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herr_oberst 02-24-2022 12:05 PM

Here's a pair I fished out of the free pile a year or two ago. I had an idea that I might bolt them to my fence, or something along those lines.

Fisher Presidents mounted with Marker Rotomax. I have an inkling that these were probably State of the Art around the time I was learning to read a fall line.

(In spite of those minimalist bindings, these suckers are HEAVY! I suspect there's more steel than aluminum in the construction!)

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unclebilly 02-24-2022 08:27 PM

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This is my 9 year old daughter taken 2 weeks ago in her first real race.

I skied with her today and I can’t keep up.

unclebilly 02-24-2022 08:30 PM

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And this is her today… we had a fun day out finding pow in all the hidden spots a few days after the last dump.

plain fan 02-25-2022 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by porsche tech (Post 11614925)
Don’t know anything about the sport but always wondered why the competitors all wore the same big baggy outfits? The downhill skiers all wear skintight outfits…seems like all that baggy stuff would make their jumps and tricks and stuff more difficult.


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The "big baggy outfits" are worn by skiers and riders equally. You really can't compare two activities where one is all about minimal wind resistance and one that is about getting rotation with proper take offs and landings. You have to remember that both legs are strapped onto the snowboard.

gregpark 02-25-2022 01:28 PM

It's easier to hide your gun in baggy clothing. Gangland slope trash I tell ya!

JK of course, I accepted the changing scene decades ago. My daughter is a boarder, my son in law too and both of my eldest grand boys snow board. We've enjoyed many happy family days on the slopes. In fact, only my youngest grandson is a skier like me. I'm leaving my entire estate to him 😃

flatbutt 02-25-2022 02:53 PM

Baggies are far more comfortable allowing greater flexibility. Trying doing a seatbelt or buick grab wearing a downhill suit.

john70t 02-25-2022 06:23 PM

I haven't skied for a few decades, but I can honestly tell you that short parabolic skis make all the difference!

They are wide and flat. Noisy. Turn in and cut easy over moguls. They don't twist the knees as much when falling.
You go much slower. Bumps might be slightly harder. But so what.

Snowboards also don't crank the knee joints but the head/shoulders/hips are more at risk.

gregpark 02-25-2022 06:53 PM

I'm so old school. I'm still on 210 GS skis. I get lots of weird looks in the lift line. But they carve so much more gracefully and go so much faster. I have parabolic skis of course but I went back to the long boards

mjohnson 02-25-2022 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by gregpark (Post 11618572)
I'm so old school. I'm still on 110 GS skis. I get lots of weird looks in the lift line. But they carve so much more gracefully and go so much faster. I have parabolic skis of course but I went back to the long boards

Well, 110 seems a little short ;) unless you're speaking of width underfoot. I think my G3 Tonics (tele) and Gotamas (alpine) are only 105-ish.

A colleague now and then whips out his one-piece and 223cm DH boards just to terrify people. My old-school 203 Atomic GS rig, back in 1994ish, only really hooked up at 30mph+ for this (then) 140lb kid. When they were on song, they rocked, when they weren't it was a horror-show. At least I had the cool pink-panther langes, awesome at any speed.

Even at the local club race these days there are ample people laying down railroad tracks on skis that barely touch their chins. Modern ski tech is amazing...

mjohnson 02-25-2022 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by john70t (Post 11618554)
Snowboards also don't crank the knee joints but the head/shoulders/hips are more at risk.

Having moved over snow for over 20y, and an expert skier/racer, I tried the board. It was pretty natural, but whoah - gravity was like 10x normal and I hit the snow so many times and so violently!

Regardless of your method, embrace the winter and love the snow....

john70t 02-25-2022 09:02 PM

I learned in high school the most important lesson in skiing:
Don't do stupid stuff at the end of the day.
Quit when you are tired.

I tried a couple of 360s but only made it to 270 and stopped there. Aikido taught me how to fall.

The stupid one was a kick-out on an easy deep bunnyhill jump. Hooked the tips and dislocated my shoulder. Spent an hour in the med shack listening to blonde Betty talking with her girlfriend and then she ditched out without a word. My buddy drove me to the bumblefk hospital way out in the sticks. Finally late at night a drunk country doctor showed up, asked "does this hurt", and flung my arm into the air with a crack. Bless his heart for driving all that way for some stupid punk kid.

gregpark 02-25-2022 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 11618607)
Well, 110 seems a little short ;) unless you're speaking of width underfoot. I think my G3 Tonics (tele) and Gotamas (alpine) are only 105-ish.

A colleague now and then whips out his one-piece and 223cm DH boards just to terrify people. My old-school 203 Atomic GS rig, back in 1994ish, only really hooked up at 30mph+ for this (then) 140lb kid. When they were on song, they rocked, when they weren't it was a horror-show. At least I had the cool pink-panther langes, awesome at any speed.

Even at the local club race these days there are ample people laying down railroad tracks on skis that barely touch their chins. Modern ski tech is amazing...

Oops, I meant 210cm. (Dynamics). Hope I never break them, good luck replacing nowadays. Remember "reach up high as you can and the ski tip should at least reach your wrist"?
Ah, the old Atomics! I went through a few of those. The GS was the red sled? And the black and yellow bumble bee before those. And the slalom ski was dark blue. I remember back in the day there was a run at Squaw off the red dog chair with a sign at the top "200cm. and longer only". We skied that a lot, the bumps never got chopped up. Yeah, the new tech stuff is amazing but anyone can turn em. I remember a bumper sticker back then "big mountains deserve long boards". Things have changed

speeder 02-25-2022 11:59 PM

I skied on Rossignol slalom cut skis, 203cm. back in the dayo. Had some *****in' orange Hanson boots with the wax liners as well.

mjohnson 02-26-2022 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gregpark (Post 11618640)
...I remember back in the day there was a run at Squaw off the red dog chair with a sign at the top "200cm. and longer only"...

Wow that's a memory - I recall something similar at Winter Park/Mary Jane. And I had the red Atomic GS kit with ugly but sort of functional ESS bindings. They've long gone to the "ski swap in the sky" and are probably a park bench somewhere at the local hill.

I've got a pair of Icelantic Goliaths that, at like 177cm long and me having filled out to a beefy 160lbs, I'm not nearly enough of a man to manage. Shaq, maybe. Bought on a whim, they sit collecting dust. (psst, anyone want a pair of skis that will make you cry tears of futility?)

On the one-vs-two plank thing, I'll have to dig up my Blizzard of Aaahs (G Stump) video to relive the "hah hah look at the funny snowboarders" and some kicking late-80s music from ZTT records (Seal, Frankie Goes to Hollywood and the rest you've never heard of or even care to remember).

Tim Hancock 02-26-2022 06:04 AM

Unfortunately I got rid of my first 4 sets of skis from 70's and early 80's, but still have my Elan Comprex S 200cm slalom skis, then 193 Rossi, then into more modern K2s and Atomics. I am 5'8" and skied 200 Elan race skis back in college when I worked at ski shop. After college through present day, at 55 I only ski once or twice a year. Does not justify buying new stuff. I ski on the old lightweight K2 axisX skis mostly and mostly play in the bumps and jumps with them. I usually take my Atomic GS skis also if the place has Nastar racing.

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Tim Hancock 02-26-2022 06:10 AM

Heading to Boyne Mountain in Michigan in a few days for annual ski trip with college buddies. We are all in our 50's and we try and act like we are in our 20's for this trip. :)
Myself and a couple of the others still hit some jumps and ski the moguls. :)

We are typically the only guys over 30 something hitting jumps.
They did not have these kind of jumps back in the day so it took some soul searching for a few of us to get used to hitting these things at our "old" age. :)
No flips for us like the kids, but I can still manage a helicopter on a small jump on occasion.


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stevej37 02-26-2022 07:16 AM

^^^ Have you ever skied Boyne Highlands. A little further north...but spread out more.
Some great runs at either one.

Tim Hancock 02-26-2022 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11618960)
^^^ Have you ever skied Boyne Highlands. A little further north...but spread out more.
Some great runs at either one.

Have skied Highlands and Nubs many times. I personally like the Mountain the most. The vertical drop of all of them is similar. We stay on slope at Disciples condos. The mountain has the terrain I want to ski which is Ramshead terrain park, moguls typically off Meadows lift and Superbowl for high speed runs. When with college buddies we also enjoy the multiple bars and firepit at base for atmosphere. FWIW, the Mountain does now have some longer wooded greens at the north end for the wives or beginners.

Long blues/greens do nothing for me.

The mountain is also about an hour less drive.

I also like Holiday Valley in New York, but it is a couple hour longer drive.

ckcarr 02-26-2022 08:04 AM

I still use these. Haven't broken a leg yet!
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mjohnson 02-26-2022 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim Hancock (Post 11618983)
Have skied Highlands and Nubs many times. I personally like the Mountain the most.

Never Nubbed, but I loved Boyne Mountain. Dunno on lodging as, at the time, Grandma and Grandpa had a fine place on Lk Charlevoix.

I'm having bizarre 1992 memories of skiing at spring break in shorts (umbro life! - and I do still have them) and coming back to school in GR with a better (OK - face arms and legs) tan than the cool kids that went to South Padre or whatever.

But does anyone remember that place on the leelanaw peninsula? For the life of me I cannot remember the name but it was a great place, and somehow it got abandoned - like food still on the table. Whatever it's name, that's where I got my first turns in 1982.


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