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Hell no, this is to piss off all my ultra left, tree hugging neighbors with my 2 stroke pud pud. Another few drops more of two stroke oil will smoke em' out. Muhahahah
Need to make it a diesel then.....and go roll some coal!

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Old 12-21-2021, 06:21 PM
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Kurt, that is super cool. Is that some type of suspension seat?

I just started to take a few covers off couple hours ago and discovered there's no spark. I don't understand how this thing create electricity to power the biggest draw, the head light and the plug? Know if the socks can be rebuild? The choke is stuck or frozen, so a new carb maybe on order. Do you think its better to keep the old and just rebuild it?

I need to get it running so I can take it down to my local car wash and spray away with their power washer to get off 30 years of gunk. Its not too grease at all, so I don't see any leaks. I have to see about changing the oil on this thing. I have not been this excited about a project in a long time.
Yes, that is a sprung seat. But it really bounces around when you ride it.

Electricity for the spark plug and then eventually the lights comes from a magneto. Don’t expect much in the way of lights.

Carburetors are cheap to purchase for the bike, so you may just want to try doing that. Although some carburetor cleaner may loosen everything up.

I’m attaching a video on how to start the bike. It’s hard to see the spark as the magneto doesn’t put out much juice. A good way to test to see if you’ve got spark is to just spray a little starting fluid in the carburetor, pull in the start lever, and pedal like a madman! Once everything is tuned up it will start as easy as it does in this video.

https://youtu.be/mSdtHkBVHOs
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Need to make it a diesel then.....and go roll some coal!

NICE score, Jeff!
Thanks man. I feel like a little kid again. I am more excited about tearing it apart and getting it back on the road then the actual ride itself.
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Yes, that is a sprung seat. But it really bounces around when you ride it.

Electricity for the spark plug and then eventually the lights comes from a magneto. Don’t expect much in the way of lights.

Carburetors are cheap to purchase for the bike, so you may just want to try doing that. Although some carburetor cleaner may loosen everything up.

I’m attaching a video on how to start the bike. It’s hard to see the spark as the magneto doesn’t put out much juice. A good way to test to see if you’ve got spark is to just spray a little starting fluid in the carburetor, pull in the start lever, and pedal like a madman! Once everything is tuned up it will start as easy as it does in this video.

https://youtu.be/mSdtHkBVHOs
Cool. Gotta to check up on my mother but will view this when I get back. You will be sorry now that you told me one was restored.
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You are probably going to want to use either non-ethanol gas OR rebuild the carbs and replace gas lines etc with ethanol-safe stuff. Treat it like the glorified weedeater that it is
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Yes, that is a sprung seat. But it really bounces around when you ride it.

Electricity for the spark plug and then eventually the lights comes from a magneto. Don’t expect much in the way of lights.

Carburetors are cheap to purchase for the bike, so you may just want to try doing that. Although some carburetor cleaner may loosen everything up.

I’m attaching a video on how to start the bike. It’s hard to see the spark as the magneto doesn’t put out much juice. A good way to test to see if you’ve got spark is to just spray a little starting fluid in the carburetor, pull in the start lever, and pedal like a madman! Once everything is tuned up it will start as easy as it does in this video.

https://youtu.be/mSdtHkBVHOs
Jut saw that. Its is too cool.

Getting me some gas tomorrow, and see if I can get fuel into the carb. Hope it will start. You know what kind of oil it needs? I see the drain for what looks like for the gears. I can't seem to fine the fill and drain for the motor? Wonder if 30w oil will do?
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I am a moped and scooter enthusiast (see signature) and you have a lot of good advice here.

This era of Puch would have no battery and would power the lights etc just from the magneto, batteries only became required later when the feds made it a requirement that headlight and taillight operate even with the engine not running. Even with models where the battery is included it is common to delete it to reduce weight and complexity.

If it were me and my goal were to just get it rideable again (versus making it a showpiece) I would
-get new tires and tubes (they mount like bike tires, bet you've never changed one of those before)
-clean out the the carb and jets
-flush the tank and fuel lines
-figure out why there is no spark (probably the kill switch or a bad condenser, not much to go wrong)
-fire it up and ride off into the sunset

Seattle has a pretty solid scooter and moped scene, and a few bars and arcades that are frequented by folks in this scene. Back when I was living in Kuala Lumpur there were moped gangs called "rempits" who would generally engage in hooliganism and showing off. What can I say, mopeds are fun! 2 smoke!
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I am a moped and scooter enthusiast (see signature) and you have a lot of good advice here.

This era of Puch would have no battery and would power the lights etc just from the magneto, batteries only became required later when the feds made it a requirement that headlight and taillight operate even with the engine not running. Even with models where the battery is included it is common to delete it to reduce weight and complexity.

If it were me and my goal were to just get it rideable again (versus making it a showpiece) I would
-get new tires and tubes (they mount like bike tires, bet you've never changed one of those before)
-clean out the the carb and jets
-flush the tank and fuel lines
-figure out why there is no spark (probably the kill switch or a bad condenser, not much to go wrong)
-fire it up and ride off into the sunset

Seattle has a pretty solid scooter and moped scene, and a few bars and arcades that are frequented by folks in this scene. Back when I was living in Kuala Lumpur there were moped gangs called "rempits" who would generally engage in hooliganism and showing off. What can I say, mopeds are fun! 2 smoke!
That is exactly my goal, no show piece, not yet

What do you recommend to flush fuel tank?
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That is exactly my goal, no show piece, not yet

What do you recommend to flush fuel tank?
I usually use evaporust or POR-15 products, maybe an initial round of acetone if the old fuel is turned into shellac. I suggest you familiarize yourself with mopedarmy.com, they have a lot of info including a page of info on this very topic!

https://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Removing_rust_from_a_gas_tank
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I usually use evaporust or POR-15 products, maybe an initial round of acetone if the old fuel is turned into shellac. I suggest you familiarize yourself with mopedarmy.com, they have a lot of info including a page of info on this very topic!

https://www.mopedarmy.com/wiki/Removing_rust_from_a_gas_tank
I looked into the tank today. With what I can see, its pretty clean in there. I only saw some green shellac like substance around the filler neck.

Thanks for the link. Got lots of reading to do.
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Replace the tires and any rubber lines in the fuel system.
Clean the fuel tank.
Clean and rebuild the carburetor with new o-rings,gaskets and whatnot.
Rebuild anything hydraulic in the brake system.
Grease anything that moves.
Change the gearbox fluid.
Install a new air filter and spark plug and see what you have.
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That's pretty cool, I haven't seen one of those in years. Back in the late 70s when we lived in Destin, Florida, a girl I was friends with won a moped from the local AM radio station, WNUE. It was fun putting around on that thing.

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What's next ... posting pics of fat chicks you rode ?

Old joke .... hope ya get the reference...

Very cool
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Well, as long as I ou have it apart, slip on a 80cc conversion jug and piston��
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Jut saw that. Its is too cool.

Getting me some gas tomorrow, and see if I can get fuel into the carb. Hope it will start. You know what kind of oil it needs? I see the drain for what looks like for the gears. I can't seem to fine the fill and drain for the motor? Wonder if 30w oil will do?
It’s a two-stroke. The oil is mixed in with the gas. 50 to 1. I just use 30 weight for the gear oil.
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The original owners manual specified against using unleaded gas.

On my two strokes, I always used Yamalube 2R.

Gearbox fluid was ATF type F.

https://vintagemopeds.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/puch-maxi-owners-manual.pdf
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The original owners manual specified against using unleaded gas.

On my two strokes, I always used Yamalube 2R.

Gearbox fluid was ATF type F.

https://vintagemopeds.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/puch-maxi-owners-manual.pdf
I saw that on the bike yesterday and wondered why? Maybe no lube from unleaded, but lube is mixed in the gas?
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I have no idea what the reasoning was. In a 70’s four stroke, it was usually to prevent valve recession but that won’t apply to a two stroke.
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BADASS!!

x2. you wired up a TESLA charger!!

and you got a free moped!!

just how much crap did this person have in his garage?!
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BADASS!!

x2. you wired up a TESLA charger!!

and you got a free moped!!

just how much crap did this person have in his garage?!
I wired it up for him because he was a nice guy and never wanted any money or anything from him. He and I moved in the neighborhood all within 5 years apart with a bunch of old sour puss around at that time. He was first and helped me out when someone followed me home trying to steal my Acura Integra GSR a week after I bought it. He came out with baseball bat blazing and he was a built, big dude.

Most of it is film related stuff, 25 years of it. All got cleaned out into a big dumpster. Not too many people park in their garages up here. Narrow, windy street makes it difficult to get out.

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