So sorry to hear about your friend. Prayers to you and his family.

Dave

Sorry Brother KC.

Sorry for your loss.

KC so sorry for your loss . RIP to your friend and strength for his family .

https://factcheck.afp.com/http%253A%252F%252Fdoc.afp.com%252F9M48JR-1

https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2021/japan-has-not-approved-ivermectin-as-a-covid-treatment-and-its-still-using-the-moderna-vaccine/

I stand corrected, no one take Ivermectin.

It does not work.

Thanks for the input sir.

The key to success for ivermectin, or hydroxychloroquine, or probably any similar pill is taking them at the first sign of symptoms or as soon as you know you have it. You’re trying to disrupt the virus replicating.

Early treatment. That’s the whole key.

Take for example, this guy‘s results:

https://rcm.imrpress.com/EN/10.31083/j.rcm2203116

Curious, was it prescribed to you as a treatment for COVID-19?

It does not work do not take it.

JYL is the expert we are all wrong.

Good luck and good health to all of you.


To answer your question I pose a question.

When you find out you have it what are you told to do?

Ride it out and hope it does not get bad.

Sounds like they want people to die to me.

Go back and read my first post in this thread.

Way back in 2004 I realized the government is not here for you. You are on your own.

When Covid broke out, I started to approach it like I was on my own, I did my own research and came to my own conclusions.

You can stand by and watch those around you die, or you can do something to help those around you.

I chose to help, I gave everyone the contact info to get a supply of a drug that does not work because I do not believe sitting around and hoping it does not get bad was an option. We will all die because JYL says so.

Or maybe it works and I saved at least one life so far. I also armed many families with a drug that does not work.. just in case.

The key to “success” for ivermectin is that the majority of even high risk persons receiving a placebo will recover without hospitalization.

E.g. in the molnupiravir phase 3 trials, in a study population of unvaccinated persons with high risk factors (older, obese, etc), of which 80% were in Latin America, of those taking the placebo 14% progressed to hospitalization and/or death. Of those on the drug, 7% did. A 50% reduction in risk of hospitalization/death, that’s significant, but 86% of patients on placebo recovered fine. Like the MIL.

Drugs have to be tested against placebo, or against another known effective drug, in a sufficiently large study, to actually know if and how well they work.

Ivermectin has been tested. A number of the “reported” results have been shown to be fraudulent. Excluding those, trials have produced no evidence the drug works.

But what’s the harm in taking horse dewormer? Well, in itself, nothing much. Yes, some people are poisoning themselves with it, but not many.

However, there are now drugs that do work. The monoclonal antibody (mAb) infusions work quite well when started early. In their clinical trials the risk reduction was about 80%. Why do you think every VIP, from the President on down, gets the mAb infusion as soon as they show symptoms?

The problem with the (foreign instigated) disinformation campaign for ivermectin and HCQ is that some people will choose to take those drugs instead of something that works. Like the MIL here. She recovered fine, as she had around 85% odds of doing anyway. But, if after a week on horse dewormer, she’d deteriorated enough to stop listening to you and get herself admitted, good chance it would have been too late for the mAb to have its best chance of helping.

BTW I’m not saying molnupiravir is the cat’s meow. 7% is still a lot. The drug has a mechanism that causes some (highly expert) people concern (it works by greatly increasing viral mutation, so much that the replicated virus is not functional; cool trick, but still . . . you’re deliberately accelerating mutation). There are at least three other oral antivirals almost done with their phase 3 trials that do not use that mechanism. I’m very interested to see their data in the next couple months.

You do not have to defend yourself bro, you are right no one should take it. It does not work.

Instead sit home and wait until it gets worse. Then get on a ventilator and die.

When I have the flu, I can't (don't like) taking cold medicine, Robitussin, NyQuil or any of that stuff. It gives me the Hee-bee-Jeebies.

I take vitamin C and drink bone broth.

Cures me right up and nobody gives me shyte.

Was given to a coworker that caught it. He survived. Was out of work for 4 months and had the blood clots in the lungs. He could have gone either way. The ER refused to ventilate and gave oxygen at home.
This was late 2020 before the vaccine was even available.

I’m sincerely curious. Did you get a physician to prescribe you ivermectin for COVID-19? Doing your own research doesn’t count. Attachment 10587

Doing your own research doesn’t count.

What an insane thing to say. Of course you should educate yourself. Again I ask, what is the move when you find out you caught this deadly disease?

Go home and ride it out and hope it does not get bad.

Does that seem sane to you? It seemed insane to me, over a year ago, I started to look into what worked. In October last year I read an article about Ivermectine, I did more research and found out that it was working and being rolled out in many countries.

I am not here to debate if it works or not, you and a few others seem hell bent on dismissing it, that is your choice, as is my choice to decide to keep it on hand, just in case.

I have a doc that wrote a script, she also forced her parents to get vaccinated and told us (my wife and I ) that we should not bother getting vaccinated because it was not FDA approved (at the time), but make sure our parents get vaccinated because they are high risk. My parents and my younger brother are vaccinated. My younger brother has health issues stemming from being overweight. He is what covid kills along with the elderly.

You can also get it the Viagra way, there are plenty of online pharmacies that do a "consultation" and prescribe it to you as well, I sent a couple of friends on that route because they do not have access to our family doctor. We pay a yearly concierge fee for access to ours, we understand not everyone can afford that.

For a while earlier this year I was the go to guy because my friends and family all knew I had it. I got tired of that and give them all the info they needed to get their own. Everyone is now stocked up.

Thank you all for your replies and PMs... I appreciate them. My mom is taking this pretty hard .... I'll leave all of the debate to you guys. Doesn't matter to me ... Robbie died ...

I've gotten over the shock, and so has mom... but have trouble coming to grips with one fact.

Robbie died prematurely due to Covid, and it likely was preventable.

RIP brother.... a part of me died with you.

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2. Drink bleach! Cancer cured ! Don’t be a gullible sheep!
3. Guy in Sri Lanka cured his cancer with bleach. Says so on his Facebook.
4. Bleach is a cheap and free cure, so that’s why it’s covered up as the true cure because conspiracy deep state global new world order commie cancer profit hoax !

The anti vaxxer anti logic is fascinating. They claim vaccines are no good because they’re "untested” despite being thoroughly tested and approved by the FDA, as well as equivalent organizations around the world, and have already been safely administered to hundreds of millions of people.

So sorry to read your last post KC. You can’t help but feel anger at something we seem powerless to stop. Hard to believe in this day and age.

My wife’s youngest brother, 49, was diagnosed with multiple myeloma last night. 48 hours ago he was an active, hard working lawyer who came in from clearing some land on his tractor, said he wasn’t feeling well. Kidneys are now shut down and looking at dialysis among countless other nightmares.

Treasure your health guys, but more importantly, treasure those you love. Because, in a New York minute, everything can change. Someone should write a song.

KC, my best for your buddy’s family. It’s hard to lose a friend by any means. Hang tough brother.

Sorry for your loss. My friend's daughter is a nurse. She is seeing this daily and it is taking a toll. Maybe take the pissing match to another thread.