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drcoastline 06-24-2021 02:23 AM

mRNA vaccine inventor speaks out, YouTube deletes video discussing risks
 
'The government is not being transparent with us about what those risks are,' said Dr. Robert Malone

As colleges issue controversial mandates that students be vaccinated or not attend classes, and reports surfaced of numerous deaths potentially caused by the various coronavirus vaccines, the inventor of the mRNA technology that went into some of the vaccines told Fox News on Wednesday that Google-owned YouTube deleted a posting of a podcast during which he discussed his concerns and findings.

As "Tucker Carlson Tonight" host Tucker Carlson noted, Dr. Robert Malone is "the single most qualified" expert on mRNA vaccines, but that the Big Tech companies are asserting themselves as more informed than him on the topic.

"A Norwegian study conducted of 100 nursing home residents who died after receiving Pfizer's Corona shots. They found that at least ten of those deaths were likely caused by the vaccine. 10%," said Carlson.

Meanwhile, the New York Post reported that researchers found a link between rare cases of juvenile heart inflammation and vaccines from Pfizer and Moderna, which utilize the mRNA route.

"Young adults in the prime of their lives are being forced to take the vaccine because Tony Fauci said that," Carlson said, adding that Malone "has a right to speak," given his expertise.

"[O]ne of my concerns are that the government is not being transparent with us about what those risks are. And so, I am of the opinion that people have the right to decide whether to accept vaccines or not, especially since these are experimental vaccines," Dr. Malone said, pointing to the fact the vaccines are not formally approved but instead being administered under Emergency Use Authorization.

"This is a fundamental right having to do with clinical research ethics," he said. "And so, my concern is that I know that there are risks. But we don't have access to the data and the data haven't been captured rigorously enough so that we can accurately assess those risks – And therefore … we don't really have the information that we need to make a reasonable decision."

Malone said that in the case of younger Americans, he "has a bias that the benefits probably don't outweigh the risks in that cohort."

But, he noted there is no substantive risk-benefit analysis being applied to the vaccines.

"That is one of my other objections, that we talk about these words risk-benefit analysis casually as if it is very deep science. It's not. Normally at this stage, the CDC would have performed those risk-benefit analyses and they would be database and science-based. They are not right now," said Malone.

"I can say that the risk-benefit ratio for those 18 and below doesn't justify vaccines and there's a pretty good chance that it doesn't justify vaccination in these very young adults."

Students at Indiana University in Bloomington, Ind., retained counsel to sue the school this week over its vaccine mandate, while in Annapolis, Md., students in the University of Maryland system protested last month against a blanket vaccine mandate there.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/tucker-carlson-mrna-vaccine-inventor

wilnj 06-24-2021 02:48 AM

Why is this type of story only covered by Fox on their opinion platform? If the editors at Fox believes this to be as earth shattering as Carlson makes it out to be, why wouldn’t this garner the same sort of attention that Fox’s daily update of how many days it’s been since Harris got tapped as the border czar?


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onewhippedpuppy 06-24-2021 02:57 AM

Big tech censorship? That would NEVER happen!:rolleyes: Obviously this doctor needs to consult real experts like Bill Gates.

I don’t know a single person who has died of CV. I know plenty of people that have tested positive and a handful that have had flu like symptoms that resolved on a few days. I know far more people who became seriously ill after being vaccinated. One of my sister in law’s neighbors died 24 hours after receiving his from blood clots. Nope.

cabmandone 06-24-2021 03:16 AM

If the spike protein is cytotoxic as he claims wouldn't the risk of getting covid and the risk associated with the vaccine be roughly the same? Also if the vaccine causes blood clots and the virus causes blood clots wouldn't the risk again be the same? I'd like to know which risk associated with the vaccine is different than the risks associated with getting covid.

And another thing, why isn't Fox News devoting airtime to let this guy get his entire message out? You can stream FN as well as get it through most cable providers. I'd think something this important would be worth some airtime.

And Matt, I think you're pretty lucky. I don't know that many people but I know 4 that died as a result of getting covid.

ted 06-24-2021 03:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11371051)
I don’t know a single person who has died of CV.

The global weekly average is about 10,000 unvaccinated people a day die from the virus.
If you knew any of them would it make a difference, or is is it just since you didn't know any of them their deaths don't matter?
What does it matter how many that die you knew personally?

IROC 06-24-2021 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11371051)
I don’t know a single person who has died of CV.

Consider yourself fortunate. I know several. But that is only relevant to individual perceptions. The reality is that over 600k people have died as a result of the virus in the US alone. You are most likely guilty of (or suffer from) confirmation bias or the fallacy of small sample sizes.

911_Dude 06-24-2021 03:31 AM

This is anti-vax BS. mRNA vaccines are safe and a huge advancement of medical tech. Dont listen to this crap.

ChairmanMao 06-24-2021 03:40 AM

Ask these fools if they would reject Polio and Smallpox vaccines, and the answer is yes
Ask them what polio is, and they might just answer, what is polio ?

Darwin is hard at work

cabmandone 06-24-2021 04:13 AM

One more thing, If the vaccine can cause myocarditis in teens and the vaccine mimics the spike protein of the virus, wouldn't the risk associate with the vaccine and the risk associated with the virus again be the same?

jyl 06-24-2021 04:51 AM

I have been reading about the history of developing mRNA vaccines. There is a Hungarian woman who could potentially get a Nobel for it. https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/ I recommend reading that.

So imagine my surprise at seeing this post. Who is this “inventor of the mRNA vaccine” Malone guy who I’ve not read about?

Well, I have not found any mention of him except as the self-declared self-promoted “inventor” and in countless crackpot websites, and now I guess in Fox News.

Try it. Google “Dr Robert Malone mRNA” and come back and tell us what his role really was in developing today’s mRNA vaccines.

I swear, some of you are so gullible, I’d think you were 8 years old.

jyl 06-24-2021 04:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11371094)
One more thing, If the vaccine can cause myocarditis in teens and the vaccine mimics the spike protein of the virus, wouldn't the risk associate with the vaccine and the risk associated with the virus again be the same?

The spike protein is what the virus used to enter a cell. It is not how the virus replicates in the cell. Viruses do damage by replicating. If a thousand virus particles get into you, that doesn’t harm you. It is when they replicate to millions and billions that your body gets damaged.

Basically, the spike protein is the lockpick and the rest of the virus is the burglar. Without the burglar, the pick doesn’t harm.

cabmandone 06-24-2021 05:10 AM

He can't possibly be the creator of the mRNA vaccine! I was! Just ask me I'll tell you.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-24-2021 05:36 AM

Who knew the 1st Amendment would be weaponized to execute the downfall of the United States.

Khrushchev, prescient.

vmax 06-24-2021 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11371122)
I have been reading about the history of developing mRNA vaccines. There is a Hungarian woman who could potentially get a Nobel for it. https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/ I recommend reading that.

So imagine my surprise at seeing this post. Who is this “inventor of the mRNA vaccine” Malone guy who I’ve not read about?

Well, I have not found any mention of him except as the self-declared self-promoted “inventor” and in countless crackpot websites, and now I guess in Fox News.

Try it. Google “Dr Robert Malone mRNA” and come back and tell us what his role really was in developing today’s mRNA vaccines.

I swear, some of you are so gullible, I’d think you were 8 years old.

You might want to read this:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/history-how-mrna-vaccines-were-discovered-jill-glasspool-malone-phd

Dpmulvan 06-24-2021 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11371122)
I have been reading about the history of developing mRNA vaccines. There is a Hungarian woman who could potentially get a Nobel for it. https://www.statnews.com/2020/11/10/the-story-of-mrna-how-a-once-dismissed-idea-became-a-leading-technology-in-the-covid-vaccine-race/ I recommend reading that.

So imagine my surprise at seeing this post. Who is this “inventor of the mRNA vaccine” Malone guy who I’ve not read about?

Well, I have not found any mention of him except as the self-declared self-promoted “inventor” and in countless crackpot websites, and now I guess in Fox News.

Try it. Google “Dr Robert Malone mRNA” and come back and tell us what his role really was in developing today’s mRNA vaccines.

I swear, some of you are so gullible, I’d think you were 8 years old.

Google it ahahahahah

Dpmulvan 06-24-2021 05:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11371157)
Who knew the 1st Amendment would be weaponized to execute the downfall of the United States.

Khrushchev, prescient.

Did you get that quote from google or wilkapedia.

cabmandone 06-24-2021 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vmax (Post 11371166)

"Written by Jill Glasspool Malone... President at RW Malone"

Take a guess what RW Malone is and who Jill is married to.

Now, find me a real paper that states he's the inventor of the mRNA vaccine. Until then, I'm the inventor of the mRNA vaccine... because I said so. And if I said so doesn't work, I'll have my wife tell you I am!

cockerpunk 06-24-2021 06:23 AM

its because the guy is a quack.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-24-2021 06:33 AM

Qanon folks have shown up. Awesome!

wdfifteen 06-24-2021 07:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11371157)
Who knew the 1st Amendment would be weaponized to execute the downfall of the United States.

Khrushchev, prescient.


“The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them.”
― Vladimir Ilich Lenin

Lenin is so 20th century. It's going to be media (including social media), not rope.

onewhippedpuppy 06-24-2021 07:36 AM

It will never cease to amaze me how people at very low risk for actually dying from CV are not only happily lining up to take an experimental vaccine developed in a very short timeframe with minimal testing, but chastising others who make the opposite decision. I don’t judge people either way, there’s pros and cons to everything in life.

cockerpunk 06-24-2021 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11371258)
It will never cease to amaze me how people at very low risk for actually dying from CV are not only happily lining up to take an experimental vaccine developed in a very short timeframe with minimal testing, but chastising others who make the opposite decision. I don’t judge people either way, there’s pros and cons to everything in life.

almost all of this post is wrong.

Steve Carlton 06-24-2021 07:41 AM

I refuse to use a parachute when jumping out of a plane. There could be problems.

onewhippedpuppy 06-24-2021 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 11371261)
almost all of this post is wrong.

As usual, a well substantiated retort!

cockerpunk 06-24-2021 07:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11371264)
As usual, a well substantiated retort!

it doesn't deserve any more than that.

Arizona_928 06-24-2021 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 11371265)
it doesn't deserve any more than that.

Little early to be hitting the sauce mr. layhey

Bob Kontak 06-24-2021 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11371267)
Little early to be hitting the sauce mr. layhey

This guy?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1624550900.jpg

onewhippedpuppy 06-24-2021 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 11371265)
it doesn't deserve any more than that.

Smart assed sarcasm takes zero rational thought. But good try.

3rd_gear_Ted 06-24-2021 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11371258)
It will never cease to amaze me how people at very low risk for actually dying from CV are not only happily lining up to take an experimental vaccine developed in a very short timeframe with minimal testing, but chastising others who make the opposite decision. I don’t judge people either way, there’s pros and cons to everything in life.

"Chastising others who make the opposite decision" is counter to the conservative logic of the past, which was for the most part, doing things "for the good of our country"

The disinformation level in our society about a subject is about the same as the truth is within a narrow context, this in turn means anything can be misconstrued to whatever way you think the wind blows.

As a 6 year old I asked questions about the Polio vaccine and the Nun said she'd beat my bare ass if I didn't "get with the program"

The Nun's attitude in my analogy is now applied in an opposite sense for every newly woke conservative here in the PARF world.

As they say, how things have changed. Talk about who has become Woke, its everybody about everything.

peace, love & fish tacos to all.

cockerpunk 06-24-2021 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11371385)
Smart assed sarcasm takes zero rational thought. But good try.

are you admitting your first comment was sarcasm?

Arizona_928 06-24-2021 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11371283)

;)

onewhippedpuppy 06-24-2021 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 11371398)
are you admitting your first comment was sarcasm?

No, I’m waiting for you to contribute some shred of original thought to this thread. Or for that matter, this forum. Instead you post snarky poorly written short sentences that mask your apparent inability to actually think critically.

cockerpunk 06-24-2021 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11371407)
No, I’m waiting for you to contribute some shred of original thought to this thread. Or for that matter, this forum. Instead you post snarky poorly written short sentences that mask your apparent inability to actually think critically.

this wasn't posted ironically, about your first post in this thread?

everything you stated about the covid19 vaccine has been widely debunked, and doesn't need to be repeated here, again, for a millionth time. you've seen it dozens of times, there is no need for us to do it again. the vaccine is safe, it was developed and tested thoroughly, is currently in about half of all americans, with wildly low side effects, and is leading to the covid-19 cases falling to wildly low numbers, and if you take into account only the vaccinated, the pandemic is actually totally over. the only thing keeping the pandemic going is the unvaccinated who make up the VAST majority of new cases.

those are the facts. i know your going to say a bunch of dumb **** in response. but the real world doesn't care about your little hissy fit. your hissy fit doesn't deserve a response. 600+ thousand americans are dead, and your having a little hissy fit. grow up.

pavulon 06-24-2021 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy (Post 11371407)
No, I’m waiting for you to contribute some shred of original thought to this thread. Or for that matter, this forum. Instead you post snarky poorly written short sentences that mask your apparent inability to actually think critically.

This ^^ from somone in Kansas who posts "I don’t know a single person who has died of CV." That's some amazing reasoning. Seems unlikely that you knew no Americans who died in the Revolutionary, Civil, WWI, WWII, Korean or Vietnam wars so they must have been nothing to be worried about either.

Aurel 06-24-2021 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11371157)
Who knew the 1st amendment would be weaponized to execute the downfall of the United States.

Khrushchev, prescient.

I would rather say ‘who knew the bat coronavirus would be weaponized to execute the downfall of the United States’.

Tervuren 06-24-2021 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton (Post 11371262)
I refuse to use a parachute when jumping out of a plane. There could be problems.

It's more like jumping out of an airplane with an untested parachute design versus riding an untested airplane down to a landing on the runway.

Either one is dealing with unknowns.

cockerpunk 06-24-2021 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 11371491)
It's more like jumping out of an airplane with an untested parachute versus riding the airplane down to the runway, where it will likely land safely.

Either way can end safely for a lot of people.

again, the vaccine has been tested thoroughly, and is currently in about 200 million americans bodies. and hundreds of millions of other countries people's bodies.

the vaccine has been, and currently is, thoroughly tested.

Z-man 06-24-2021 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11371184)
"Written by Jill Glasspool Malone... President at RW Malone"

Take a guess what RW Malone is and who Jill is married to.

Now, find me a real paper that states he's the inventor of the mRNA vaccine. Until then, I'm the inventor of the mRNA vaccine... because I said so. And if I said so doesn't work, I'll have my wife tell you I am!

I am calling you out, cabmando - you did not invent the mRNA vaccine.

Everyone knows who invented it. And it wasn't Bill Gates, or Malone, or the Orange Yam.

Soon after he invented the internet, Al Gore was busy at work developing the mRNA vaccine. It required a lot of power, which is why his electric consumption in his mansion was greater than a small nation's annual output. Al Gore. He's behind it.
Google it.

onewhippedpuppy 06-24-2021 11:09 AM

There we go, Manbearpig did it.

You kids have fun with copy/pasting the PSAs from social media about the “fully tested” vaccine that was developed in 1/5 of the time as a regular vaccine using experimental genetic technology and is being administered under an emergency authorization, not an full FDA approval. And the fact that many people have gotten sick or died which is actively suppressed by social media and search engines like Google. If you don’t believe me, try doing the same search with Google and their “cultivated” results and a search engine like Duck Duck Go that doesn’t manipulate the results. But I’m sure they’re all doing that for our own good, right? I mean hiding the truth from the public is fine, right? If the truth is being actively suppressed, how do you really know what percentage of the vaccinated are getting sick?

Aurel 06-24-2021 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 11371283)

Hey buddy!


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