What should consequences be for those that decline the vax?

[Rikao4]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

Do other countries have the same amount of conspiracy theory wingnuts as the U.S.? It seems like a fad, like the pet rock, but it's really the destruction of our republic.

no theories needed.
we see them on I-35 N underpasses all day long..
so while a Delta variant spewing Van isn't cruising about in Florida or Texas..
there sure are a scheisse load of sick folks coming across the river...
every day and more on Sunday..
the Walking Covid's..
that's no theory..
that is a fact..


Rika

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by Fast Freddy 944

Vacc dont work, this is a nightmare we are living in....

You continue to post this 'fact', you also claim that it 'gave you shingles'. Should we take your word for it, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary?

Can you post something to back up your unfounded statements? Otherwise my response is the same as yours in another thread: 'lol'.

[group911@aol.co]

Walking across the river to Florida?

Originally Posted by Rikao4

no theories needed.
we see them on I-35 N underpasses all day long..
so while a Delta variant spewing Van isn't cruising about in Florida or Texas..
there sure are a scheisse load of sick folks coming across the river...
every day and more on Sunday..
the Walking Covid's..
that's no theory..
that is a fact..


Rika

[Rikao4]

Originally Posted by group911@aol.co

Walking across the river to Florida?

we'll let me help ya..
I'm in Texas...
so yes there is a River..
you can see them coming across in droves..
on the Tele all day long if you want..
as for getting them into Florida and other states..
our very own Airforce has already admitted to this..
as they ran out of Buses to do so..
and for just grins..
when interviewed..
we're ya headed..
Florida was a popular choice..

Rika

[group911@aol.co]

Well, of Qourse it was.

Originally Posted by Rikao4

we'll let me help ya..
I'm in Texas...
so yes there is a River..
you can see them coming across in droves..
on the Tele all day long if you want..
as for getting them into Florida and other states..
our very own Airforce has already admitted to this..
as they ran out of Buses to do so..
and for just grins..
when interviewed..
we're ya headed..
Florida was a popular choice..

Rika

[javadog]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

You continue to post this 'fact', you also claim that it 'gave you shingles'. Should we take your word for it, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary?

Can you post something to back up your unfounded statements? Otherwise my response is the same as yours in another thread: 'lol'.

There is some correlation between the two, it would seem, but no causation has been established. I know of people that had a bout of Covid, then that was followed up by a bout of shingles. I think researchers are starting to look at it, to see what connection might be there, if any.

Perhaps the COVID virus affects the immune system in a way that weakens the ability to keep the shingles virus at bay.

Give them time, they’ll figure it out.

[pmax]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

You continue to post this 'fact', you also claim that it 'gave you shingles'. Should we take your word for it, even in the face of incontrovertible evidence to the contrary?

Can you post something to back up your unfounded statements? Otherwise my response is the same as yours in another thread: 'lol'.

At that level of effectiveness, these are no longer vaccines.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.21261707v2

Also means a lot more of the vaccinated are walking around infected spreading the virus that we thought was the case.

[gordner]

That supports the vax working.

Why not circle in red the part that says "Both vaccines were highly effective during this study period..."

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by pmax

At that level of effectiveness, these are no longer vaccines.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.06.21261707v2

Also means a lot more of the vaccinated are walking around infected spreading the virus that we thought was the case.

You are quoting numbers related to 'effectiveness against infection'. The vast vast majority of people who are sick or hospitalized are NOT vaccinated. How do you explain those numbers?

But the vaccine 'doesn't work'. Okay, got it.

[1990C4S]

Originally Posted by javadog

There is some correlation between the two, it would seem, but no causation has been established. I know of people that had a bout of Covid, then that was followed up by a bout of shingles. I think researchers are starting to look at it, to see what connection might be there, if any.

Perhaps the COVID virus affects the immune system in a way that weakens the ability to keep the shingles virus at bay.

Give them time, they’ll figure it out.

Perhaps a lot of things. Zero evidence that the Covid vaccine gave anyone shingles. Possible? Yes. A statement of fact? No. So word it that way.

People get shingles all the time. Correlating it to a vaccine isn't done by speculation.

I stubbed my toe a week after I got the vaccine, the cause of the injury is clear to me.

[Arizona_928]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

You are quoting numbers related to 'effectiveness against infection'. The vast vast majority of people who are sick or hospitalized are NOT vaccinated. How do you explain those numbers?

But the vaccine 'doesn't work'. Okay, got it.

Small population over numbers. so they get published to scare the herd into doing something/going into a direction that they want.


propaganda.....

[pmax]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

You are quoting numbers related to 'effectiveness against infection'. The vast vast majority of people who are sick or hospitalized are NOT vaccinated. How do you explain those numbers?

But the vaccine 'doesn't work'. Okay, got it.

That’s where the second sentence in my previous reply comes into play, did you miss it ?

The last thing you wanna be is a walking COVID spreader.

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by 1990C4S

You are quoting numbers related to 'effectiveness against infection'. The vast vast majority of people who are sick or hospitalized are NOT vaccinated. How do you explain those numbers?

But the vaccine 'doesn't work'. Okay, got it.

Look at the experience in countries where cases were low to the point of being non existent, they started the jab, cases and deaths skyrocket. Taiwan and Fiji are good examples of this

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Look at the experience in countries where cases were low to the point of being non existent, they started the jab, cases and deaths skyrocket. Taiwan and Fiji are good examples of this

Taiwan has 2.3% of it's population vaccinated. Fiji at 20.1%.

They avoided the earlier rounds so no one has any natural immunity. Delta is rolling through them.

[mattdavis11]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

They avoided the earlier rounds so no one has any natural immunity. Delta is rolling through them.

How the fuch do you know that?

[gordner]

Huh, that almost makes it seem like they are having issues because they are not vaccinated. Must be more to it, if we look harder, I am sure the vaccine is to blame.....

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by mattdavis11

How the fuch do you know that?

They had a tiny amount of cases and deaths. Look at the data. They are islands.

[mattdavis11]

Ok. Tell me how you would know I had COVID had I never been tested? If I had been asymptomatic, I would not have known.

[gordner]

In any significant numbers, you will know from hospitalizations…

[mattdavis11]

Explain their spike now.