How To Store A Spoon?

[masraum]

Originally Posted by cabmando

They make a lock box that opens like a drawer. It goes there when you go into work. It goes in the door pocket of the 911 when in route.

And have I ever mentioned that I love where I live?

Ah. kind of like a small cash register drawer. Probably works well in some cars/situations.

[bivenator]

Originally Posted by MRM

Or next time something like that happens you call 911 as it’s happening and tell the operator someone is acting in a way that threatens you and you let the people with badges who are paid to put their lives on the line take care of it. If it’s urgent enough to need a gun, it’s urgent enough to call 911. If you don’t feel comfortable dialing 911 you haven’t reached a point where a gun is necessary.

Valid points. This unfolded pretty quick, whether I could have been able to get my phone, position my thumbprint correctly and then dial 911 in that time frame while assessing whether I need to fight or flight. Maybe. There was a space after he initially brake checked me to where I passed him for good. I wasn't really interested in calling the cops because I needed to get to a safe area.

I think calling them at that time might have been prudent but we just had a situation where a guy lay in the street for a reported 2 hours after being shot before the cops arrived. Me calling in about a dirty gold tahoe with paper plates, well I understand there are more pressing calls.

I didn't have a lot of good choices that morning and this made me consider exercising my right to defend. i actually think that I would probably never flash my lights again if carrying because it is a huge responsibility and not one that I would take lightly. Or without proper training and maintaining.


Good suggestion cabmando, thats kinda what I hoped I might find.

[rusnak]

Originally Posted by cabmando

^^^
The best thing to do is get as far away from them as possible.

Agree 100%

Call 911 after you have made yourself safe. Again. It's no longer hypothetical, it is happening.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by bivenator

Valid points. This unfolded pretty quick, whether I could have been able to get my phone, position my thumbprint correctly and then dial 911 in that time frame while assessing whether I need to fight or flight. Maybe. There was a space after he initially brake checked me to where I passed him for good. I wasn't really interested in calling the cops because I needed to get to a safe area.

I think calling them at that time might have been prudent but we just had a situation where a guy lay in the street for a reported 2 hours after being shot before the cops arrived. Me calling in about a dirty gold tahoe with paper plates, well I understand there are more pressing calls.

I didn't have a lot of good choices that morning and this made me consider exercising my right to defend. i actually think that I would probably never flash my lights again if carrying because it is a huge responsibility and not one that I would take lightly. Or without proper training and maintaining.

when carrying or driving with a gun, there's a lot of "what if" to think about, and it's not quick, easy answers. I've never used a fire extinguisher at home, and hope I never need to, but I want one around just in case. Guns are an absolute last, last resort. You've probably also got to worry that you wait too long.
Fortunately, in a car, I think it's usually easier since you can likely get away more easily (usually).

[vash]

Would a flare pistol kill someone?

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by bivenator

and cut me off with a brake check,

Get bumper to bumper with him in front. the quarter of your bumper against the outside quarter of his. He will naturally brake so you accelerate and he'll go off the road. If the police get involved he was in the wrong brake checking you. I used to work for our SIS and this was part of the training they gave us.

[Fast Freddy 944]

Tazer zapper gun. Give em' Hell!

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by masraum

If you think you need a gun, then it might be too late for 911.

That's right. But once you're safe and/or the gunplay is over, the cops tend to believe the person who called them first. If the other guy took the room temperature challenge and can't call 911, even better. It's always best that the cops only hear your side of the story.

Glad I live in AZ, where there's not much ambiguity in carry laws. If you can legally own it, you can legally carry it, permit or no permit. Signs don't have the force of law (with some rare exceptions) unless you're first asked to leave and then refuse.

[Rick Lee]

Originally Posted by Fast Freddy 944

Tazer zapper gun. Give em' Hell!

No worse idea out there. What are you gonna do once it wears off? What if you miss? What if you hit a bullseye and it has no effect? What if the bad guy is permanently disabled, but lives to sue you into the poor house? If you can legally use a Taser, you can legally kill the guy with a gun and ensure yours is the only story the cops hear.

[David]

I just generally stay away from people who obviously make bad life decisions. Like getting violently upset about how someone else is driving.

I’m still a very aggressive and fast driver but I don’t take other’s driving personally and as soon as someone takes mine personally, I disengage. Now that might mean accelerating to triple digit speeds but so be it.

[bivenator]

I've seen your car David, you would be hard to catch.

I sure as hell don't want to shoot somebody but I felt at a great disadvantage that morning.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Rick Lee

That's right. But once you're safe and/or the gunplay is over, the cops tend to believe the person who called them first. If the other guy took the room temperature challenge and can't call 911, even better. It's always best that the cops only hear your side of the story.

Glad I live in AZ, where there's not much ambiguity in carry laws. If you can legally own it, you can legally carry it, permit or no permit. Signs don't have the force of law (with some rare exceptions) unless you're first asked to leave and then refuse.

Right, but I took the other poster to be saying, "instead of getting out your spoon , just call 911" which isn't that helpful if you think your life might be in danger.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by David

I just generally stay away from people who obviously make bad life decisions. Like getting violently upset about how someone else is driving.

I’m still a very aggressive and fast driver but I don’t take other’s driving personally and as soon as someone takes mine personally, I disengage. Now that might mean accelerating to triple digit speeds but so be it.

I resemble that remark...

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by rusnak

^ I don't think I'd fire a gun either, unless it was not a firearm. Too much risk of hitting a person behind, even with target rounds. And if you're carrying hollow point, well good luck in court.

You have some bad information (many times from the MSM who has an agenda). That said if you aren't going to properly understand handling a weapon, the laws in your state, and proper training, then it is better if you don't have a gun.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by masraum

Right, but I took the other poster to be saying, "instead of getting out your spoon , just call 911" which isn't that helpful if you think your life might be in danger.

Because when seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by cabmando

My concealed carry instructor, a close friend of mine, said to the entire group "don't let the fact that you can now legally carry a gun concealed change who you are".

B, what you did was the right thing and avoided confrontation. Some folks are just nuckin futs. The best thing to do is get as far away from them as possible.

+1
Don't go looking for a fight. Unfortunately, the fight sometimes comes looking for you even when you don't want one.

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by bivenator

Houston is number 2 in murders currently. I am pretty sure we have it in us to claw our way to the top.

I had an incident the other morning on my way to work that has me considering carrying a weapon. A guy rode my arse for a half mile with his brights on, after we both made a right at a light I slowed to let him go past. I flicked my lights once he was in front of me. He began to slow and when I was nearly even with him he accelerated and cut me off with a brake check, I went around on the left and he accelerated. He passed and got a 1/4 mile ahead and he came to a stop. I was driving slow as I wanted to let him go. As I neared his SUV now parked in the road he was exiting his car, I squeezed around and left him after pulling into a store parking lot. I don't know his intention but it wasn't good.

So, I work in hospitals and conceal carry isn't an option. I don't want to leave in the car.

What options are you Pelicans using?
My daily driver will often be the 911 so not a secure place for a weapon.

Talk to the hospital. Tell them you want a place to safely store your firearm. Even the Alamo has this!

[red-beard]

Scott,

On the lock-box, you will only put it in the box when you are leaving the vehicle to go to a prohibited place. Otherwise you will have it accessible at all times.

Even though we CAN carry without a license, I suggest you go through the classes. They are quite informative on the law (primary purpose) and they do a life fire check to make SURE that you can hit the broad side of a barn.

of the 8 hour class, 4 hours are telling you what you should not do, 2 hours are selling you concealed carry insurance and 2 hours getting everyone to fire pistols/revolvers at the range. It is good to know the law AND to know what will happen IF you have to use your pistol.

I _THINK_ they eliminated the "revolver only" license. At one time, if you brought a revolver, they gave you a "special" limited license, revolver only.

Again, I would have a talk with the hospital security. Arrange a place for safe storage. I had to go to Port of Houston and make a delivery. I had my pistol with me. They had a "no firearms" policy. I said fine, where would you like to store my pistol? They had security store it. You can work it out.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by red-beard

Scott,

On the lock-box, you will only put it in the box when you are leaving the vehicle to go to a prohibited place. Otherwise you will have it accessible at all times.

Even though we CAN carry without a license, I suggest you go through the classes. They are quite informative on the law (primary purpose) and they do a life fire check to make SURE that you can hit the broad side of a barn.

of the 8 hour class, 4 hours are telling you what you should not do, 2 hours are selling you concealed carry insurance and 2 hours getting everyone to fire pistols/revolvers at the range. It is good to know the law AND to know what will happen IF you have to use your pistol.

I _THINK_ they eliminated the "revolver only" license. At one time, if you brought a revolver, they gave you a "special" limited license, revolver only.

Again, I would have a talk with the hospital security. Arrange a place for safe storage. I had to go to Port of Houston and make a delivery. I had my pistol with me. They had a "no firearms" policy. I said fine, where would you like to store my pistol? They had security store it. You can work it out.

When I took the class years ago, it was, I'm pretty sure 8 hours. I never had anyone hawking insurance to me. I heard some years later that it had been shortened to either 4 or 6 hours.

I was curious what the current deal is since the permitless carry went into effect.

Apparently now you can take it online. (you do still have to find someone local for the shooting portion).

https://onlinetexasltc.com/
https://pointblankchl.com/texas-online-license-to-carry-class/
etc...

[red-beard]

Originally Posted by masraum

I was curious what the current deal is since the permitless carry went into effect.

If you want to be able to carry in other states, you need a license.