My suggestion for the new mods and rules...

[KFC911]

Some are aware that we have two new sheriffs, most probably are not. I've just "picked up on it" and who they are. This place needs to be "cleaned up" imo... and I hope Paul and Nick do so. That said....

Tell us

Lay out the "new rules" and how they will be enforced for everyone to plainly see.

One comment about a thread yesterday had me (and others too) wondering WTF? Another comment just made by the other is exactly what is needed at this point imo.

I reckon I've violated Z-man's rule #2 at least 20K times over the years .

Lay it out for us, then get to work .... yer paychecks are dependent on it ...

Good luck!

[Arizona_928]

Police our own. I think that we have a good set of members. And it's usually those that go off the rails are the ones that need to be given a little extra love. Ie. Tar and feather

[cabmandone]

In case I haven't made it clear in my comments here in OT, treat every person as if they're a moderator capable of banning you. Everything will fix itself at that point. I just want to clean up how we treat each other here in OT. As I told the person I warned, I'm guilty as hell in PARF but I think the gloves can come off there a little more than here.

I think Paul and I just want to see people take things down a notch or 10. Post less about political things, or things that will quickly turn political here.

OT has been a place I come to have some fun and shoot the breeze with folks. It hasn't gone unnoticed by many here that things have gotten so contentious here. The constant badgering by some, I'm guilty, has to stop.

FWIW, the rule are posted above. I was told by Z to review them. I've suggested some amendments to the rules. I'm sure we'll be letting everyone know what to expect going forward. But there will indeed be a difference here.

[stevej37]

^^^ well said.

[KFC911]

Yep! I wasn't aware that you and Paul have taken on a thankless task until yesterday. Maybe it's been obvious over in PARF, but I haven't visited in many months so I suspect many don't know either.

Have at it boyz .... this is your official "coming out" thread !

[stevej37]

^^^ Thankless? I heard the pay is amazing.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by KC911

Yep! I wasn't aware that you and Paul have taken on a thankless task until yesterday. Maybe it's been obvious over in PARF, but I haven't visited in many months so I suspect many don't know either.

Have at it boyz .... this is your official "coming out" thread !

You probably wouldn't know I was a mod if you looked at a few threads in PARF lately. But like I said, I think the gloves can come off there a little more. This is where a lot of members come to joke around and have a good time. I want to see more of that going forward.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Bob Kontak

.....

Bob,
I don't want this to turn into a callout thread. Please delete. Everyone knows who the "usual suspects" are here.

[Bill Douglas]

We need a constitution.

Contributions please.

And sensible ones too. Not rubbish like "No loaded guns allowed onsite."

[Rusty Heap]

Breathalyzer before posting?

[cabmandone]

Bill,
Like I said in my first post. If everyone just treats everyone else as though they're a moderator capable of banning them, I think things will clean up quickly. I don't think it needs to be anymore in depth than that.

But as far as the Constitution. I'm the grand ruler first and foremost. Paul doesn't even know this yet.. But by the time he figures it out, I'll have him taken out so he can't challenge my authority.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Rusty Heap

Breathalyzer before posting?

HA! That would probably cut my post count in half!

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by cabmando

You probably wouldn't know I was a mod if you looked at a few threads in PARF lately. But like I said, I think the gloves can come off there a little more. This is where a lot of members come to joke around and have a good time. I want to see more of that going forward.

I was referring to the "knowledge" that you and Paul had badges might be in PARF....

We DO need some stinkin' badges ...

And I agree.... no names are needed on this thread.... we know who they are ... from both sides.

Be nice or leave....

PARF awaits you

[craigster59]

I say, let "shyte and a$$" keep on going but ban "choich".

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by craigster59

I say, let "shyte and a$$" keep on going but ban "choich".

What did we just say about drinking while posting?

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by KC911

I was referring to the "knowledge" that you and Paul had badges might be in PARF....

Yeah Z posted a welcome the new mods thread over there.

[stevej37]

No...don't ban cooch.

[Superman]

Nick, it is good policy own your faults and mistakes but in my memory you have not been much of an offender. Certainly not compared to some others. I think public policy discussions are healthy. Vital, I would say, in a great democracy like this one. And I think those views can be expressed vigorously, forcefully, and still be "in bounds." As long as they target an idea or policy or law or administration or politician. To me, the line is crossed when the target becomes a Board member. In my view, that line needs to be guarded.

I am concerned about the Moderators' workload. Transgressions should be rare events and they are not (though I have spent almost no time on PARF in the last several months). Perhaps some bannings will help the learning process and eventually reduce Moderators' workloads.

[cabmandone]

Originally Posted by Superman

Nick, it is good policy own your faults and mistakes but in my memory you have not been much of an offender. Certainly not compared to some others. I think public policy discussions are healthy. Vital, I would say, in a great democracy like this one. And I think those views can be expressed vigorously, forcefully, and still be "in bounds." As long as they target an idea or policy or law or administration or politician. To me, the line is crossed when the target becomes a Board member. In my view, that line needs to be guarded.

I am concerned about the Moderators' workload. Transgressions should be rare events and they are not (though I have spent almost no time on PARF in the last several months). Perhaps some bannings will help the learning process and eventually reduce Moderators' workloads.

Don't worry about our workload. I think once people realize OT is being very actively moderated, things will calm down a bit. I don't mean that as a slight to Zman. He has done a great job!

Paul and I want to use the ban as a last resort. I think just letting people know that something is out of line will work in most cases. I've already been thanked by a few members for giving them warnings when things went sideways. Sometimes we just get carried away and need to have that reminder.

I gotta go out and put some gutter guard up so you guys keep it civil while I'm gone!

[LEAKYSEALS951]

Originally Posted by cabmando

Don't worry about our workload. I think once people realize OT is being very actively moderated, things will calm down a bit. I don't mean that as a slight to Zman. He has done a great job!

Thanks for stepping up to the plate. Optimism is a force multiplier.

For comparison-

If I were moderator, I'd demand all participants buy $100 monthly towards Pelican Parts products to provide the privilege of this site. If posters are dillweeds, instantly up that to $1000.

No questions asked.

On my first day of service, I'd post this:



This is why you are a wiser head than mine!