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stevej37 12-06-2021 05:29 AM

Who is missing tread ?
 
My General Altimax Arctic tires on the front of my Fit, are down to 50% tread left.
Car will prob be gone around spring.
Should I replace them with winter almost here?

LEAKYSEALS951 12-06-2021 05:41 AM

My wife's tires had a bunch of faceting on them, drove like tank treads.

I got Michelin Crossclimate II tires, which aren't SNOW tires, but darn sure close!

Found one cracked rim on her car, and one bent one. Fixed the bend, bought a new rim to replace the cracked one, and it drives awful, like a missed wheel weight. I'm a little bummed right now! I can't figure if it's still a bent rim issue, or a balance issue, or a drivetrain issue. Arghhh!

URY914 12-06-2021 05:44 AM

Here's a question about missing treads. Where do they go? I see they are gone from my tires but where is the rubber now? It all can't be on the roads so are we breathing it?

Anyone?

stevej37 12-06-2021 05:58 AM

^^^ Artificial turf fields are made from old tires.
Maybe they come by, late at night, and vacuum the tread pieces off the roads. :D

LEAKYSEALS951 12-06-2021 06:00 AM

langoliers

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1638799224.jpg

stevej37 12-06-2021 06:08 AM

^^^ Those would explain it!

stevej37 12-06-2021 06:39 AM

I looked on my tires for wear bars...couldn't find any.
A guy told me that all-season tires never have them. I didn't know that.

john70t 12-06-2021 06:48 AM

Rotate em fer sure.

The artificial reefs made from old tires are believed to cause damage via chemical leeching so that is out. The bitumen Orangeburg sewage pipes back in the 50-60s were also not the best of ideas. But they've been used in embankments and earth shelters, new asphalt, and roof shingles. They'd last forever as shoe tread or sandals.

Understanding how tires are used in asphalt | Asphalt magazine
Today, only a small percentage of waste tires are being land-filled. The recycled rubber is being used in new tires, in tire-derived fuel, in civil engineering applications and products, in molded rubber products, in agricultural uses, recreational and sports applications and in rubber modified asphalt applications.

stevej37 12-06-2021 06:58 AM

[QUOTE=john70t;11538667]Rotate em fer sure.

There's a small problem with that...lol. I have a new pair of Douglas summer tires on the back! I tried to get a pair of Generals to match up this past summer...but I couldn't find any in my 15" size...anywheres.

stevej37 12-06-2021 07:22 AM

Would side to side for rotating be as good?

LEAKYSEALS951 12-06-2021 07:31 AM

In my experience, the snow tires go from being wonderful magic thingees to more akin to all seasons as they wear.

What's your tire size 185/55/15? Seems like you could get a closeout deal for two, replace the douglas temporarily, and then have new snows on the front and 50% on the back, keeping the douglas for when it's time to sell.

Depends on if you want to shell out $200 or so. With blow falling from the sky, people are going to be driving all wired.

I dont think side to side will do much for traction.

URY914 12-06-2021 07:35 AM

Tires are very wasteful. You only wear off say 10% of the entire tire and then you throw the other 90% away.

stevej37 12-06-2021 07:51 AM

[QUOTE=LEAKYSEALS951;11538713]
What's your tire size 185/55/15? Seems like you could get a closeout deal for two, replace the douglas temporarily, and then have new snows on the front and 50% on the back, keeping the douglas for when it's time to sell.


The size is 185/65/15 and even when new, they looked more like all-season tires than snows. But they seemed to do fine in med snow. If it gets thicker...I don't drive in it.
Even buying the Douglas's was a challenge because nobody seems to carry that size.

Scott Douglas 12-06-2021 08:24 AM

Couple years ago I got fed up with the fine dusting of rubber on my back bumper so took my car to Johnson's Alignment to have it checked out. Turns out the rear end was toed in 1/4" total so the car was dragging the back end around all the time. While the tech was checking it, he found I had a rear tire with a tread separating. Could only see the 'bubble' when the car was jacked up and you spun the tire. I'd had a come 'n go vibe but could never figure it out. That is why. Got the rear re-aligned and a set of new tires too and the car was a joy to drive once again. And no more rubber dust on the back bumper either.

john70t 12-06-2021 08:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11538718)
Tires are very wasteful. You only wear off say 10% of the entire tire and then you throw the other 90% away.

This.
The trucking industry does re-treading (those big circular pieces found in the middle of the highway).

The Tweel would be a good replacement for the tire if the spokes held up or were individually replaceable. Right now they are thin and exposed to the elements. There is a design problem in there which could be fixed by some engineer in the future.

stevej37 12-06-2021 09:46 AM

I thought re-treading was illegal in some states?

GH85Carrera 12-06-2021 09:49 AM

I try hard to wear off all that excess tread, it is heavy unsprung weight, just like excess brake pad material and rotor steel. A few track days will wear off a lot of that excess mass and make thing more fun. Or at least it is fun to wear it off.

GH85Carrera 12-06-2021 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11538860)
I thought re-treading was illegal in some states?

The first set of tires I ever bought were recaps for my 1960 VW bug. That 36 HP (when new) monster engine had a 0-60 of maybe, if there is a tailwind, but not a headwind or any sort of incline. On flat ground and no wind it was 72 seconds to get to 60, after 100,000 miles on the engine.

A full set of 4 tires, mounted balanced and tax and everything was under 30 bucks. They were still in good shape when I sold the car.

When I bought the super powerful 73 Super Bug with 60 HP, and knew I needed some grip, so I replaced the bias ply tires it came with with some radials.

URY914 12-06-2021 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11538869)
The first set of tires I ever bought were recaps for my 1960 VW bug. That 36 HP (when new) monster engine had a 0-60 of maybe, if there is a tailwind, but not a headwind or any sort of incline. On flat ground and no wind it was 72 seconds to get to 60, after 100,000 miles on the engine.

A full set of 4 tires, mounted balanced and tax and everything was under 30 bucks. They were still in good shape when I sold the car.

When I bought the super powerful 73 Super Bug with 60 HP, and knew I needed some grip, so I replaced the bias ply tires it came with with some radials.

I had to buy a tire for my first car, a 1970 Bug. Tire cost about $14.00. :eek:

Scott Douglas 12-06-2021 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 11539003)

I'd really be interested in knowing just how quiet those are.

KFC911 12-06-2021 11:57 AM

I hate when ya see a tread that's beem missing for a while on the side of the road... they ain't coming back :(

stevej37 12-06-2021 12:04 PM

The missus really misses the missing tread.

stevej37 12-06-2021 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 11539003)


Twice the price of my Altimax Arctics.

GH85Carrera 12-06-2021 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11538936)
I had to buy a tire for my first car, a 1970 Bug. Tire cost about $14.00. :eek:

They kept my old set of tires as "cores" there were good enough to recap. The 1960 had a pretty small tire, and after nearly 50 years I don't remember the exact tire size. This would have been in late 1971 or early 1972. 30 bucks then is $200 now.

stevej37 12-06-2021 02:58 PM

^^^ would you drive on a recap now?
Tire quality is X10 what it was then.

When I was a teen...you couldn't drive 20 miles without passing someone on the side of the road changing a flat.

LEAKYSEALS951 12-06-2021 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 11539008)
I'd really be interested in knowing just how quiet those are.

Quiet. (so far- about 50 miles) At 40k? who knows.
I've got some balancing issues, so I need to sort that out.
Potential problem is they catch a bunch of gravel. A bunch. I can't tell if trapped gravel is causing balance issues. I hope not. They look like mini ag tires for a car. I will get back when issues sorted out.

fastfredracing 12-06-2021 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by afterburn 549 (Post 11539003)

I just bought 4 of those for a customer . I was surprised how nice they rode . I am curious to see how well they wear

stevej37 12-06-2021 03:48 PM

All fine and dandy...until you see the price.

fastfredracing 12-06-2021 03:48 PM

Has anybody ever been on I 80 up near the Delaware water gap ? I have never seen so many tire carcasses on the side of the road in my life . I have been through there twice and both times the side of the road was just littered with them

stevej37 12-06-2021 03:51 PM

FF
If you were talking deer carcasses...we have you beat!
Truck tire skins are plentiful here also.

GH85Carrera 12-07-2021 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11539242)
^^^ would you drive on a recap now?
Tire quality is X10 what it was then.

When I was a teen...you couldn't drive 20 miles without passing someone on the side of the road changing a flat.

Oh hell no.

Recaps were fine for a car that would top out at 60 under ideal conditions. We have roads in Oklahoma right now that the legal speed limit is 80, and most drivers are pushing that limit.

Semis still use them, and I wish they were illegal. I had a 18 wheeler shed a tread as I was passing it. I was in my 914 with the roof off at the time and that tread went right over my head and landed in on the shoulder and the road right behind me. I missed death be just a few feet.

stevej37 12-07-2021 09:23 AM

The company that I worked for in the early 80's used re-caps for all their truck tires.
It was common to see these tires with less than 10K miles with a separation between the cap and the tire. Sometimes they would go another 40-50K miles with no problem.

They never, never used them on the front wheels.

911 Rod 12-07-2021 09:26 AM

You are in Michigan? Treat yourself to new snows. I hate sliding into stuff.

Por_sha911 12-07-2021 09:34 AM

I just failed reading comprehension.
I thought the title was Who is missing THREAD and I was all set to say "don't know, don't care" LOL.

stevej37 12-07-2021 09:38 AM

^^^ Ha! That was the intent.
I thought about starting a "Who is pissing thread ?"

David 12-07-2021 09:43 AM

I think my track driving exceeded my Michelin 4S tires design parameters:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1638898957.JPG

stevej37 12-07-2021 09:46 AM

^^^ Have it capped/re-capped. :D

stevej37 12-09-2021 09:35 AM

Today was a great test for my half-tread. Had no problem..it just keeps pawing through the snow.
New tires will wait.

stevej37 12-09-2021 10:09 AM

re-cap?

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1639073358.jpg

stevej37 12-09-2021 10:32 AM

^^^ Nice! Can't go wrong with Michelin's


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