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Well, congrats to Sergio! Way to go.
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The only thing I would do away with is the idiocy of celebrities in attendance. For example: Simone Ashley from Bridgerton refusing to even speak with Brundle. She couldn't even be bothered to say it herself, had to hide behind a publicist guy. The only reason I knew her name was because Martin said it, no idea who she is or what she does but she certainly thinks highly of herself. I was watching this past weekend and thought I saw several areas where they could widen. The chicane by swimming pool is pretty tight, nouveau chicane is too tight, last corner before start/finish straight is too tight. Seems like if they could push barriers back a bit here and there and it may be better. |
Yeah widen the Monaco race track a car width and add some nice grass run offs.
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It's history, all too easy in this day and age of everything bright, shiny and new is better to forget the past Once it's gone it's gone and motorsport and F1 will be a much duller world without it Without the race the Triple Crown becomes unobtainable :( |
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Weren't those new grandstands out in the water this past week? On way down to the swimming pool out on a dock. |
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For sure one day someone or some company will stop these races just to chase a few extra $'s :( |
I remember when the pool was added. Who approved that one? I sure a lot of money was involved.
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have history too, but they aren't real races monaco is a game of follow the leader where having the fastest car and the best driver does not matter it is the antithesis of a race remember not that long ago when Ricky Riccardo was way down on power, several seconds per lap slower than even the back markers? He still led and won the "race" because he blocked anyone who tried to pass what a joke that was they need to figure out a way to make it possible to actually race on the racetrack, or just make it an annual event for the fans but with no points |
While the weather added an element of suspense to the Monaco race, for me the race was still a yawner. With Alonso holding up the entire field so he could preserve his tires being the biggest disappointment.
When the race is a bore, and the win is based on pit strategy, it makes for a forgettable race. The biggest excitement was Mick Schumacher breaking his car in half. That’s twice now this season, right (Saudi during qualifying, and now Monaco). -rb |
This next race in Baku is much more exciting for me. Amazing to see the cars fly down those streets.
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As quoted from Magnussen... "For all those years, our team was spread out over the world - the US, two places in Italy, one in England, so very spread out. In terms of communication, it makes it easier when you can just go to mate's desk and have a chat. "And of course, the cars shows that too. So it's in a good place Haas are heading in." This is why a fragmented F1 team located in different parts of the world with different time zones will never challenge for race wins The race ends at the track, not starts at the track |
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That’s excellent -rb |
Why do the news sites keep talking about scratching Monaco? Jeezus, give it a rest. If Monaco goes, then you might as well scratch all of the European races and merge with Indycar and complete the conversion to a spec series while you're at it.
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Best Les |
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Is it the " crown jewel " as a social event or as a race event ? To me there is a big difference . I have no problem with it as a social event. The million dollar yachts , hot bikini babes , celebrities and parties it's a social event.
But as a race venue ? In it's current configuration and the physical size of the cars it is basically follow the leader . There is an occasional pass for position but for me the " race " is a yawner . Tradition: very valuable to have and save. I am for it . Can the track be widened in sections to have space for passing ? Don't know. But it should be looked into . Or maybe F1 just says it is a social event and keep on rocking 😁 |
Who needs Monaco? They have Miami now. ;):rolleyes::(
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Seems the spectacle F1 venues and Instagram qualities are more of a priority than the quality of the on track racing. The Monaco winner did make me happy. :D http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654268169.jpg |
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The narrow streets of Monaco, or Azerbaijan for that matter are part of the allure. How many F1 World champions have dnf'ed out of Monaco? Yup. That's why it's an accomplishment to win at Monaco. And it's a total scrum from P2 on back. This business that it's not real racing - would you tell Leclerc that every time he didn't make it to the checkered flag he was not really racing? There have probably been a million suggestions to hit the "Easy" button and make the streets of Monaco wider. But to say that is to misunderstand the spectacle of it all. It's chaotic. It's insane. And it's totally awesome. |
I don't attend F1 events so the social/Instagram qualities are of no value to me.
Watching the race on TV, and seeing Alonso control and back up half the field is a problem. Not an Alonso issue more of a track issue. I respect the Monaco history but have eyes open that the history they are making today is not epic like the past history. Not every track has to be wide open like COTA but every track should have racing as interesting as the surrounding parties and VIP suites. |
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Losing Monaco or any of the other "legacy" tracks would be a shame, as tasty as those Bahrain-bucks probably are. |
The problem with Monaco are the cars are too big now...
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654272566.jpg http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654272585.jpg Really shocked to see an F1 car is now much larger than an Indy car :eek: http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1654272665.jpg |
Almost 19 feet long…
Just for comparison’s sake, the smallest car in that picture, the LMP1, is a foot and a half longer than an 80’s 911. The F1 car is almost 5 feet longer than the ‘80s 911. Ridiculous. |
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I knew they were big, but I had no idea. The average home garage in many older houses would be a really tight fit to hold one of those! I had to whip out my tape measure. My 86 El Camino is just inches under 17 feet long. So a F1 car is about two feet longer than my El Camino. |
The only vehicle I’ve ever owned that’s longer than a modern F1 car was my Ford F250 super duty extended cab truck.
An F1 car is more than a foot and a half longer than my old LWB S-class Mercedes, or my old long wheelbase Audi A8L… |
Back in the olden days of no El Camino, I borrowed a buddies truck to pick up a crate from a trucking company. I had my 914, and we swapped vehicles for the day. He had a F-250 long bed, crew cab. So the full 8 foot bed, and a back seat. I felt like I was driving a cruise ship. He said driving my 914 felt like he was in a roller skate. He had owned a Fiat X-19 in the past and he said he forgot how small sports cars are. I returned it full of gas, and remember almost crying at the fuel bill back in the very early 1980s.
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I try to like street races.
Agree F1 car has the foot print of my crew cab dually. Cost would go down per foot if they made F1 cars smaller, improves racing/passing? Save all the historic sidewalks of Monaco from race track improvements too. |
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1. Organic road race track. 2. Temporary Street track. 3. Temporary Parking lot track? mb parking lots make better beer gardens? |
That's it then. Next year's Monaco racecars will be duallys from Ford, Dodge and GMC's.
I'm betting on Max in a Ford F-350. |
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I wonder if F1 has had to add another 747 to the fleet that transports these things to the flyaway races…
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• IndyCar, and the FIA strike a deal to make Indianapolis and Monaco dual points races - and the cars will be run under the rulebook set forth by IndyCar. There's precedent for this - the Indy 500 used to be part of the World Championship, back, back, back in the day. • Allow current IndyCar teams to strike deals with current F1 teams for driver swaps. • (The current date for Monaco is probably going to be changed anyway due to Liberty's desire to have F1 races line up better graphically, so there should be no scheduling conflict going forward, anyway.) |
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