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cabmandone 03-28-2022 08:48 AM

The Dewalt will eat that thing for lunch! Seriously, if you haven't watched the comparison videos I posted in my thread, they're worth the watch. The Dewalt is for real. I went into it a skeptic and after using for the first time came away a believer. The saw really impressed me. I plan to take it to my hunting property to clean up some downed trees in the near future. I'll let you know how it does when I get the chance to go up and use it.

T77911S 03-28-2022 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OK-944 (Post 11647734)
Echo here also...great power to weight ratio as well.

i have an echo and a craftsman.
i had a craftsman that lasted a loooong time even with abuse.
they also come with a case.

problem with new saws is both of mine came with some california BS on it.
the other problem is is does not matter what saw yo buy if you dont run it it WILL NOT run after a while.

speaking of that i need to get them out and run them

cabmandone 03-28-2022 09:25 AM

^^^
Come up to Ohio. I've got plenty of wood to cut at the hunting property. Dead Ash trees everywhere!

masraum 03-28-2022 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11649088)
The Dewalt will eat that thing for lunch! Seriously, if you haven't watched the comparison videos I posted in my thread, they're worth the watch. The Dewalt is for real. I went into it a skeptic and after using for the first time came away a believer. The saw really impressed me. I plan to take it to my hunting property to clean up some downed trees in the near future. I'll let you know how it does when I get the chance to go up and use it.

Right, I bought that saw for small stuff, 3-4". I wouldn't expect it to begin to touch a saw running on >3x the voltage.

GH85Carrera 03-28-2022 10:17 AM

My wife went out in the common green area of our neighborhood association, and brought back a limb that was 2.5 inches in diameter, and 6 feet long and I needed to cut it to fit in the trash can. She had cut off all the little stems and side branches with the electric sears I got her for her birthday, but she left the 6 foot tall branch sticking out of the trash can for me to deal with. It was going to require a saw of some sort to deal with. I have an electric chain saw, and it would make short work of it. But it is still a bit of work to get all set up. I grabbed a tree saw that was Glen powered. I had it cut in half in under 10 seconds. Sometimes for very small projects the manual saw is faster and easier than anything else. That tree saw hangs in the storage building above the chain saw.

No doubt, if I had multiple cuts to do, the electric saw would have been used.

We have a wood burning fireplace, but the wife does not like the mess or the work to keep up with a pile of wood. It has only been used once, when the power was out for a few hours. About the time the fire was going enough to make heat the power came back on.

flatbutt 03-28-2022 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by T77911S (Post 11649137)
i have an echo and a craftsman.
i had a craftsman that lasted a loooong time even with abuse.
they also come with a case.

problem with new saws is both of mine came with some california BS on it.
the other problem is is does not matter what saw yo buy if you dont run it it WILL NOT run after a while.

speaking of that i need to get them out and run them

Yup. I have found that if I run mine with less oil (55/60: 1) I get more power out of the saw.

KFC911 03-28-2022 11:48 AM

First thing ya do with anything is remove those damn "spark arrestor" screens... they rob power, and as the carbon builds up, it gets even worse. And if you remove the 15 warning stickers it makes the saws lighter too :D!

cabmandone 03-28-2022 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11649323)
First thing ya do with anything is remove those damn "spark arrestor" screens... they rob power, and as the carbon builds up, it gets even worse. And if you remove the 15 warning stickers it makes the saws lighter too :D!

But then how will you know that you're not supposed to put the sawblade on your leg while the engine is running and pull the throttle?

KFC911 03-28-2022 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11649324)
But then how will you know that you're not supposed to put the sawblade on your leg while the engine is running and pull the throttle?

My big azz scar reminds me :D

masraum 03-28-2022 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 11649226)
My wife went out in the common green area of our neighborhood association, and brought back a limb that was 2.5 inches in diameter, and 6 feet long and I needed to cut it to fit in the trash can. She had cut off all the little stems and side branches with the electric sears I got her for her birthday, but she left the 6 foot tall branch sticking out of the trash can for me to deal with. It was going to require a saw of some sort to deal with. I have an electric chain saw, and it would make short work of it. But it is still a bit of work to get all set up. I grabbed a tree saw that was Glen powered. I had it cut in half in under 10 seconds. Sometimes for very small projects the manual saw is faster and easier than anything else. That tree saw hangs in the storage building above the chain saw.

No doubt, if I had multiple cuts to do, the electric saw would have been used.

We have a wood burning fireplace, but the wife does not like the mess or the work to keep up with a pile of wood. It has only been used once, when the power was out for a few hours. About the time the fire was going enough to make heat the power came back on.

Yep, I have a Glenn, I mean Steve, powered saw for little onsey-twosey jobs too. Because of the size of our property, nothing is ever that small a job.

masraum 03-28-2022 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11649326)
My big azz scar reminds me :D

Not to mention the warning fluid.

flatbutt 03-28-2022 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11649367)
Not to mention the warning fluid.

How many operating hours between fluid changes? ;-)

masraum 03-28-2022 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11647675)
Bought the Dewalt battery powered saw. The thing kicks ass! My dad and I used it a few weeks ago cutting up a dead Ash that the wind blew over. For a gasser, I'd go Poulan if your just using it occasionally. My brother has one and it works well.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1106997-battery-powered-chainsaws-yikes.html

I like the simplicity of the battery powered stuff. I watched the review that you posted in the other thread, the dewalt definitely seemed to come out on top. The no load run time with the original battery was 37 mins, I think. You then bought a 2 pack of batteries, so in theory, your no load run time is almost 2 hours with 3 batteries. The batteries then took him well over 2 hours each to charge. That's not an ideal time of work to charge, and the batteries certainly aren't cheap. The simplicity is nice and probably the primary "pro", but the run time and initial investment to gain additional run time is probably the primary "con."

masraum 03-28-2022 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 11649402)
How many operating hours between fluid changes?

I think it depends on your warning fluid specification. If you're running something that you can pick up at your FNEC (friendly neighborhood emergency clinic) then it's probably not a big deal to change more frequently. But if you're running some sort of weird European proprietary fluid, then you may want to stretch your change intervals as long as possible.

cabmandone 03-28-2022 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11649411)
I like the simplicity of the battery powered stuff. I watched the review that you posted in the other thread, the dewalt definitely seemed to come out on top. The no load run time with the original battery was 37 mins, I think. You then bought a 2 pack of batteries, so in theory, your no load run time is almost 2 hours with 3 batteries. The batteries then took him well over 2 hours each to charge. That's not an ideal time of work to charge, and the batteries certainly aren't cheap. The simplicity is nice and probably the primary "pro", but the run time and initial investment to gain additional run time is probably the primary "con."

If it helps, I cut up about a 30 foot tree into 16" pieces in about a half hour but that was only because my dad and I were BS'ing. When I finished, the battery still showed 3 full bars.

cabmandone 03-28-2022 03:40 PM

Here's one I don't know if I posted on my thread. I know what you're saying about cost. It's definitely not a less expensive option. But two batteries will cut a lot of wood. Plus it gives you time for a nap while the batteries are charging!

https://youtu.be/S4ktxZlhb-Y

masraum 03-28-2022 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 11649503)
Here's one I don't know if I posted on my thread. I know what you're saying about cost. It's definitely not a less expensive option. But two batteries will cut a lot of wood. Plus it gives you time for a nap while the batteries are charging!

https://youtu.be/S4ktxZlhb-Y

Good stuff, thanks.

aigel 03-28-2022 08:45 PM

The electric stuff is probably fine for home owner use. My concern would be aging of the batteries both over decades electrochemically but also being outdated with better stuff soon! It seems there is always a better battery around the corner.

A good quality gas saw will last you the rest of your life and will sell for more than what you paid for it at your estate sale.

I was in a similar situation about 10 years back and bought a Stihl. I buy the premixed gas from Stihl or the hardware store and even in the CA heat in the garage, it never needed anything, even sitting for sometimes 2 years at a time. A couple cranks and it's on! The premix is sold in a gallon and yes, probably about $25 but with light use it will last you several years. If you ever need to run a lot of gas, by all means mix yourself with the ethanol stuff, just make sure the last couple fills are back on the premix that has no ethanol.

This is the model I bought. I wanted something big enough for firewood and when hunting. I often go late season and there may be deadfalls blocking you in. Its also happened that jokers drop a tree in the road for you to cause you trouble going home, if they don't like you showing up in "their spot" on public land. We have big trees here, so needed something that can deal with a few feet diameter, even if it will take a while.

Here is a nice review except for this guy being extremely unsafe with it. Surprised he still has all his digits and limbs.

Have fun!

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KFC911 03-29-2022 02:16 AM

^^^^ G ..... You are spot on. Though I have an older MS250, and prefer it over the newer versions... one will not regret purchasing a "real" saw meant to last a lifetime for most homeowners. Will the battery powered stuff last and perform for 20+ years.... who knows? For around $350 a 45cc Stihl with a 16" bar is just a great saw for most folks to purchase and keep forever. Battery powered stuff has it's place .... just not my place ;).

Rapewta 03-29-2022 07:47 AM

Occasional use for me on one acre is the EGO 56 volt 40 cc equivalent 16" electric chain saw.
It is so easy to operate and very powerful. I like it.


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