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vash 05-06-2021 09:58 AM

intermittent fasting.
 
first off, I don't know jacksquat about intermittent fasting.

however, I do know this. if your wife is participating in intermittent fasting, YOU are also participating. haha.

her and her nurse coworkers/friends are doing it. FAACK.

last Saturday was my first day. and you know why? my wife was hungry, and had about 4 hours until she could eat. I went into a well known and famous French bakery and bought one of those delicious French baguette sandos..you know the one. brie cheese, tender prosciutto, tomatoes, and lettuce. she gets back into my truck and I was in half bite. CRUNCH! i'm becoming my dad, because I make noise when I eat. mostly MMMM sounds. then slurped my latte.

the look on her face. hahha.. I wish I had my GoPro filming. she stayed the course and had a sensible chicken arugula salad later.

but i'm shocked how I am getting used to the hunger pangs. sip some tea, work. time flys. I cant wait until her and her nurse buddies stop this S tho. :) wife turns Vegan and i'm out.

vash 05-06-2021 10:04 AM

true story. I had to get my annual blood test today.

tech asks, "how are you doing today?"
"doing well! you?"
"great! you ready for your blood test?"
"yes, I've been studying for about 3 days"
"what? you intermittent fasting?"

curious what my numbers look like. but you can get a bunch of beer down in relatively short duration.

wswartzwel 05-06-2021 10:47 AM

Been doing it since Feb. On week days no breakfast or lunch. only eat supper, and a snack. Dropped from 200lb to 170. I also cut out sugar except for whats in my BEER :). My mountain biking climbing is much stronger and much better in the technical rocky sections. I am 60 years old, and never felt better.

Also I am sharper during the day... if I eat an apple or something around 2:00pm I feel sleepy.. If I don't eat till supper I feel great all day.

Evans, Marv 05-06-2021 11:00 AM

My wife & I have been doing it for about a year now. I had an A1c of 6.5 so was prediabetic. I also gained some visceral fat in the belly region. Kind of krept up on me, since I've never had something like that before. I'm hoping this intermittent fasting thing will eventually get rid of it. I'm not as bad as lots of other guys in general, but it bugs me. The fasting regimen doesn't seem to have helped with that sofar, but my A1c is down to 6.1 last time I tested. I'd like to see if I can get it down into the high 5's if I can. It's been that and cutting out my excess of sugar and sweets, along with moderating my carb & salt intake.
You get used to the change in eating schedule. I get really hungry around 9 to ten o'clock but after that, I loose my hunger. You find you reduce buying certain foods associated with breakfast eating like eggs, bread, butter, jams, bacon (sigh), oatmeal and so on. I don't think I plan on giving it up anytime soon, & my wife likes it. We do have pancakes, eggs, etc. once in a while on Sunday mornings and occassionally go out for breakfast, but that's once a month or so.

RANDY P 05-06-2021 11:04 AM

Look up videos on youtube (bidjo if you're Filipino) on Jason Fung.

He's Canadian tho, so be careful ;)

rjp

Bill Douglas 05-06-2021 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11323035)
delicious French baguette sandos..you know the one. .

You need to be more sensitive to the wife. What I mean is don't eat that in front of her if she is fasting.

Jeeze if I did that I'd end up eating a knuckle sandwich.

She did the fasting thing and quite a few Kg's fell off her.

Vipergrün 05-06-2021 11:24 AM

I started off with a 6 day total fast, just lemon water, dropped 15.5lbs. Been doing intermittent fasting (mainly dinner only) since and along with working out am down almost 40lbs. Eating a lot more green and clean, cut out sweets (for the most part) and drink way less beer and wine, never felt better. During the 6 day fast I had a lot of energy and clarity and would totally do that again. BP was at 157/103 and now in normal ranges.

masraum 05-06-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 11323114)
Look up videos on youtube (bidjo if you're Filipino) on Jason Fung.

He's Canadian tho, so be careful ;)

rjp

Dr Jason Fung. I believe he's an endicrinologist. He has clinics where his primary focus is the treatment of diabetes and obesity. It seems like his main tool is fasting and intermittent fasting. He used to have a ton of free data on his website. I think some of it is still around, but I think most of it is in a book now.
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I've done fasting and intermittent fasting, and it enabled me to lose weight. Intermittent fasting may mean that you eat 3 meals a day, but limit them to an 8-12 hour period. It could mean that you only eat one meal a day with no eating/snacking in between.

The idea is that we eat too frequently these days, like hobbits. Breakfast, mid-morning snack, lunch, elevensies, second lunch, afternoon snack, supper, evening snack, etc.... By eating constantly (and almost everything these days is full of sugar and/or complex carbs) our blood sugar is always high and doesn't self regulate the way it should.
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Originally Posted by Vipergrün (Post 11323128)
I started off with a 6 day total fast, just lemon water, dropped 15.5lbs. Been doing intermittent fasting (mainly dinner only) since and along with working out am down almost 40lbs. Eating a lot more green and clean, cut out sweets (for the most part) and drink way less beer and wine, never felt better. During the 6 day fast I had a lot of energy and clarity and would totally do that again. BP was at 157/103 and now in normal ranges.

Yep, I did similar. I've done 3 days, but not 6. What I used to do was anywhere from 2-3 days of fasting per week. ie, minimum 24 hours (dinner then nothing until the next dinner) or mostly 36 hours, dinner, skip a full day and then breakfast on the third day) and sometimes 48-60 hours. Depending upon what I did, I'd do it 2-3 times per week. I lost weight and felt fine (didn't really notice that I felt better, but I definitel didn't feel worse).

vash 05-06-2021 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Douglas (Post 11323124)
You need to be more sensitive to the wife. What I mean is don't eat that in front of her if she is fasting.

Jeeze if I did that I'd end up eating a knuckle sandwich.

She did the fasting thing and quite a few Kg's fell off her.

I know this now!

I just went home for lunch and made a huge green salad with beets and everything. topped it with seasoned chicken from the grill. we both ate it and it satiated me easily. if anything I am gonna save a krapload of money.

truly the superpower of fasting is it cuts out snacks virtually 100%

masraum 05-06-2021 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11323155)
I know this now!

I just went home for lunch and made a huge green salad with beets and everything. topped it with seasoned chicken from the grill. we both ate it and it satiated me easily. if anything I am gonna save a krapload of money.

truly the superpower of fasting is it cuts out snacks virtually 100%

That's the deal. Dr Fung says that obesity and diabetes weren't prevalent back in the day, but that back in the day, people also had 3 meals with NO extra snacking. You ate breakfast, lunch and dinner, and other than those three times, you didn't eat (or have 1000 calorie coffee drinks) in between or after those meals.

vash 05-06-2021 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11323163)
(or have 1000 calorie coffee drinks) .

no kidding. our office front desk lady, I love her, but she drinks essentially two milkshakes a day. calls it coffee. her life, not mine.

wdfifteen 05-06-2021 12:03 PM

I tried it for a while and I don't know why I haven't kept it up. I liked the feeling of being empty every now and then.

Evans, Marv 05-06-2021 12:20 PM

Yeah, you get comfortable with an empty feeling and can feel all loaded up after eating a decent sized meal. I only weigh 170, & haven't really dropped any weight. I was down to 167 for a very short time. If I dropped 40 lbs., I'd be a walking skeleton.

svandamme 05-06-2021 12:44 PM

I Do intermitted fasting, mostly while I sleep and/or nap

cabmandone 05-06-2021 12:48 PM

I prefer intuitive eating. It's better for you and you don't have the issues with being hungry and thinking about when you can eat next.

svandamme 05-06-2021 12:58 PM

i combine intuitive eating with intermitted fasting, get the best of both worlds.

KFC911 05-06-2021 01:30 PM

I have been known to fast between meals and one time I skipped lunch.... does that count :D?

vash 05-06-2021 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11323234)
I Do intermitted fasting, mostly while I sleep and/or nap

I am getting 14 hours of sleep each night now. THC sleeping gummies are not considered food.

IROC 05-06-2021 03:14 PM

I’ve been doing it for about 10 years now. I started doing it before I was aware it was a “thing”. I drink a couple of cups of coffee at around 6:00, go to work and don’t eat anything until dinner. I’ll eat more regularly on the weekends but usually a late breakfast and then dinner and that’s all.

I did it primarily because as I’ve gotten older (I’m 56) I’ve found I just don’t need to eat as much. So I don’t. I weighed myself this morning. I weighed 214 (I’m 6’3”). When I played football in high school I weighed 215.

I feel great and my blood work is perfect every year. Works for me.

Tobra 05-06-2021 03:24 PM

I just don't eat unless I am hungry

Bugsinrugs 05-06-2021 05:56 PM

When I’m occupied I never think of food. When I was working the only meal for me was dinner. Since I retired I tend to snack more but still I don’t consume a lot. 6’3 and 175lbs.

RANDY P 05-06-2021 07:18 PM

Check this out- Russian fasting treatments, interesting info.

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Roswell 05-07-2021 01:07 AM

I am getting 14 hours of sleep each night now. THC sleeping gummies are not considered food.

This needs to be a topic of its own thread. Gummies are by far the best sleep aid I have found .

ckelly78z 05-07-2021 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11323296)
I am getting 14 hours of sleep each night now. THC sleeping gummies are not considered food.

How on earth do you get 14 hours of sleep every night ? I tend to go to bed at 9:30-10 pm, and answer my 4:30 AM alarm for another busy day....If I sit down for any length of time in the evening, my eyes get real heavy.

I only have an available 7 hours to sleep !

vtsunshine 05-07-2021 06:11 AM

I've had luck with IF over the years, but I've never been able to make it stick as a lifestyle. I always go back to 3 meals a day after the novelty of IF wears off.

masraum 05-07-2021 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by vtsunshine (Post 11323846)
I've had luck with IF over the years, but I've never been able to make it stick as a lifestyle. I always go back to 3 meals a day after the novelty of IF wears off.

Technically, 3 meals a day could be considered IF assuming you have breakfast, lunch, dinner, and don't have other snacks and food before those three (no giant coffee full of cream and sugar hours before breakfast and no huge snack before bed or hours after dinner. Even a 12/12 schedule could be considered IF (12 hours with 3 meals and then 12 hours of no food or calories).

masraum 05-07-2021 06:18 AM

Another thing that I've ready over and over again, and even seen tested to some extent. Our blood sugar spikes after meals. Then it recovers back to normal levels. What I've read is that it recovers more quickly in the morning and the recovery slows throughout the day. So have your big meal early, and or, your meal with the most simple sugars (sugar, syrup, jelly/jam, etc...). Have a decent sized lunch, and some simple sugars are OK, but don't go crazy, maybe some fruit, but try to have it before noon. For dinner have a smaller meal and restrict your simple and complex carbs at dinner.

vtsunshine 05-07-2021 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11323857)
Another thing that I've ready over and over again, and even seen tested to some extent. Our blood sugar spikes after meals. Then it recovers back to normal levels. What I've read is that it recovers more quickly in the morning and the recovery slows throughout the day. So have your big meal early, and or, your meal with the most simple sugars (sugar, syrup, jelly/jam, etc...). Have a decent sized lunch, and some simple sugars are OK, but don't go crazy, maybe some fruit, but try to have it before noon. For dinner have a smaller meal and restrict your simple and complex carbs at dinner.

I think you're right on money with the sugar spike. When following an IF where I wouldn't eat until 4pm, my mornings and afternoons were much more even keeled with energy and mood.

masraum 05-07-2021 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by vtsunshine (Post 11323860)
I think you're right on money with the sugar spike. When following an IF where I wouldn't eat until 4pm, my mornings and afternoons were much more even keeled with energy and mood.

It's interesting, you hear lots of folks these day say things like "I need to eat something, my blood sugar is low." If they are diabetics, sure, absolutely, but I hear lots of folks say that.

I was curious about blood sugar, and what it did and what was BS and what wasn't so I bought an inexpensive monitor and checked it to see if I could see a pattern. (I'm not diabetic, and my BMI ranges between 23.5 and 25. I'm 6'2" and (now) 192-195 (thanks covid).

There were days that I'd test my blood sugar 10-15 times a day. Sometimes every 10-15 mins after a meal for 1-2 hours, plus before and after other meals, when I first got up and before I went to bed. I'd test while fasting which at times included 24-48 hour fasts. My blood sugar was never "low." Most of the time it was 85-100 if it had been several hours or even 24 or 36 or 48 hours since I'd eaten. Right after I ate, it could spike to anywhere between 125 and 165 depending upon what I'd eaten, and presumably, when I tested. But it always went back to "normal" within 2-4 hours.

vash 05-07-2021 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 11323697)
How on earth do you get 14 hours of sleep every night ? I tend to go to bed at 9:30-10 pm, and answer my 4:30 AM alarm for another busy day....If I sit down for any length of time in the evening, my eyes get real heavy.

I only have an available 7 hours to sleep !

that entire response was supposed to be in GREEN. making jokes.

masraum 05-07-2021 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11323962)
that entire response was supposed to be in GREEN. making jokes.

Right, we all know that the only time that you sleep for 14 hours is if you pass out in the kayak or helping the new neighbors unpack their unmentionables.

Crowbob 05-07-2021 08:52 AM

Is ‘intermittent fasting’ code for ‘eating less’?

svandamme 05-07-2021 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 11324032)
Is ‘intermittent fasting’ code for ‘eating less’?

yes during the fasting you'll be eating less then outside of the fasting phase..
I can back that up with scientific data

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masraum 05-07-2021 09:39 AM

of course "eating less" could mean small portions many times a day that would result in eating less, but would NOT be intermittent fasting.

svandamme 05-07-2021 10:25 AM

now where's the fun in that!?!

vash 05-11-2021 02:09 PM

super funny.

my wife threw down the gauntlet. she said, "24 hours".

okay, so I stuff a California Super Beef burrito into my face, and cruise. (I actually felt sick, but whatever). I am staring at the deadline. my wife got called into an emergency nurse thing!! FAACK!

do I eat without her? I should have cleared up the rules of food engagement here, but no.

I am hungry for sure!! but I am shocked the full day went pretty quickly.

masraum 05-11-2021 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 11328581)
super funny.

my wife threw down the gauntlet. she said, "24 hours".

okay, so I stuff a California Super Beef burrito into my face, and cruise. (I actually felt sick, but whatever). I am staring at the deadline. my wife got called into an emergency nurse thing!! FAACK!

do I eat without her? I should have cleared up the rules of food engagement here, but no.

I am hungry for sure!! but I am shocked the full day went pretty quickly.

she's expecting you to fast without her.

Your best bet is to drink lots of water.

aigel 05-11-2021 03:58 PM

I think it makes sense to not eat for a few hours before bed and I also like exercise before eating in the morning. But I would not sign up for a 16 hour fast every day and such. Not sustainable and can lead to eating disorders.

The best thing is to eat smaller portions and go easy processed foods and sugar.

G

Superman 05-11-2021 05:06 PM

I fast intermittently every day. Between breakfast and lunch, between lunch and dinner, and between dinner and bed time.

But seriously folks....fasting gets easier the more you do it. It is a matter of setting aside selfishness. Exerting conscious control over your desires.

Jeff Hail 05-11-2021 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RANDY P (Post 11323114)
Look up videos on youtube (bidjo if you're Filipino) on Jason Fung.

He's Canadian tho, so be careful ;)

rjp

I follow Jason Fung. He has very good insight on fasting, glucose, carbs and general nutrition. His common sense approach is funny. I recommend his videos and the book The Complete Guide to Fasting by Fung and Moore to anyone giving intermittent fasting a try. It s a great resource and will answer many questions anyone may have.

I just came off a 4 day fast (water only and a daily multi-vitamin).

Aye


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