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sc_rufctr 02-03-2022 11:40 PM

You're right Stijn. The one big problem with fixed cameras... People speed between them.

But I have given enough money to the Gumbit over the years and I have no desire to give them anymore so I don't speed... Ever!

svandamme 02-04-2022 12:47 AM

and that is typically fixed with trajectory control
they are doing away with speed cameras here, and put TC in place

Drive through gate 1
6 miles down the road
Drive through gate 2
presto, average speed is known and you get ticketed

I actually like it because all the idiots drive constant 120kph on the clock
if they get held up by a truck for 2 miles.. they go back to 120kph
their average is then 105 at the end

First, I drive on the actual GPS speed
so no speedo error

Second, I use the allowed error correction on the TC (+6%) - 1 kph for safety margin
So basically 1+2- I drive 130 on the clock 126GPS

Lastly , If I get held up by a truck, I can catch up the difference
My goal is an average of 126 on the GPS over the entire TC

the nice thing is.. All them idjuts blocking the left lane.. They cannot speed up to block me on overtakes.. well they could cause they drive under the average.. but they think they will magically get ticketed by the trajectory control at the end... so they don't.

I personally think it's much safer to have a speed difference to the rest, because that keeps you active and awake
if you drive 50 miles.. and you drive the 50 miles doing the exact speed as the one in front of you, left of you, right of you and behind you
you will be part of a cluster and the view outside your windshield will not change for 50 miles.
You will not be an active driver, you will not be looking ahead.
It dulls people to the lowest common denominator , and trust me, it's very low in terms of awareness and driver ability

I'de rather be speeding a bit, and be active.. then to become a passenger to my own unconscious auto pilot routine

sc_rufctr 02-04-2022 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11597123)
and that is typically fixed with trajectory control
they are doing away with speed cameras here, and put TC in place

Drive through gate 1
6 miles down the road
Drive through gate 2
presto, average speed is known and you get ticketed

...

We have the same setup on our Freeway leading to Murray Bridge. The two points are 10KM apart.

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fintstone 02-04-2022 06:36 AM

The plan does not limit the massive spending on surveillance to fixed cameras or even those that only enforce speeding. According to Secretary of Transportation, the purpose of speed limit cameras is largely to create "equity" among those getting tickets as certain groups tend to get a disproportionate amount of traffic tickets. Of course, studies show that those same groups get an even more disproportionate number of tickets in places where speed/signal enforcement cameras are already in use.

Otter74 02-04-2022 06:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11596377)
well obviously you don't wanna screw over the uncle, but rental companies aren't on the hook for rental drivers...

If I had gotten the notice from the rental company, sure; but I got the ticket directly from the autoroute authority or whoever it is that issues tickets. NBD, lesson learned. And I was paying attention to not drive too fast, but obviously not quite enough.

svandamme 02-04-2022 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11597127)
We have the same setup on our Freeway leading to Murray Bridge. The two points are 10KM apart.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1643971375.jpg


The real fun starts when there's an exit in the middle
We have one 11km apart, with an exit/onramp at 6..

There is no TC gate at 6.. Now think about the implications of that
And how fast a Cayman goes, it's great fun on early sunday mornings :cool:

cockerpunk 02-04-2022 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 11597095)
My desire to avoid spending vast amounts of tax dollars (intended to repair roads and bridges) on equipment to be used for surveillance of American citizens is a pretty simple concept.

I am shocked that such a simple notion left you so confused that you believe others are not aware of speed limits.

no, you'd just spend even more on more cops to do the same thing.

red-beard 02-04-2022 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 11594886)
I also got a red light ticket years ago when they were legal in Texas. It was a right turn that was set up to be a yield turn and then they added a camera. So totally revenue enhancement. I called to tell them I didn't run the light and they gave me a link to the camera footage. Sure enough, I barely slowed down :)

I got tagged at US290 & Jones Road. I stopped and then did a right on red. I planned to fight it, but Mrs. Beard saw the ticket while I was in Romania and panicked. Jersey Village...

fintstone 02-04-2022 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 11597723)
no, you'd just spend even more on more cops to do the same thing.

Why would I need cops to do the same thing? Are there not enough tickets given out now to suit you? If I were going to spend money on policemen, I would have them working on a lot more serious crime...like the massive crime wave in major cities, the record setting murder rate, or the fentanyl problem.

Seriously?

sc_rufctr 02-04-2022 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by svandamme (Post 11597722)
The real fun starts when there's an exit in the middle
We have one 11km apart, with an exit/onramp at 6..

There is no TC gate at 6.. Now think about the implications of that
And how fast a Cayman goes, it's great fun on early sunday mornings :cool:

Just for laughs... The last time I got "flashed" (Provided by the Police) The fine was around $170 & a loss of two points from memory.

Location Description: GRAND JUNCTION RD & HANSON RD, OTTOWAY, SA
Date/Time: 30/03/2018 14:15

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svandamme 02-05-2022 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11598184)
Just for laughs... The last time I got "flashed" (Provided by the Police) The fine was around $170 & a loss of two points from memory.

This was 2019, the Schwarzwald B500 HochStrasse
One of the most beautiful roads in Europe and as Top Gear would say... in the wooooorld
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1644086885.jpg

https://www.google.com/maps/dir/48.4944241,8.2492595/48.7405637,8.2581338/@48.5263706,8.1895212,11.92z/data=!4m2!4m1!3e0

Had driven there, just for that road, arrived at 4 AM.. no traffic no nothing
Enabled Beastmode but my Waze didn't warn me bout the Fotofinish at the end :D

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1644086210.jpg


165 euro and a month driving ban in Germany (which is no biggie since i rarely go to Germany anyway)

the High score has since been improved in Belgium, and that was way more costly (and the 15 day ban is effective since I live here)
Bimforce 1.20 has been a costly little car.. no engine noise, but 400 nm torque.. it never felt as fast when I was going fast.

in comparison, the Cayman is much faster, but you just know you are doing silly things because of the noise behind you.. Never had any tickets in the Cayman and it's not that the Bimmer is the only one that speeds.. contrary even


You got 165 bucks for 8 over the limit ?!??!?!?
and 2 points !?!
Whaaat
Speednazis much?

here, 6 over the limit is not even billed, that's the error correction
68 would be a 2 over the limit fine, that would be 55 euro

daepp 02-14-2022 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 11597988)
Why would I need cops to do the same thing? Are there not enough tickets given out now to suit you? If I were going to spend money on policemen, I would have them working on a lot more serious crime...like the massive crime wave in major cities, the record setting murder rate, or the fentanyl problem.

Seriously?

Great points!


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