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Crowbob 07-21-2021 05:34 PM

The Wright Flyer first flew on 12/17/1903. Considering it was 4/12/61 when Yuri Gagarin became the first human to reach space, it seems to me space flight should have advanced allot further the second 60 years, than it did the first 60 years. I mean, everything else has.

Spaceflight, if you think about it, has pretty much gone nowhere since the Eagle landed on 7/20/69.

These egotistical sub-orbital junkets by rich guys aren’t testaments to human ingenuity.

They are testaments to indulgence.

Much like mega-yachts, IMO. More power to ’em, I ‘spose.

flatbutt 07-21-2021 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 11399513)
Hey! Don't forget Red Bull guy- :)

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I was absolutely spell bound by his jump.

herr_oberst 07-21-2021 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11399394)
I forgot about Mad Mike. Boy, that landing was a mofo!

https://twitter.com/justindchapman/status/1231336002175717376

Holy mackerel! I remember the story but I never saw the video. The body language of the foreground photographer tells the whole story..

Joe Bob 07-21-2021 05:43 PM

Mad Mike looks like he bought that rig from the ACME Rocket Design Co of the Road Runner fame.

RWebb 07-21-2021 05:55 PM

Where did bezos get that coboy hat?

Tervuren 07-21-2021 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 11399564)
The Wright Flyer first flew on 12/17/1903. Considering it was 4/12/61 when Yuri Gagarin became the first human to reach space, it seems to me space flight should have advanced allot further the second 60 years, than it did the first 60 years. I mean, everything else has.

Spaceflight, if you think about it, has pretty much gone nowhere since the Eagle landed on 7/20/69.

These egotistical sub-orbital junkets by rich guys aren’t testaments to human ingenuity.

They are testaments to indulgence.

Much like mega-yachts, IMO. More power to ’em, I ‘spose.

I might have to dig it up.
But some where there is the Vice President speaking to mission control on the start of the last Apollo mission.
An ugly paraphrase,
It's more effective to bleed voter's hearts with social engineering for our political campaign's profit; so this successy type stuff can't be happening.

There are inventions on these new craft btw.
And good on them for putting some of their resources into this.

Zeke 07-21-2021 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 11399564)
The Wright Flyer first flew on 12/17/1903. Considering it was 4/12/61 when Yuri Gagarin became the first human to reach space, it seems to me space flight should have advanced allot further the second 60 years, than it did the first 60 years. I mean, everything else has.

Spaceflight, if you think about it, has pretty much gone nowhere since the Eagle landed on 7/20/69.

These egotistical sub-orbital junkets by rich guys aren’t testaments to human ingenuity.

They are testaments to indulgence.

Much like mega-yachts, IMO. More power to ’em, I ‘spose.

Except they land the rockets now and reuse them. NASA didn't quite get that far.

What does the suffix Naut mean?
The combining form -naut is used like a suffix indicating a person engaged in the navigation of a vehicle. The form -naut ultimately comes from the Greek naútēs, meaning “sailor.” The word nautical, meaning “relating to sailors, ships, and navigation,” is closely related to the combining form –naut.


There are 41 words that end with NAUT. Scrabble recognizes 29 of them. One of them is "infonaut." What kind of vehicle is that?

It's all for naut.

island911 07-21-2021 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11399651)
Except they land the rockets now and reuse them. NASA didn't quite get that far.

Except for the rocket landing on the moon 52 years ago (Lunar lander) and the Space Shuttle rocket fuel tank that landed in the ocean for reuse.

Personally, while I think that the rocket landing is cool as hell to watch, it's a bit ridiculous when there is a thick atmosphere to leverage for drag. (chute)

And, BTW, because those returning boosters have to have extra fuel on board (weight) they can not return (with a rocket landing) if escape velocity is desired.

IOW, NASA did not lack any technical ability to do what these guys are doing. Engineers look for efficiencies. Rich guys look for interesting solutions.

island911 07-21-2021 07:29 PM

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sc_rufctr 07-21-2021 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 11399589)
Where did bezos get that coboy hat?

Being well worn I'd say it was his from a couple of decades ago.

dad911 07-21-2021 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 11399394)
I forgot about Mad Mike. Boy, that landing was a mofo!

https://twitter.com/justindchapman/status/1231336002175717376

Mad Mike was only trying to get to 5000 feet. Private planes fly higher.

ckelly78z 07-22-2021 02:44 AM

While it is great for the morale of a dying country, they should have been labeled temporary passengers instead of astronauts...somehow, they don't quite measure up to the ingenuity, and resourcefulness of being on the same scale as the heroes from Apollo 13.

Bob Kontak 07-22-2021 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 11399784)
While it is great for the morale of a dying country, they should have been labeled temporary passengers instead of astronauts...somehow, they don't quite measure up to the ingenuity, and resourcefulness of being on the same scale as the heroes from Apollo 13.

Those guys are "Like a boss" astronauts. They were not even half way to the moon when they stirred that tank and it blew.

Separate but similar, Armstrong was asked about only having 20 seconds of fuel left and he said something like, "That's overblown, it was more like 30 or 40 seconds left."

Tervuren 07-22-2021 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11399651)
Except they land the rockets now and reuse them. NASA didn't quite get that far.

What does the suffix Naut mean?
The combining form -naut is used like a suffix indicating a person engaged in the navigation of a vehicle. The form -naut ultimately comes from the Greek naútēs, meaning “sailor.” The word nautical, meaning “relating to sailors, ships, and navigation,” is closely related to the combining form –naut.


There are 41 words that end with NAUT. Scrabble recognizes 29 of them. One of them is "infonaut." What kind of vehicle is that?

It's all for naut.

Interesting.
That means ground control should be astronauts. SmileWavy

Quote:

Originally Posted by ckelly78z (Post 11399784)
While it is great for the morale of a dying country, they should have been labeled temporary passengers instead of astronauts...somehow, they don't quite measure up to the ingenuity, and resourcefulness of being on the same scale as the heroes from Apollo 13.

Do you apply the same standard to mission specialists on the shuttle?

berettafan 07-22-2021 05:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 11399513)
Hey! Don't forget Red Bull guy- :)

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far, far cooler than the flying penis.

craigster59 07-22-2021 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 11399713)
Mad Mike was only trying to get to 5000 feet. Private planes fly higher.

He was also apparently a "flat earther" and wanted to prove his theory. I guess he found out it was actually round with a brand new dent out by Barstow.

Zeke 07-22-2021 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11399666)
Except for the rocket landing on the moon 52 years ago (Lunar lander) and the Space Shuttle rocket fuel tank that landed in the ocean for reuse.

Personally, while I think that the rocket landing is cool as hell to watch, it's a bit ridiculous when there is a thick atmosphere to leverage for drag. (chute)

And, BTW, because those returning boosters have to have extra fuel on board (weight) they can not return (with a rocket landing) if escape velocity is desired.

IOW, NASA did not lack any technical ability to do what these guys are doing. Engineers look for efficiencies. Rich guys look for interesting solutions.

Not buying that. Show me proof. Yes, the lunar lander did precede today's landings. However the gravity factor was in favor of the moon landing as well as the light payload. And they weren't exactly sure where they were going to touch down. Only close.

Progress has been made using private funds.

GH85Carrera 07-22-2021 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11399448)
The good news is he made it back to earth. The bad news is he didn’t live to tell the tale.

It takes a Saturn 5 size rocket to get humans free of Earth's gravity. Even the space station and every satellite in orbit today will eventually fall to Earth. Only the small parts of Saturn 5 made it to the moon, and the many robots probes we have sent to other planets and beyond with Voyager are free of the earth.

The moon will eventually leave orbit in many billions of years. It will take all the Apollo artifacts with it. It may well be the only thing future civilizations find of humanity.

island911 07-22-2021 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11399930)
Not buying that. Show me proof. Yes, the lunar lander did precede today's landings. However the gravity factor was in favor of the moon landing as well as the light payload. And they weren't exactly sure where they were going to touch down. Only close.

Progress has been made using private funds.

gravity factor? That is but a scale number. AND the training -using thrust landings- was done on earth.

The computer was going to land the Eagle at a specific spot. Armstrong took over the controls when he could see the terrain close up.

island911 07-22-2021 06:34 AM

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