28 AM

All too tall and I have them.
If I had a welder I was thinking of cutting a bit down and attaching a little arm to it.

911 Rod 04-15-2021 10:29 AM

It can only be 1/2" tall with a 1" arm.

911 Rod 04-15-2021 10:31 AM

Maybe this type if I cut them would be better. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618511463.jpg

herr_oberst 04-15-2021 10:37 AM

Looks like a copier.

911 Rod 04-15-2021 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11298211)
Looks like a copier.

Yes sir.

herr_oberst 04-15-2021 10:43 AM

Slippery slope. Good luck.

911 Rod 04-15-2021 11:20 AM

I just talked to a tech with over 20 years experience and he says I'm f##cked. Non serviceable.
I'm going to order the ultra low offset bit. If that doesn't work I'll need to drill a hole and mount the sensor to the front. The wires/connection is also in behind so I have no idea how I will extend them.
Thanks for listening guys. I really just needed to vent.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618514427.jpg

masraum 04-15-2021 11:26 AM

very interesting, thanks for posting. Hopefully, the screw(s) aren't very tight.

stevej37 04-15-2021 11:32 AM

There is nothing that you can remove to get at it better?
How did they set the screw initially?

Cooper911SC 04-15-2021 11:51 AM

This set has saved my bacon a few times!
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618516148.jpg

Don’t know if you have any wiggle room on that 1/2”... pretty close...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618516237.jpg

#1 Philip’s bit in the tool. #0 is a fraction shorter.

911 Rod 04-15-2021 11:55 AM

Small machine screws. So they are USUALLY not too tight.
I brought my hole saws into work and was fully prepared to make an access hole (or 10) on the other side to get access. Too many vital parts getting in the way and had to abandon the idea.
I think it was assembled on it's side with all the gears and shafts. Of course the sensor is at the side they started with.
This is the front door of a large colour copy/print machine. Within the door is all of the toner bottles as well as hoppers with augers and a pile of gears/shafts. The sensor is in the hopper to tell you when to put another toner bottle in. Without it the machine is scrap.

911 Rod 04-15-2021 11:59 AM

[QUOTE
Don’t know if you have any wiggle room on that 1/2”... pretty close...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618516237.jpg

#1 Philip’s bit in the tool. #0 is a fraction shorter.[/QUOTE]

I have enough room for just the phillips part. No shaft.
I have been putting a 1/4" wrench on bits for access and they are twice the height that I have.

1990C4S 04-15-2021 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic (Post 11298189)

Cut the working end off 1/2" from the tip, plug weld the back end of it into a piece of flat stock with a hole drilled in it. Do the same on the other end, but rotate the X 45 degrees from the first one.

1990C4S 04-15-2021 12:02 PM

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1618516958.jpg

Like this.

911 Rod 04-15-2021 12:11 PM

If I had a welder. I was thinking bubble gum. Would have to use flatstock for a handle.
I ordered the low profile screwdrivers.

1990C4S 04-15-2021 12:15 PM

You could take it somewhere...it's a 30 second job. Or slot it so it can't rotate. Or JB Weld....


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