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ted 10-31-2022 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11834816)
Great eye candy!

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Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 11834853)
^^Agreed!!^^:D

Yes eye candy. :D
But it was ear garbage to listen to her during FP2 for 90 minutes. ;)

Rtrorkt 10-31-2022 07:24 AM

^^^
Her quote, “no one will be using the hard tire today”

rfuerst911sc 10-31-2022 08:09 AM

Danica's shocked look when one of the other talking heads said the cars would be hitting 220 mph on the long straight was priceless . As an ex racer and now commentator how can you not know that ? What a dim bulb .

GH85Carrera 10-31-2022 10:14 AM

There is little doubt she is on screen only because she is a pretty lady. She has some racing credentials, but knows very little about F1. She is certainly lots more understandable than Paul di Resta but she needs to become a fan of F1 and watch all the races for a while and learn about the F1 world.

matthewb0051 10-31-2022 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11835052)
Danica's shocked look when one of the other talking heads said the cars would be hitting 220 mph on the long straight was priceless . As an ex racer and now commentator how can you not know that ? What a dim bulb .

I'll attribute her dimness to being in racing series that are far less sophisticated than F1. Heck, NASCAR only stopped using carbs in 2012. There are people on this forum that have 911s from the 60s with fuel injection, albeit mechanical, but injection nonetheless.

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11835186)
There is little doubt she is on screen only because she is a pretty lady. She has some racing credentials, but knows very little about F1. She is certainly lots more understandable than Paul di Resta but she needs to become a fan of F1 and watch all the races for a while and learn about the F1 world.

She did look pretty dang hot yesterday. I'd say a bit like Tinker Bell.

I'm ok with DiResta and understand him w/o issues. But I've lived in the UK before so it may be different for me.

What killed me was during FP2 at Austin, Paul was totally explaining what was going on and it went right over her head as evidenced by her question of whether the teams knew what compound they were testing. He had literally just covered that point.

Deschodt 10-31-2022 11:21 AM

Funny to hear Verstappen and the entire RBR team were not talking to Sky TV in Mexico, boycotting interviews etc...

Apparently Ted Kravitz (pitlane guy for Sky) wrote something recently about Max stealing the WC last year from Lewis... Verstappen and RB had enough and are boycotting them, which impacts all Sky countries (UK, italy, etc) Created more whining from the british press... Kinda funny as I 'm neither a fan of RBR, nor of Sky, and starting to tire of the british press/commentary... Like watching people I do not like punch one another.

I have to say, I've been following F1 for 35+yrs and coverage/press is a British majority.. Over the years I've read a lot of british and other european F1 mags, watched Euro/brit/US coverage, and I gotta agree with Max.. I find the british press singularly biased and not shy to talk **** about any non british drivers while Saint Lewis never does any wrong. I think it's probably why uncounsciously I am not a Hamilton fan. By and large the brit press gave a lot of $hit the non-brit competition, be it Patrese/prost during the Mansell era, or anyone since Lewis came along...
Schumacher was the evil german, Alonso the machiavellian Spaniard, Vettel wasn't much loved until he stopped winning at redbull, Rosberg was often ridiculed and "not worthy" even after he beat Lewis..
Alonso recently said something about Verstappen titles being impressive because he beat other teams in good cars (slight dig at Hamilton's titles in a mercedes where he only had to beat a teammate - bottas or Rosberg). It's not untrue.. That created another furor... Kinda fun...

GH85Carrera 10-31-2022 11:34 AM

Yea, the British coverage is understandably very slanted toward all the British drivers, but extra so on Hamilton. My biggest pet peeve of all TV coverage of a race is showing the wife or team owner of a driver during the race. I don't care one bit about the wife or family of a driver looked at the race, show me the dang race! It happens in all TV race coverage.

Sky loves to talk about Hamilton and he is without a doubt a great driver. He has had the best car by a large margin for 10 years. He finally has some real competition for the other teams cars. Now is is just an also ran. Lots of podiums, and he gets everything out of his car, yet he can't compete with Verstappen.

Ferrari just can't get the strategy right.

matthewb0051 10-31-2022 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11835312)
Yea, the British coverage is understandably very slanted toward all the British drivers, but extra so on Hamilton. My biggest pet peeve of all TV coverage of a race is showing the wife or team owner of a driver during the race. I don't care one bit about the wife or family of a driver looked at the race, show me the dang race! It happens in all TV race coverage.

Sky loves to talk about Hamilton....

Ever notice how Sky don't talk, let alone acknowledge, Hamilton's mother? Pretty sure she was there yesterday but they only recognized his father. Same with his brother. Must be some demographic issue but I can't place my finger on it.

matthewb0051 10-31-2022 11:48 AM

I saw an interview with Hamilton last week regarding his potential retirement. The thing that stuck out was him saying, "we have more work to do. We need to get more women in the sport".

Hmmm

GH85Carrera 10-31-2022 12:27 PM

One thing for sure, no team will hire a female driver unless they are as fast as the men. No hiring them just because of demographics. To even get a shot they will have to be really good.

With that said the only sport that I know of on the planet that a woman is as good, or the very best of the best, is drag racing. 338.17 mph by Brittany Force in just 1,000 feet! 3.659 seconds! The current world record.

Under 4 seconds for the 1/4 mile was really fast, and they are doing it in 1,000 feet now. Brittany is as good as any man on the drag racing track.

So if we can find the Britany of go-carts and train her to be a F-1 driver there is a possibility. Now all that is need is lots of sponsorship money for her. Brittany was lucky enough to have a daddy like John Force. She was born into drag racing.

Deschodt 10-31-2022 12:55 PM

How about Jamie Chadwick ? She cleans the floor each year in the woman series. Why is she not in F2 ? If she's as good as she seems, what a great Advert for a team ? I don't get it... If I won the lotto I'd sponsor her, she seems like a decent/funny person too..

Eric Hahl 10-31-2022 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11835329)
I saw an interview with Hamilton last week regarding his potential retirement. The thing that stuck out was him saying, "we have more work to do. We need to get more women in the sport".

Hmmm

Maybe Lewis is ready for a change?

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ted 10-31-2022 02:36 PM

Kinda funny.
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Rtrorkt 10-31-2022 04:01 PM

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Ms Force at Long Beach

astrochex 10-31-2022 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Deschodt (Post 11835397)
How about Jamie Chadwick ? She cleans the floor each year in the woman series. Why is she not in F2 ? If she's as good as she seems, what a great Advert for a team ? I don't get it... If I won the lotto I'd sponsor her, she seems like a decent/funny person too..

Not saying she is slow, but maybe that speaks to the level of competition in the W Series. If she is so good, she should have been closer to the pace in her first Indy Lights test.

URY914 11-01-2022 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11835325)
Ever notice how Sky don't talk, let alone acknowledge, Hamilton's mother? Pretty sure she was there yesterday but they only recognized his father. Same with his brother. Must be some demographic issue but I can't place my finger on it.

Could be she's a private women and doesn't want to me on camera. Don't try to may it a bigger issue.

greglepore 11-01-2022 04:45 PM

Nice mainstream piece about Toto and Mercedes and their travails this season in the New Yorker. No link as "paywall".

Captain Ahab Jr 11-01-2022 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11835329)
I saw an interview with Hamilton last week regarding his potential retirement. The thing that stuck out was him saying, "we have more work to do. We need to get more women in the sport".

Hmmm

With the exception of drivers there are 100's of women working in F1

Alpine are probably leading the way.....
https://www.topgear.com/car-news/formula-one/heres-how-alpine-plans-find-next-female-f1-driver

Had a tour of the Alpine factory a few weeks ago, the very same factory I worked at over 20yrs ago

The single most noticeable difference other than most of people looked like they should be in school :( was there were women in nearly every area of the factory

Machinists, laminators, mechanics, engineers, designers, planners, buyers, shop floor, office, upstairs, downstairs and everywhere etc, etc

Was really impressive to see it wasn't just corporate speak

pwd72s 11-01-2022 05:07 PM

Hamilton: "I've driven over 200 MPH".

B. Force: "Actuually..."

ted 11-02-2022 05:19 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11836630)
Hamilton: "I've driven over 200 MPH".

B. Force: "Actuually..."

How hard can drag racing be if John Force taught both his daughters how to do it. ;)

GH85Carrera 11-02-2022 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ted (Post 11836880)
How hard can drag racing be if John Force taught both his daughters how to do it. ;)

The be the world record holder, and going way over 300 MPH in under 1,000 feet is the sign of a real pro.

Look at it this way, if Hamilton took is car right from Mexico, and backup up 3/4 of a mile and went flat out to top speed, and she launched from a dead stop as he went across the line, she would beat him to the finish line 1,000 feet away.

ted 11-02-2022 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11836907)
The be the world record holder, and going way over 300 MPH in under 1,000 feet is the sign of a real pro.

Look at it this way, if Hamilton took is car right from Mexico, and backup up 3/4 of a mile and went flat out to top speed, and she launched from a dead stop as he went across the line, she would beat him to the finish line 1,000 feet away.

But in drag racing there is no apex and no brakes?
Look at it this way a dragster can't turn or stop.
A short straight is all it can do. lol
After a 1/4 mile pass the end of track interviews are funny.
Dragstrip drivers get jacked up after a 5 second race. :D

rfuerst911sc 11-02-2022 09:14 AM

If anyone thinks driving a 7000 HP dragster is easy and takes no skill they need to put down the crack pipe . They pull G's like an astronaut and the car fights you to go in a straight line . Yeah it's over in 5 seconds or less but certainly not easy . And don't overlook lightning quick reaction time .

GH85Carrera 11-02-2022 09:39 AM

Drag racing is a skill all its own. And the a top fuel levels the physics alone is just mind blowing. Only top speed runs go faster than many of the top speed racers at Bonneville, and they do it over many miles, not in a 1,000 feet.

At a Porsche Parade a few years ago Michelin held their "test and compare" event. No charge to run, and they put us in a brand new Cayman S and we did a launch control drag race and had to stop inside of a stop box. There were two identical Caymans, except on was on Michelins, and the other was on Continental tires. They had a human "flagger" drop his arms and all we had to do was release the brake pedal and hold on, and judge when to slam on the brakes and do a max stop. It was lots of fun, especially since it was not my car, not my tires, not my gas.

I won two drag runs, and then a guy beat me. They did an overall head to head and in the end with lots of Porsche owners, the winner was a "late 70 something" man that was a retired drag racer. It is all about reaction time, and experience.

Everyone needs to go see a top fuel dragster at least once in their life. Zero to 100 in under one second. They pull 5 Gs, They Consume 15 To 22 Gallons Of Fuel Per Mile, Their fuel pump system can pump out 77 gallons per minute at full throttle, and make up to 11,000 HP.

ted 11-02-2022 09:57 AM

John Force could not survive 5 minutes in an F1 car, he is old, fat and lacks the physical qualities that are characteristic of athletes, such as strength, fitness, and agility road racing requires.
I've attended 20 TF races at Pomona, a spectacle yes.

Tony Stewart spent his prime racing years in Indy, Nascar and Sprint cars what automotive sport did he choose in retirement, drag racing.

GH85Carrera 11-02-2022 10:37 AM

I guess Alonzo is now the old man of F1 at age 41. Yea, John Force is never gonna race in F1 but few humans ever will. No doubt F1 is a league of their own in expensive high tech cars, and huge budgets. I love F1, but the FIA sure could be improved like many things French.

Drag racing and F1 have only the fact they run on four rubber tires and consume a petroleum derived fuel with a human driving it, and the object is to win. Not much else connects them.

Drag racing was traditionally the purview of back yard garage mechanics and home grown performance. Run what ya bung was the mantra. F1 has long since gone from the days of a small team building their own car and winning.

I have seen the clip of Richard Hammond trying to drive a older F1 car, and he could not go fast enough to keep the tires warm. He could not, like I suspect all of us, go faster to be able to make the corner as he was going too slow.

ted 11-02-2022 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11837088)
If anyone thinks driving a 7000 HP dragster is easy and takes no skill they need to put down the crack pipe . They pull G's like an astronaut and the car fights you to go in a straight line . Yeah it's over in 5 seconds or less but certainly not easy . And don't overlook lightning quick reaction time .

The highest Gee in drag racing is when the chute opens.
I drag raced for 25 years and then road raced for 25 years, do you have racing experience? :confused:

Deschodt 11-02-2022 10:53 AM

I'm a Euro racing snob at heart (WRC, Old style DTM, Le Mans style, F1).
Years ago a friend took me to Ocala to see drag racing, and it was the most impressive thing I ever witnessed. On par with a space shuttle launch or being buzzed by an F15 breaking the sound barrier.
The sheer force of the vibrations and noise going through your entire body, the noise/flames/takeoff speed, blowups, an amazing feast for all senses... Also the crowd in ocala was "interesting". I highly recommend it at least once in your life. I recently took my kids to Sears point to see an NHRA race once for that reason. Same experience (including "interesting crowd")

rfuerst911sc 11-02-2022 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ted (Post 11837223)
The highest Gee in drag racing is when the chute opens.
I drag raced for 25 years and then road raced for 25 years, do you have racing experience? :confused:

No I do not . Was what I said wrong ? Your expertise is valuable and would like to hear your comments .

ted 11-02-2022 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 11837233)
No I do not . Was what I said wrong ? Your expertise is valuable and would like to hear your comments .

Good to know. :rolleyes:

Deschodt 11-02-2022 11:00 AM

So, on an F1 topic, who thinks Gasly should do something to get 2 more penalty points and get his race ban with alpha tauri instead of next year ? I do ! Wait for a safety car, and drop back 20 car lengths, no danger, done... Everyone wins ! Alpha tauri gets to run Nick "Debris" (devries, LOL Carlos) during Gasly's ban - they are happy, and alpine gets a "clean" driver. Knowing the FIA they'd probably penalize him for self penalizing though !

On a side note, how is Gasly (fairly clean driver overall) at that point tally and Stroll is not ? Some of those penalties are a bit strange

Rtrorkt 11-02-2022 11:09 AM

Porsche F1 again

https://flatsixes.com/porsche-motorsports/report-porsche-is-almost-done-negotiating-a-deal-to-buy-50-of-f1-team-williams-grand-prix/?awt_a=8R0L&awt_l=bvzV9M&awt_m=3aHBQxEOkg5gG0L

astrochex 11-02-2022 11:56 AM

I like the angle of the challenge of teaming with Williams versus teaming with Red Bull. It would not be an easy task with Red Bull, but it would be a great challenge to have success with Williams. I will be very enthused if this happens.

rfuerst911sc 11-02-2022 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ted (Post 11837234)
Good to know. :rolleyes:

According to this article a top fuel dragster pulls 8 G's during acceleration vs the space shuttle pulling 3 G's . So I think my comment was valid . I really did want to hear your perspective because of your experience . But you chose not to . That's fine back to F1 .

https://www.hotcars.com/heres-what-a-top-fuel-dragster-and-the-space-shuttle-have-in-common/

nota 11-03-2022 06:07 AM

there is a level of skill to control the wheel spin the hole shot the timing

the guy who built the austin healey with a v8 had that level of control

he never raced his car at the track
did not want others to know how fast it was
to protect his street racing cash flow

others in tight races would hire him at the track
as they knew he had the touch

stealthn 11-03-2022 06:54 AM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 11837304)
I like the angle of the challenge of teaming with Williams versus teaming with Red Bull. It would not be an easy task with Red Bull, but it would be a great challenge to have success with Williams. I will be very enthused if this happens.

This exactly!

I hope it goes through and over the first few seasons we see gradual results. The RB deal would not have looked good for Porsche.

David 11-03-2022 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11837122)

Everyone needs to go see a top fuel dragster at least once in their life. Zero to 100 in under one second. They pull 5 Gs, They Consume 15 To 22 Gallons Of Fuel Per Mile, Their fuel pump system can pump out 77 gallons per minute at full throttle, and make up to 11,000 HP.

+1,000!

I've seen all manner of professional racing and the one that really stands out it top fuel. The sound, the pressure on your chest, and the methane in your eyes (this part is not so bad anymore as the tuning is so spot on) is difficult to understand without experiencing it.

I took my wife a couple years ago. We were sitting row 2 at about 60 feet. She thought Pro Mod was loud. Then she thought Alcohol was loud. Then she thought the Top Fuel burn out was loud. She couldn't believe when the Top Fuel launched. She leaned into me and said, "I think I'm gonna be sick!" Of course everyone sitting around us busted out laughing.

matthewb0051 11-03-2022 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by astrochex (Post 11837304)
I like the angle of the challenge of teaming with Williams versus teaming with Red Bull. It would not be an easy task with Red Bull, but it would be a great challenge to have success with Williams. I will be very enthused if this happens.

I miss the good old days of Williams being a top team. Still have my Ralf Schumacher Williams team hat.

Maybe the Captain can opine on what it would take for Williams to ascend to the throne again. But one thing for sure is they need Latifi gone, which is happening so that's a plus

herr_oberst 11-03-2022 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11837978)
I miss the good old days of Williams being a top team. Still have my Ralf Schumacher Williams team hat.

I still have my pit shoes from when I worked at Nike.
Relegated to yardwork duty, now. :rolleyes:
I just can't have nice things.

(I really should have just stashed these in a box and brought them out for special events but I used to get so many shoes that this was just another pair.




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red 928 11-03-2022 12:37 PM

on a board like this,
unless you were world champion there is probably
someone else here who has BTDT just as much.
Maybe more.

a top fuel dragster pulls up to 8 G's at the hit of the throttle
and averages 5 G's through the 1000 yards.
If the drivers felt more than 8 G's NEGATIVE from the chutes,
we'd be seeing a lot of detached retinas.
That's just about the physical limit (without injury).


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