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My first time!

To change the oil on my wife's 2017 Macan.




The first time I ever needed a torx bit for a oil change.
The first time I needed a door panel clip puller tool for an oil change.
The first time I ever had to search for several minutes to find the oil drain.
The first time I ever used a screwdriver to remove and install a oil drain plug.
The first time I had to look for more than 5 minutes to find the hidden oil filter.
The first time I ever needed a 32 mm socket to remove the oil filter.
The first time I ever needed a computer tool to reset the vehicle to let it know the oil change was done.
The first time I have ever used a OBD2 connection.
The first time I ever did not have a dipstick to check to the oil level when done.
After driving the Macan for a few miles it said the oil level was OK when the lever was checked.
I will have my wife check it after a longer drive and more miles.



The drain plug is a plastic screw that has about a half turn to remove and is replaced every time.



We bought the Macan brand new from a local dealership. They gave us a first oil change and inspection. Then the same dealership had a big blowout Le Mans watch party with free food, and some contests to draw the customers. They asked who there had owned their Porsche that was driven to the event the longest. I won that, and the prize was a free oil change. I was not going to have them change my 911's oil, so the Macan got oil change two for free. On number three I was out of town on a project, and she just paid for the dealership to do it. On the fourth change she had a major service done with new PDK fluid and a lot of other stuff done. So this one was mine to do.

At the same contest the dealership had long ago, they asked a trivia question that I knew but since I had won an oil change I remained silent. He asked one more time and I answered correctly, so they gave me a credit for parts. It was enough for two oil filters, and the o-rings and a new plug.

She is almost up to 20,000 miles so it is not mileage, it is just once per year oil changes. So far the car has been perfect. No issues at all.

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Congrats ! Love the garage set up.
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I recently changed the oil in our '17 Macan GTS.

Not a good experience - all went well except for the oil leak which covered the front of the engine.

Still under extended warranty so no cost to me, but still a bummer.

Typical problem for the S and GTS's. Broken bolts on the timing chain cover.

I asked the dealer how many Macans come in with this issue - he replied 'Too Many'.
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Congrats ! Love the garage set up.
24 years ago when my wife said we need to find a forever house, I was ready. We found this place as the first house we looked at. Oversized 3 car garage, with a workbench area to one side. And the ultimate, a bathroom in the garage. It is behind that door in the photo with the Macan on the lift. When I saw the garage, I said I am sold, this is perfect, I assume there is a kitchen and a bedroom attached. My wife saw the master bedroom, and the closet that is silly big, and she was happy. I love my garage. I have added heat and air conditioning that I did not need yesterday, and the lift.

We had to look at another 30 houses, and none measured up to this place. 24 years later we still have no plans to move.



We have added a ton of new flowerbeds and in the spring and summer it looks like a park with my wife hand, the master gardener at work.
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Lovely place you have there Glen. Weird story. Honestly....I think I will continue to drive cars that are old enough for me to mostly understand.
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^^^I am looking to swap houses currently. Found one with a big garage including a lift! Perfect for me. Wife? Not so much. I have garage envy!
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^^^I am looking to swap houses currently. Found one with a big garage including a lift! Perfect for me. Wife? Not so much. I have garage envy!
One of the things I really like about this place is the garage is on the side of the house, and not the main feature of the front of the house. So to get into the garage, we pull up the driveway, and have to turn left. There is a huge parking area and we can have three cars parked up there, and still get in and out of the garage. It does suck to have to shovel the snow however.



The flowerbeds are not in full bloom in this photo.
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Wife's 2013 Cayenne also does not have dipstick.... Pretty effin stupid. Most times when I want to check oil level on dash, it says it is unable at that time.
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Tim, it has to be at full oil temp, and idling on flat ground to check the level. The manual says a full fill in 3 ounces shy of 5 quarts. So I poured in most but not all of the oil from the 5 quart container, and just guessed at what 3 ounce looked like in the bottom of the oil jug. After I warmed it up, it said the oil level was correct. So I know I am close. I figure after she drives it a few times and it stall says level OK, I will know I nailed it. I really expected it to tell me it was just a bit shy of full. I have no idea how precise the reading is. It does not have any oil leaks, and I went for a short drive to get it warmed up before draining the oil. It said it was at full before I changed it.
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IIRC, the 993 requires removal of wheel well liner to get to the second oil filter, so door panel removal tool needed on that one.

BUT

I'm more interested in this poster in your garage:

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this sort of thing makes me throw up a bit in my mouth, but the way things will be weather I like it or not

Manufacturers only care about the first owners and those who will service at the dealership. One plastic oil pan step closer to disposable cars.
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Wife's 2013 Cayenne also does not have dipstick.... Pretty effin stupid. Most times when I want to check oil level on dash, it says it is unable at that time.
Our Land Rover Disco 4 (LR4) also has not dipstick. Every time I check the level I need a tutorial on how to access the menu. Can't start the vehicle because you can only read the oil level after 10 minutes of engine off. It is such a PITA. So it takes pushing start button without foot on brake then hit menu and blablabla. One mistake and you are waiting 10 minutes.
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IIRC, the 993 requires removal of wheel well liner to get to the second oil filter, so door panel removal tool needed on that one.

BUT

I'm more interested in this poster in your garage:

Ha!



It is a poster from the 1980s called Turbo and Lace. Back in the olden days when I was single it hung in my living room. Mrs. Carrera's decorating taste does not lend to "art" like this. So it hangs in the corner of the garage, next to my timing light, dwell meter and three larger wrenches that really don't fit in the tool drawers.

I store some lumber up against the ceiling, it is not a wood ceiling. The entire garage is insulated, and have sheetrock walls and ceiling.
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It is a poster from the 1980s called Turbo and Lace. Back in the olden days when I was single it hung in my living room. Mrs. Carrera's decorating taste does not lend to "art" like this. So it hangs in the corner of the garage, next to my timing light, dwell meter and three larger wrenches that really don't fit in the tool drawers.
I had a copy of that poster - bought it when I was about 18. Hung in my BR (at home) for several years and then moved around with me after college and job moves. It is now with my adult son....
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My old 997.2 did not have a dip stick either and it also required a software tool to reset the light.

That's why I sold it and kept the 76.
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At least it's nice and clean and new under there Glen.
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Nice garage, nice house, nice poster! Thanks for the reminder as to why my wife's 2015 Macan S goes to the dealership or indy when I have a 1,200 sq. ft shop with a 2 post. It sounds easier/faster to get the engine/trans out of the 914 than change the oil on her vehicle.

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Jerry, now that I know the steps involved I suspect I could do it all in 30 or 40 minutes. And that counts getting it on the lift. It is around 15 torx screws to remove, and two large clips that pop off with the door clip tool. Then drain the oil with a screwdriver. I spent 10 minutes looking for the oil filter, and now I know where it is. On some Macans it is on the bottom, on this one it is on top, under a cover that pops off and is held in place with four rubber mounts, kinds like a 911 steering wheel horn center pad. Then remove the cover with the 32 mm socket, and remove the filter and replace the o-ring.

Again, it took me longer to figure out the Autel USB2 tool than to reset it. It read the VIN automatically and I reset the oil warning for 12 months out.

Getting the bottom engine cover back on is not as difficult as I feared. Just slip the front under the three tabs and get one screw in the middle of the cover screwed on with my fingers. That keeps it in position to screw in the rest of the screws and the two clips.

Filling the oil is slow and there is a piece of plastic that covers 1/2 the oil fill hole, so I had to use a small funnel. It would be interesting to find out why there is a piece of plastic to restrict the size of the funnel. I can guess it is to keep from dumping in the oil too fast and causing it to not drain down to the pan fast enough.

Overall it was a fairly easy task, and I don't think I could change the oil and filer in my 85 911 much faster. It was easier than replacing the defrost heater in my old refrigerator a few weeks back.
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Guess I'll stop whining about unplugging the coil wire to make replacing a 944 oil filter easier.

Really liking the lift recessed into the floor.
I'm going to build a new hangar at the airport, and plan on putting in a garage door in the back with a lift.
Been deciding between two post and four post, but most of what I do is simple oil changes, brake jobs, and swapping snow tires on & off twice a year.

A smaller lift like this may be perfectly adequate.

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