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javadog 05-11-2022 08:05 AM

They would have been better off showcasing the unique flavor of Miami than trying to stage a fake Monaco.

I’m sure the entire world got a good laugh at our expense.

RBNetEngr 05-11-2022 10:03 AM

2022 F1 Thread
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stealthn (Post 11687102)
I am suspicious of the Redbull though, why they have so much speed unless aero was set to zero but that’s not the case. I mean with DRS on Charles’ car he could barely catch Max, seem suspicious to me…

At one point during the weekend broadcast (I believe it was pre-race), there was discussion with Christian Horner about setups, and he said that Red Bull chose a low downforce setup that would optimize top speed at the expense of speed in the curves, whereas Ferrari chose a higher downforce setup to provide more grip in the curves at the expense of top end speed. And he said that the race results would show who chose the correct setup.

I guess we know which one was correct. During FP3 and Qualifying, the Red Bull cars were hitting 336-337 kph at the end of the fastest straight, whereas the other teams were reaching the high 320s or maybe 330kph. That’s the difference that DRS provides! So, that’s why, even with DRS enabled, Ferrari/LeClerc couldn’t close the gap on Max. DRS just made them equal.


-rb

oldE 05-11-2022 11:17 AM

Given that information, one would be led to believe Max is better at looking after his tires than Checko or either Ferrari driver. In the past few races Max has managed his pace for a few laps then run his race. A very disciplined strategy.

Best
Les

Tervuren 05-11-2022 01:21 PM

She's a lot better when the cameras are off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11687011)

Danika Patrick: she did ok but not great . To me she isn't very personable.


CurtEgerer 05-12-2022 06:50 AM

Road & Track sums it up. F1 has moved on to a new audience.

The Miami Grand Prix Knows What It's Selling

The inaugural Miami Grand Prix felt like something between a live taping of Drive to Survive and an overgrown Instagram prop. That was not a mistake.


https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a39947724/the-miami-grand-prix-knows-what-its-selling/

astrochex 05-12-2022 08:26 AM

^
Thank-you, Liberty media, for putting F1 race attendance further out of reach of the average fan and into the hands of those who just want to be seen.

URY914 05-12-2022 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 11690019)
^
Thank-you, Liberty media, for putting F1 race attendance further out of reach of the average fan and into the hands of those who just want to be seen.

It is now a social media event, not a race. :rolleyes:

Deschodt 05-12-2022 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URY914 (Post 11690205)
It is now a social media event, not a race. :rolleyes:

It's a super spreader too... Hearing lots of folks (regular and celebs) testing positive post race !

Tervuren 05-12-2022 12:59 PM

Its a very expensive live performance is it not...?
If one wants more affordable formula to watch in person it is out there in abundance.

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 11690019)
^
Thank-you, Liberty media, for putting F1 race attendance further out of reach of the average fan and into the hands of those who just want to be seen.


matthewb0051 05-12-2022 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 11690019)
^
Thank-you, Liberty media, for putting F1 race attendance further out of reach of the average fan and into the hands of those who just want to be seen.

This reminds me of the Kentucky Derby (hopefully I haven't said this yet) and ditto the "world championship" game of the NFL. My BIL went to KY Derby last weekend as a guest to one of the companies he does business with. I don't think he would have gone otherwise, not that big a fan.

I noticed many folks on social media posting that they attended at the $$$ of others, usually teams, sponsors, or corporations. I don't want to say who but their comments were all the same; great race, blablabla. I'm sure it was since you went for free.

My first race was in 2002 to Hockenheim and it was about $330 for 3 day admission and a seat directly across from pit lane. I get it that that was 20 years ago but I can't fathom the prices that this GP brought.

herr_oberst 05-12-2022 01:20 PM

Road & Track is behind a paywall now since I used up all my free views. How much did it cost to do the Miami weekend?

matthewb0051 05-12-2022 01:35 PM

^^^^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 11686679)
From what I can see, the resellers (Ticketmaster, Stubhub, etc.) bought all the tickets and the event was sold out the first day. Good for Liberty Media because they can say they have a sell-out. Since I'm only a couple hours away, some buddies and I wanted to go. We've been monitoring prices for months. At one point, even Friday practice seats started at $900. Raceday? $1800-$5000 each. We finally gave up planning. Friday morning, those $900 seats were down to $100. Of course there are tons of unsold tickets for today right now and they're down a bit but still $600 and up. :rolleyes: I get it, they are after a different customer these days.

Edit: also look at the article in link on previous page. There are direct stories from people that were interviewed. VIP was $30k. Others paid over $1,000 each and up.

I loved the part where the one lady said after Saturday she decided to stay at hotel and watch since it was so bush league.

javadog 05-12-2022 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11690383)
^^^^^



Edit: also look at the article in link on previous page. There are direct stories from people that were interviewed. VIP was $30k. Others paid over $1,000 each and up.

I loved the part where the one lady said after Saturday she decided to stay at hotel and watch since it was so bush league.

Yeah, that woman lives in Monaco and has gone to F1 races all over the world.

From what I understand, ticket prices started at $700 or $800 for a three day basic ticket and went up from there.

rusnak 05-12-2022 02:54 PM

I think that adding Las Vegas was a pure master stroke move from a business point of view. Not sure about Miami, but time will tell if there is a need to race in both Florida and Texas.

I have zero problem with the race appealing to the social media fans. But maybe people who have zero racing experience should not be given a microphone. No one benefits, including the younger fans, who might benefit from an experienced commentary.

David 05-16-2022 01:08 PM

We've got to get this kid into F1

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matthewb0051 05-16-2022 01:16 PM

^^^^

I just happened to see that. Pretty dang good driving.

I know there was a storm, but the stands were all but empty. No idea how Indycar can stay in business w/o butts in seats.

astrochex 05-16-2022 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 11693591)
We've got to get this kid into F1

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Here is an extended onboard that includes the above clip.

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URY914 05-16-2022 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 11693591)
We've got to get this kid into F1

Michael is trying.

rfuerst911sc 05-16-2022 04:38 PM

You are never going to see a save much better than that one . Amazingly quick hands . Talented kid .

CurtEgerer 05-17-2022 04:49 AM

I thought the Indy GP crowd looked pretty decent for the horrible weather conditions. The enormity of the facility tends to make it look empty? That was a great race to watch. There were 362 passes for position :eek:

URY914 05-20-2022 04:44 AM

https://manofmany.com/entertainment/sport/top-f1-driver-salaries-2022

Found the above on my apple news feed this morning.
I got questions:

How accurate are these numbers and were does this come from?

Do teams really provide this info on their drivers to the public?

Does F1 require them to release this?

The article does say this....
"Max Verstappen’s salary—as impressive it may be—is merely the tip of an iceberg that includes sponsorships, partnerships, investments, and all kinds of free swag, amongst other things. The same goes for any of the sport’s major stars." But I would think that they get bonuses for wins and podiums and points scored.

Interesting that Lando makes more that Ricardo. Does this mean Lando is the #1 driver?

Is Lance worth $10M??? And shouldn't this be called an allowance from his dad and not a salary?

Perez should be paid more.

Your thoughts???

matthewb0051 05-20-2022 04:48 AM

^^^
Speaking of Lance ... him answering the question this morning in FP1 regarding how their cars are now remarkably similar to Red Bull (no doubt with the help of those engineers that swapped teams), he looked like the cat that ate the canary. I'm surprised he didn't bust out laughing

yellowperil 05-20-2022 09:04 AM

After Practice 2
 
Ham looked happy for the first time this season.

GH85Carrera 05-21-2022 11:13 AM

Interesting Qualifying. Schumacher made it to Q3 for the first time. Both HAAS in Q3.

rfuerst911sc 05-22-2022 05:47 AM

Tough way to lose P1

yellowperil 05-22-2022 06:59 AM

That was a pretty good run for Ham
 
Given his position (last place) on second lap. IMO

herr_oberst 05-22-2022 07:11 AM

Probably the hardest he's ever had to drive™.

Looks like Russell is really starting to figure out the Benz.

astrochex 05-22-2022 03:59 PM

LeClerc fan here, I hated this race. Ugh.

upsscott 05-23-2022 05:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 11696840)
Ham looked happy for the first time this season.


He should be, that was an amazing drive.

GH85Carrera 05-23-2022 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowperil (Post 11696840)
Ham looked happy for the first time this season.

Only Hamilton can knock another car off the track and into the gravel, and still finish so high up. He punted Max into the wall, and somehow had no damage last year.

He is a talented driver, but he is so lucky, it is hard to beat him. George is really showing his talent.

Ferrari has some real reliability issues they need to figure out ASAP.

matthewb0051 05-23-2022 06:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11698428)
He should be, that was an amazing drive.

Only after the engineers told him to stay out and race. He wanted to retire the car the lap after he knocked K-Mag off the track. Looked like understeer though.

Deschodt 05-23-2022 08:06 AM

HAM Lap 2 : "Can I go home now, can we save the engine? What's the point? Whaaa"
Mercedes: "Hey do your job, you can salvage points"
Brit Media: "HAM driver of the day !!"

LOL...I miss US commentators.. Russell though, man, impressive kid!! Gutted for Leclerc and Ferrari, would have kept the fight interesting..

matthewb0051 05-26-2022 10:23 AM

Since when did FP1 and FP2 move to Friday in Monaco? It has always been on Thursday for reasons that escape me.

Scott Watkins 05-26-2022 10:24 AM

https://f1destinations.com/why-is-there-no-thursday-f1-action-at-the-monaco-grand-prix-this-year/

GH85Carrera 05-26-2022 10:44 AM

Wow, what crappy writing. A ton on asking the same core question time after time, them other unrelated blather, and way down in the article the answer to the question, sort of.

URY914 05-26-2022 11:23 AM

Please allow the F-cars to survive and win this weekend.

Scott Watkins 05-26-2022 01:28 PM

https://www.espn.com/f1/story/_/id/33986818/ex-f1-boss-bernie-ecclestone-arrested-brazil-illegally-carrying-gun

red 928 05-26-2022 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11701866)
Wow, what crappy writing. A ton on asking the same core question time after time, them other unrelated blather, and way down in the article the answer to the question, sort of.

as i was reading it, I was saying to myself
did martin brundle write this?
on and on with no real point
I gave up after about 75 paragraphs
so I never got to the answer

rfuerst911sc 05-27-2022 04:48 AM

Watching FP1 in Monaco that is a crazy narrow track . Have we reached a point where the new cars are too fast/wide/heavy for this track ?

herr_oberst 05-27-2022 05:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11702484)
Have we reached a point where the new cars are too fast/wide/heavy for this track ?

I think that ship sailed in about 1968, but they'd still race at Monaco if the cars were as big as Buick Rivieras.
Tradition über alles!
(Not to mention the pallets of money this race brings to anyone and everyone involved.)

I'm glad to see that Danny had some speed first practice. Can't help thinking his time at McLaren is going to be through soon if he doesn't sort things out, but projecting ahead it would be cool to see him in Indycar or even NASCAR. Wonder how Ferrari is feeling about Li'l Schumacher?

Remember when teams would have special suspension and steering just for Monaco and just for the Lowes (edit, Loews, sorry.) hairpin? I wonder what they do now?

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