Statins and COVID

[Chocaholic]

I’ve been on 10mg/day Rosuvastatin (Crestor) for about 7 years. So, you can imagine my surprise while listening to an interview with a physician on NPR who said they’ve been having great success treating COVID acute and long-term patients with a Statin and a readily available AIDS drug (don’t recall the name). So, did a search and it seems this is not new.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34096808/

If you do a simple search (statins Covid), there are several publications. Most are supportive and a few are not. So... who knows?

[Gogar]

It's not in the news because it's got nothing to do with vaccination vaccination vaccination.

And crestor is off patent and no longer a cash cow.

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by Gogar

It's not in the news because it's got nothing to do with vaccination vaccination vaccination.

And crestor is off patent and no longer a cash cow.

Seriously, Gogar? Did you read the link that Chocaholic posted?

Do either of you want to go unvaccinated with that as your safety net?

[tabs]

Almost all CV patients that wind up in ICU are UNVAXED. They die like flies.

[ckelly78z]

Originally Posted by tabs

Almost all CV patients that wind up in ICU are UNVAXED. They die like flies.

FIL ended up in Emergency room on Saturday from covid...yea, he's vaxxed, but they believe it may be side effects of the vaccination itself !

[Aurel]

Drink red wine, good source of statins.
One glass a day keeps the COVID away .

[Tobra]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

Seriously, Gogar? Did you read the link that Chocaholic posted?

Do either of you want to go unvaccinated with that as your safety net?

I think you missed his point

[Chocaholic]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I think you missed his point

Yep.

Some simply cannot deviate from the message. Vax...period. Nothing else is worthy of discussion. Even treatments. Perhaps that’s why, after almost two years, we have none.

[Seahawk]

If this is a re-post, my apologies.

Again, get the vax if you feel the need:

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/confirmation-of-vaccine-associated

"If you cannot show me a peer-reviewed paper published in a corrupt medical journal backing your calculations of vaccine-associated mortality, I'm going to have to assume that these mafia organizations are telling the whole truth about their vaccine products without reviewing their data, and accepting the 0 in the mortality column that hasn't yet been studied." -Jeffrey Morris (paraphrasing)

To be fair, I'm not being fair. And it's not just him. It's a lot of very obtuse people who should show more responsibility from their positions. But I'm being mostly fair, and that's a lot fairer than they are.

Lots of charts and graphs, plus:

Except that it's not a consensus opinion, and the problem is that authorities who should be studying the problem seem happy to ignore it while refusing to answer emails discussing it. Also, science isn't conducted by consensus, even if The Science works that way amongst gatekeepers. All science and analyses should be published with an understanding the results are still always under discussion. Heck, it's still science and it's still debatable even when it hasn't been published or peer-reviewed. Peer review and publication are just steps intended to raise the status of results through experts who are supposed to understand what they're reading, and which has been thoroughly gamed over the years to the point that even the editor of the The Lancet complains that his journal industry is captured by pharmaceutical interests (in a "It's all corrupt, but no not me" kind of way).

It is all BS, of course, all written by hacks and slackers: MY folks are the scentists so debate is to be ignored.

[oldE]

The whole "we need something other than vaccines" position seems to me like a group of people trapped on the roof of a tall building. They are trying to conjure up a rope ladder or a helicopter to get them to safety while ignoring the stairs.

Best
Les

[black73]

Lost souls trapped in Hell

"and they never even know they have the key"

[Seahawk]

Interesting perspective, Gents.

The Trump Vaccine is very powerful.

[Chocaholic]

Originally Posted by oldE

The whole "we need something other than vaccines" position seems to me like a group of people trapped on the roof of a tall building. They are trying to conjure up a rope ladder or a helicopter to get them to safety while ignoring the stairs.

Best
Les

This may be the single most myopic post on the planet. Does this individual truly believe that no treatment is needed? That the vax is the sum total of our battle with the virus?

I’m continually amazed.

[GH85Carrera]

There was an article in the paper the other day warning people not to consume Iodine internally. Lots of people keep coming up with the goofiest ways to beat the virus. Not one is a peer reviewed valid study, just "my wife's hair dressers, best friend's, mother says it is a cure" type of rumor.

As a card carrying skeptic and life long believer in science I have gone with the vaccines. Vaccines are why most of us are alive now and not dead or never exist due to small pox, polio, cholera, rabies, mumps, or a dozen other deadly viruses. I have had my third dose of the vaccine now.

Stick to whatever some quack says works if you want. Drink some horse medicine, I really don't care what other adults try. No doubt, a tall glass of iodide will make the kung flu a non issue for you.

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by Tobra

I think you missed his point

Okay, I'll play. What is the point of Chocoholic's link?

Originally Posted by Chocaholic

Yep.

Some simply cannot deviate from the message. Vax...period. Nothing else is worthy of discussion. Even treatments. Perhaps that’s why, after almost two years, we have none.

Please read your own link and tell me how useful it says statins are and at what point during an infection they come in.

How many times have I mentioned monoclonal antibodies? Do you think they're a treatment or not?

Did you notice I said Ivermectin is worthy of being checked out? "Vax...period" is not me.

Do you see no value in prevention? Or is it all about treatment, treatment, treatment for you?

[Seahawk]

What is interesting is that once I started on the "trial" path based on science and medical recommendations, I decided to read as much as I could with an open mind.

The link I posted above is a prime example.

If you disagree, fine, but there is emerging evidence that may not fit the current narrative.

That is how science works.

Get the shot. I still may. Trial ends in two months. I'll have better insight then because, that is how science works.

[Rtrorkt]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

There was an article in the paper the other day warning people not to consume Iodine internally. Lots of people keep coming up with the goofiest ways to beat the virus. Not one is a peer reviewed valid study, just "my wife's hair dressers, best friend's, mother says it is a cure" type of rumor.

As a card carrying skeptic and life long believer in science I have gone with the vaccines. Vaccines are why most of us are alive now and not dead or never exist due to small pox, polio, cholera, rabies, mumps, or a dozen other deadly viruses. I have had my third dose of the vaccine now.

Stick to whatever some quack says works if you want. Drink some horse medicine, I really don't care what other adults try. No doubt, a tall glass of iodide will make the kung flu a non issue for you.

^^ +1 This.

[stomachmonkey]

Personally I'll take any vaccine over Statins any day.

BTDTGTS, never again.

[Chocaholic]

Originally Posted by Steve Carlton

Okay, I'll play. What is the point of Chocoholic's link?

Please read your own link and tell me how useful it says statins are and at what point during an infection they come in.

How many times have I mentioned monoclonal antibodies? Do you think they're a treatment or not?

Did you notice I said Ivermectin is worthy of being checked out? "Vax...period" is not me.

Do you see no value in prevention? Or is it all about treatment, treatment, treatment for you?

Each question answered:

Wow...such a reaction! I posted the link to see what the forum thought of this possible treatment. That’s it.

What you brought up about monoclonals is nice, but not sure how it applies to my question about statins.

Your Ivermectin and vax-period comment is confusing...I was not even replying to you.

Lastly, of course I see value in prevention. Not even sure why you asked.


Your completely out of context reaction is a sad commentary on what this virus has done to people. Mentally! Lighten up Francis.

[Steve Carlton]

Originally Posted by Chocaholic

Each question answered:

Wow...such a reaction! I posted the link to see what the forum thought of this possible treatment. That’s it.

What you brought up about monoclonals is nice, but not sure how it applies to my question about statins.

Your Ivermectin and vax-period comment is confusing...I was not even replying to you.

Lastly, of course I see value in prevention. Not even sure why you asked.


Your completely out of context reaction is a sad commentary on what this virus has done to people. Mentally! Lighten up Francis.

I was responding to Gogar's post, then asked both of you if you thought statins was an adequate safety net. From the link you posted, it sounded like it might have some positive effect on an individual already in the hospital.

It's best you don't reply to my comments. Things usually go downhill. Try reading my comment again. I said Ivermectin is worthy of being researched. That is counter to this comment, from YOU:

Originally Posted by Chocaholic

Some simply cannot deviate from the message. Vax...period. Nothing else is worthy of discussion. Even treatments. Perhaps that’s why, after almost two years, we have none.

I'm glad you see the value in prevention. Are you vaccinated? Just curious.

How is my reaction "completely out of context"? Just curious.