Bye Bye Humidity..

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Right on!!!!

[Seahawk]

Targa’s, why does it always have to Targa’s



Great pics...I miss my Targa!

[stevej37]

Targa's are the most fun!

[Bob Kontak]

Ronnie has some strange temps. When I lived in Houston (later 90's second time), it was hot, but not Ronnie hot. The humidity was thru the roof.

I had a five and three ton, 16 seer and the AC guy told me to drop temps way down in the middle of the night to strip moisture from the structure as it was easier on the "system" for keeping it dry.

What I hate about Akron vs Houston is I could go and get kolaches on Highway 6 south of Cypress and eat dem like a boss.

Sorry. I digress.

[Rawknees'Turbo]

Temps in metal hanger is what I posted, Bobasaurous - outside air temp 96+. What still amazes me, after all these decades here, is the nighttime temps of mid/low 80s even at 3am.

[Crowbob]

25 Hours ago at the very northern tip of the Leelanau Peninsula. 66°, 40%RH, 7mphNNE. Not a cloud in the sky. At this place you can stand on the beach facing due north and have a 200° panorama of wide open fresh water and almost no land in sight. The nearest land mass (Beaver Island) being 50 miles away!

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by stevej37

Targa's are the most fun!

yeah... no..

[jcwade]

40% humidity is good?

[javadog]

Originally Posted by jcwade

40% humidity is good?

When it’s 66°, it’s fine. That same humidity at 96° is quite different and sucks the big one.

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

25 Hours ago at the very northern tip of the Leelanau Peninsula....

Looked it up...more that a little jealous!

What is Traverse City like?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by flatbutt

Whenever we get a storm like Ida the following day is usually B...U... T full. Todays was 71 F very low humidity and gorgeous. The people of NOLA sure could use a sequence like that rather than trying to recover in sweltering heat.

Interesting. My experience in the south is not the same. After a storm rolls through, the skies are clear, but the temps and humidity are usually high. It's awesome if the storm hit hard and you have no power and no AC and the temp and humidity are high.

After hurricane Ike hit in Sep, 2008, we had no power for several days (3 or 5, can't be sure). We lived with the windows open. The downstairs floor of our house was tile, and the tile was sweaty with condensation because it was cool and the weather was hot and humid. It was a miserable few days.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Rawknees'Turbo

Temps in metal hanger is what I posted, Bobasaurous - outside air temp 96+. What still amazes me, after all these decades here, is the nighttime temps of mid/low 80s even at 3am.

I've been in the Houston area since 1995. There have been years where the temps at 3 am were still 90 or higher. Those are what kill me.

[Crowbob]

TC used to be the ultimate ‘Up North’ small town on big lake. A really big lake. It was kinda a secret for many, many years, Paul.

It’s become like Napa Valley in reverse. 4 distinct seasons, each with their own attraction. I landed here in April, 1980. When the only way in was two-lane blacktop through 100’s of miles of woods-or by boat. Now, there are multiple highways from three directions and cruise ships docked one block north of down-town.

Driving through Napa Valley you see gorgeous vineyards surrounded by beautiful mountains. Driving up Center Road on Old Mission Penninsula you find yourself 100’s of feet up with oceans of fresh water below on both sides, also surrounded by gorgeous vineyards and majestic estates quite out of my pay-grade. Driving Napa you turn around at the end when you reach Calistoga. On Old. Mission you turn around when you run out of ground at Old Mission Lighthouse. Many visitors with the cash immediately start collecting real estate brochures.

The locals are getting priced out and for some unknown, self-destructive reason, the city management seems to think rezoning to allow as many ‘affordable housing’ developments accommodating up to 950 families each is a good idea. Two summers ago, was the first time in 40 years that I even entertained the idea of packing it in and escaping to the UP.

Doing an image search of Old Mission Penninsula gives one a clue. TC is at the base (south end) of Old Mission Penninsula with access to both East and West Bays.

https://i.imgur.com/VVOd5aS.png

[Crowbob]

A very brief thunderstorm on Torch Lake with part of the famn damily on the pontoon last week. Five minutes later it was HOT, SUNNY and HUUUUUMID again.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by jcwade

40% humidity is good?

Originally Posted by javadog

When it’s 66°, it’s fine. That same humidity at 96° is quite different and sucks the big one.

relative humidity is a crap measurement to try to determine comfort level. It's really a measure of saturation. If you've ever tried to dissolve sugar in a liquid, you know that you can dissolve more sugar in hot liquid than cold liquid. Same goes for relative humidity.

67º and 40% gives a dew point of about 55º which is very comfortable
77º and 40% gives a dew point of about 65º which is OK (for around here)
87º and 40% gives a dew point of about 75º which is generally uncomfortable unless there's a pretty good breeze.
97º and 40% gives a dew point of about 85º which is miserable. You feel like you're being water boarded.

https://www.renesas.com/us/en/blogs/understanding-relative-humidity-and-dew-point

On hot summer days, we tend to hear people say, “It’s so humid” or “It’s sticky out there.” To the surprise of most people who check the relative humidity level, they find it to be relatively low, for instance 52% RH. In a typical office building, for example where I am sitting at this moment of writing this, the relative humidity is measuring 50.15% RH with ambient temperature of 73.54°F (23.08°C), quite comfortable. So, why is the relative humidity practically the same in both instances? And what makes us tend to say “It feels hotter than it is out there?”

When we express how comfortable or uncomfortable we feel, we are really referring to the dew point. Our body cools us down through evaporation of perspiration and moist air will inhibit that. High precision dew point meters are expensive, bulky and typically not used in the household, such as home weather stations. Instead, relative humidity sensors are used to calculate the dew point in most of these devices. The accuracy of the relative humidity sensor (RH sensor) will determine the accuracy of the calculated dew point. Before we look at the relationship between relative humidity and dew point, let’s look at the basics of each.

Relative humidity (RH) is the ratio between the amount of water vapor (moisture) in the air at a given temperature to the maximum amount of water vapor the air can hold at that temperature. RH is expressed as a percentage (%). A rudimentary way to calculate it is by using a psychrometer to measure the dry and wet bulb temperature. Through the dry bulb temperature and the delta of the wet and dry bulb temperature (depression), the relative humidity can be determined. Now, MEMs-type (micro-electro-mechanical systems) relative humidity sensor ICs can accurately measure the RH level using the principles of an electrical signal change from a moisture absorbing film or structure. The important point to remember is that RH is relative to the temperature of the air at that moment. Warm air temperature holds more moisture than cold temperature. For example, 50% RH at a warm temperature has more water vapor than 50% RH at a colder temperature. This is why we don’t feel “sticky” in an office building with 50% RH.

Dew point is a better representative of the amount of moisture in the air. A dew point temperature below 60°F will feel comfortable for most of us and above 70°F we will feel sticky and makes us feel “hotter than it is out there.” So, what is dew point? We’ve all seen it with a glass filled with our favorite iced beverage on a warm day or when the fog rolls in during our morning commute. Dew point is simply the temperature at which the water vapor condensates to liquid water. The dew point temperature is always less than or equal to the air temperature. At the dew point, the relative humidity is 100% (at constant pressure).

[Seahawk]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

TC used to be the ultimate ‘Up North’ small town on big lake. A really big lake. It was kinda a secret for many, many years, Paul.

Being from California (60's version) I get the references in your longer post.

After we leave Maryland for South Carolina, I'll be looking for summer retreats to escape the heat and humidity. I have some places already in mind and then TC and north showed up.

I like the looks of the area...I won't stay, I promise.

If your next post with the pic was of your family, hands are full!

Best.

[mjohnson]

Originally Posted by Crowbob

TC used to be the ultimate ‘Up North’ small town on big lake. A really big lake. It was kinda a secret for many, many years, Paul. [/url]

Yah. I grew up in GR but summered every year in Suttons Bay and Charlevoix. TC went from small-town to fur-coat-kissy-face-ville in the last 20 yrs. Beautiful country up dere, however I'm short a million or so.

It's a really cool history too. Back before jets the bigwigs took the "resorter" trains from Detroit and Chicago to the north for the summer. Some amazing names around Charlevoix - the Dows, Loebs (Sears Roebuck), Olds and many more visited the place.

Though I've never been there, I think Door county in WI is similar with the Chicago crowd.

[mjohnson]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Being from California (60's version) I get the references in your longer post.

After we leave Maryland for South Carolina, I'll be looking for summer retreats to escape the heat and humidity. I have some places already in mind and then TC and north showed up.

I like the looks of the area...I won't stay, I promise.

If your next post with the pic was of your family, hands are full!

Best.

If you can handle the clouds and the cold, and there's more than a little - up there in N MI is heaven.

No big deal for me - I grew up nearby and I can always put more clothes on. It also makes sunny warm days that much sweeter.

300+ days/yr of sun here in NM gets old, believe it or not.

[Crowbob]

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Being from California (60's version) I get the references in your longer post.

After we leave Maryland for South Carolina, I'll be looking for summer retreats to escape the heat and humidity. I have some places already in mind and then TC and north showed up.

I like the looks of the area...I won't stay, I promise.

If your next post with the pic was of your family, hands are full!

Best.

I’ve been here pertnear 45 years, Paul. Need any help or info, let me know!

This here’s all of em. I’m showing Young Oliver the ropes, he likes to be in charge:

[KFC911]

CB you are living the dream .... thanks for sharing !