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matthewb0051 11-21-2022 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 11853711)
Cigarette money gaves the world the best race liveries ever :cool:

Quite funny thinking back now but a F1 team I worked for created from tobacco money gave everyone a 20 packs of cigarettes every few months as an employee perk :eek:

Funny that no team ever sported the Senior Service Ciggy livery though.

One of my favs was Eddie Jordan's Bitten and Hisses

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669067994.jpg

astrochex 11-24-2022 11:33 AM

This is fun https://twitter.com/_richardparry_/status/1594857432236593152?s=46&t=ypueg7tQZ12ZpaAXcljQWg.

Noah930 11-24-2022 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11853722)

One of my favs was Eddie Jordan's Bitten and Hisses

Don't forget the grid girls from those days, too. ;)

astrochex 11-24-2022 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 11856484)
Don't forget the grid girls from those days, too. ;)

I still have my Club Jordan magazines via the Team Jordan fan club. They often featured their lovely umbrella girls. Fwiw, Motogp again includes the beautiful brollies.

astrochex 11-27-2022 06:09 AM

High-res version if the Richard Parry Red Bull brilliance, https://richardparrydesign.wetransfer.com/downloads/11886fea3eaeaa64b9446d03140f288320221122002922/8d814b

He has also given Mercedes and Ferrari the same treatment, https://lnk.bio/_richardparry_

rfuerst911sc 11-29-2022 02:10 AM

Mattia Binotto has officially turned in his resignation at Ferrari effective the end of this year . Let's see who Ferrari picks as a replacement .

Rtrorkt 11-29-2022 05:57 AM

Apparently the replacement is the Alfa guy Vassuer

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/63758235

Captain Ahab Jr 11-29-2022 06:46 AM

Losing Binotto will be a backward step for Ferrari, don't think he was doing a bad job

Redbull and Mercedes will be quietly pleased as they'll be out of the championship contender picture for at least the next 3yrs

I'm sure McLare, Alpine and Astom Martin will see it as their golden opportunity to break into the top 3

astrochex 11-29-2022 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Ahab Jr (Post 11859450)
Losing Binotto will be a backward step for Ferrari, don't think he was doing a bad job

Redbull and Mercedes will be quietly pleased as they'll be out of the championship contender picture for at least the next 3yrs

I'm sure McLare, Alpine and Astom Martin will see it as their golden opportunity to break into the top 3

Its very interesting to hear your informed perspective, Captain, versus the ravings of F1 fans on motorsport bulletin boards. Thanks.

Deschodt 11-29-2022 07:01 AM

I'm conflicted about Binotto too.. On the one hand he must have been a great boss to work for, covering his troops, instilling a culture of no-fear-for-mistakes. But on the other hand the F-ups have been fast and furious this year, to an unprecedented level.
With THAT car and those drivers, they shoulda contended a lot longer and ultimately he is the boss. Maybe too nice a guy. Also they ran out of upgrade $$ 4 races before other teams, not well managed. Yeah conflicted. Vasseur was a great manager in F2, but he has not set Alfa on fire either. We shall see ! Gonna be a long winter !

rusnak 11-29-2022 11:20 AM

Ferrari have lost quite a bit of technical leadership now. They needed a stronger manager, and somone who "understands" the Ferrari culture. If they bring in someone from the outside, it's going to be another body over the wall in a year or so.

herr_oberst 11-29-2022 12:02 PM

I can't find where Vasseur is confirmed? Is that a done deal? The rumor mill suggested there was a chance that Brawn might be coming back?

CurtEgerer 11-29-2022 12:18 PM

So many tobacco liveries over the years. Marlboro probably being the most iconic in that it never changed much and was instantly recognizable across many different motorsports. My favorite is probably Lotus' JPS since my interest in F1 started around 1977-78.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669756702.jpg

mocha07 11-30-2022 08:25 AM

https://youtu.be/mjHYQIfs1Jo

Daniel Ricciardo Opens Up About Red Bull Return

Captain Ahab Jr 12-02-2022 02:31 PM

Been a, pinch myself I must be dreaming week....

Had a senior F1 FIA engineer round for supper, great to catch up with an old friend, really interesting to hear about the approach to the 2026 regulation changes. More electrical power, sustainable fuel, narrower/shorter cars, less drag and multiple DRS systems. Also reassurrig to know there are more prospective teams/motor manufacturers wanting in than there are available spaces

Then last night a friend invited me out to the pub with a few of his friends, only 6 of us but a combined +200 years of world championship motorsport experience. :eek:

I'm just a lowly desk jockey but a few of the other guys have engineered F1 legends like Schumacher, Alonso, Vettel, Hamilton etc and rally legends like McRae, Burns, Loeb etc

Between us the experience spanned 24hr Le Mans, F1, WRC, Indy car, Dakar, Touring cars, Sebring 24hrs, Daytona 24hrs etc etc

Working with/for Porsche, Aston Martin, Honda, Ferrari, Renault, Alpine, Subaru, Mini, Alfa Romeo, VW, BMW etc works teams

Topics covered wasn't podcast conversation worthy as motorsport talk was brief. Too busy discussing, house insulation, solar panels, EV cars, crap cars we/our dads owned, home heating options, home renovation projects, holiday destinations etc :rolleyes:

Anyone eves dropping would have thought it was just a table of, boring, middle aged dads out for a drink. They'd have been right too! ;)

astrochex 12-02-2022 02:41 PM

Wonderful! Boring is the curse of familiarity. Any of us pikers from outside your world would be drooling just from your summary of the CVs. Cheers!

Captain Ahab Jr 12-02-2022 02:54 PM

Paul, I forgot to add, as I don't go out much, the evening was only a tiny, bit more fun than my one and only Pelican meet up

That was with Jim-Bob (Lowyder993s) and his friend Joe-bob eating pizza and drinking beer in Maranello many, many years ago

herr_oberst 12-02-2022 03:10 PM

It's a good thing there weren't any interlopers at that table asking questions like what was it really like working with Steve Nichols and Gordon Murray and how did you get the paint off the MP4/4 between races and was Steve Matchett as good a mechanic as he likes to remember he was?

But man, Captain Ahab, Jr., I envy your life....

HarryD 12-02-2022 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 11859771)
So many tobacco liveries over the years. Marlboro probably being the most iconic in that it never changed much and was instantly recognizable across many different motorsports. My favorite is probably Lotus' JPS since my interest in F1 started around 1977-78.



http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1669756702.jpg

That is my favorite Livery. There is just something about it. Along with the 1967 Lotus 49.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1670026908.jpg

Captain Ahab Jr 12-02-2022 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11862941)
It's a good thing there weren't any interlopers at that table asking questions like what was it really like working with Steve Nichols and Gordon Murray and how did you get the paint off the MP4/4 between races and was Steve Matchett as good a mechanic as he likes to remember he was?

But man, Captain Ahab, Jr., I envy your life....

No envy necessary, just need pity, mega-struggling at the moment, fighting against the systems, taking a good beating which is wearing me down

Glad you mentioned Steve Nichols, Gordon Murray and the McLaren MP4/4

Been a real social butterfly lately and remembered to ask another friend who came over for dinner last weekend

My friend is easily one of best F1 designers I've worked with. He makes the super complicated, super simple. He says it as it was or as it is with no bull5hit so I believe 100% of what he says

He also happens to have been one of the designers that worked on the MP4/4 as part of the small design group of around 12

In a nutshell he said the MP4/4 was the evolution of Gordon's last Brabham, the BT55. The MP4/4 was mostly his design and he knew the answers to most of the questions about the design of the car

Just looked through an article about the MP4/4 and spotted another familiar name I know well, who happens to be where I'm working at the moment. Next time I see him I'll ask him about his opinion too and report back

As for Steve Matchett, I worked at the same team as him, remember most of the good mechanics back then but can't remember if he was any good or not


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