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My suggestion for the new mods and rules...
Some are aware that we have two new sheriffs, most probably are not. I've just "picked up on it" and who they are. This place needs to be "cleaned up" imo... and I hope Paul and Nick do so. That said....
Tell us ;) Lay out the "new rules" and how they will be enforced for everyone to plainly see. One comment about a thread yesterday had me (and others too) wondering WTF? Another comment just made by the other is exactly what is needed at this point imo. I reckon I've violated Z-man's rule #2 at least 20K times over the years :D. Lay it out for us, then get to work .... yer paychecks are dependent on it ;)... Good luck! |
Police our own. I think that we have a good set of members. And it's usually those that go off the rails are the ones that need to be given a little extra love. Ie. Tar and feather
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In case I haven't made it clear in my comments here in OT, treat every person as if they're a moderator capable of banning you. Everything will fix itself at that point. I just want to clean up how we treat each other here in OT. As I told the person I warned, I'm guilty as hell in PARF but I think the gloves can come off there a little more than here.
I think Paul and I just want to see people take things down a notch or 10. Post less about political things, or things that will quickly turn political here. OT has been a place I come to have some fun and shoot the breeze with folks. It hasn't gone unnoticed by many here that things have gotten so contentious here. The constant badgering by some, I'm guilty, has to stop. FWIW, the rule are posted above. I was told by Z to review them. I've suggested some amendments to the rules. I'm sure we'll be letting everyone know what to expect going forward. But there will indeed be a difference here. |
^^^ well said.
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Yep! I wasn't aware that you and Paul have taken on a thankless task until yesterday. Maybe it's been obvious over in PARF, but I haven't visited in many months so I suspect many don't know either.
Have at it boyz .... this is your official "coming out" thread :D! |
^^^ Thankless? I heard the pay is amazing. :D
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I don't want this to turn into a callout thread. Please delete. Everyone knows who the "usual suspects" are here. |
We need a constitution.
Contributions please. And sensible ones too. Not rubbish like "No loaded guns allowed onsite." |
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Bill,
Like I said in my first post. If everyone just treats everyone else as though they're a moderator capable of banning them, I think things will clean up quickly. I don't think it needs to be anymore in depth than that. But as far as the Constitution. I'm the grand ruler first and foremost. Paul doesn't even know this yet.. But by the time he figures it out, I'll have him taken out so he can't challenge my authority. :D |
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We DO need some stinkin' badges :D... And I agree.... no names are needed on this thread.... we know who they are ... from both sides. Be nice or leave.... PARF awaits you :) |
I say, let "shyte and a$$" keep on going but ban "choich".
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No...don't ban cooch.
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Nick, it is good policy own your faults and mistakes but in my memory you have not been much of an offender. Certainly not compared to some others. I think public policy discussions are healthy. Vital, I would say, in a great democracy like this one. And I think those views can be expressed vigorously, forcefully, and still be "in bounds." As long as they target an idea or policy or law or administration or politician. To me, the line is crossed when the target becomes a Board member. In my view, that line needs to be guarded.
I am concerned about the Moderators' workload. Transgressions should be rare events and they are not (though I have spent almost no time on PARF in the last several months). Perhaps some bannings will help the learning process and eventually reduce Moderators' workloads. |
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Paul and I want to use the ban as a last resort. I think just letting people know that something is out of line will work in most cases. I've already been thanked by a few members for giving them warnings when things went sideways. Sometimes we just get carried away and need to have that reminder. I gotta go out and put some gutter guard up so you guys keep it civil while I'm gone! :D |
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For comparison- If I were moderator, I'd demand all participants buy $100 monthly towards Pelican Parts products to provide the privilege of this site. If posters are dillweeds, instantly up that to $1000. No questions asked. On my first day of service, I'd post this: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1636323437.jpg This is why you are a wiser head than mine! :D |
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