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masraum 06-25-2022 11:35 AM

What causes the level in the toilet bowl to radically change?
 
You flush the toilet and after the water leaves the bowl, the bowl then fills back up until the surface of the water is maybe the size of a dinner plate.

The next day you flush the toilet and the water only fills the bottom neck of the toilet so that the surface area of the water is a tiny fraction of what it was.

The tank on the back of the toilet seems to fill correctly.

One thing did occur, the pressure switch in our well pump died and I replaced it. But it was replaced with the same pressure (40/60) and everything in the house seem to be working the same, except the toilet.

THere's a second toilet in the house, and it's working fine, but it's got a pressure vessel in the tank while the one acting different uses a "kohler canister flush valve"

similar to this
http://mobileimages.lowes.com/produc...e/07759168.jpg

stevej37 06-25-2022 12:43 PM

These work great...and are super easy to install.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004A9BQMS?ref=nb_sb_ss_w_as-reorder-t1_ypp_rep_k0_1_24&amp&crid=176RHY6B92JBT&amp&spre fix=plumbcraft+toilet+fill+v

A turn knob controls the water height.

Shaun @ Tru6 06-25-2022 12:46 PM

have you checked to see if you have turtles in the tank? One flush they could be in the water, another sitting above the water on a log or something.

stevej37 06-25-2022 12:53 PM

^^^ Nah...they only sit above water if the sun is out....not the moon.

sc_rufctr 06-25-2022 01:01 PM

A really big "load" could drag the water along behind it when you flush so it doesn't come back to the normal height.
(Think about the water level in the S bend)

Does a further flush bring the water level up to normal?

masraum 06-25-2022 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11726917)
A really big "load" could drag the water along behind it when you flush so it doesn't come back to the normal height.
(Think about the water level in the S bend)

Does a further flush bring the water level up to normal?

Nope. I even tried pouring water in and it drained out which seems extra weird to me.

masraum 06-25-2022 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 11726907)
have you checked to see if you have turtles in the tank? One flush they could be in the water, another sitting above the water on a log or something.

Only the turtles with the laser beams on their heads.

And be careful when you're picking wild mushrooms for culinary purposes.

sc_rufctr 06-25-2022 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11726942)
Nope. I even tried pouring water in and it drained out which seems extra weird to me.

Is it possible you have a broken sewer pipe that's leaking into the ground? I really hope you don't.

A930Rocket 06-25-2022 02:49 PM

This is strange. The level of water in the toilet should always be the same based on the curvature of the bowl and tube going up and over. It’s like a P-trap under a sink. It always stays the same.

Perhaps there is a crack in the toilet somewhere?

Have you looked in the crawlspace?

hcoles 06-25-2022 03:27 PM

From time to time I'd find a low water level. Never figured out what causes it.

carambola 06-25-2022 03:30 PM

my (idiotic) first thought was that a vacuum has formed,

Rusty Heap 06-25-2022 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11726945)
Only the turtles with the laser beams on their heads.


Lasers?, Not on their heads, but they shoot from their eyes. SmileWavy





http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1656200234.jpg

Superman 06-25-2022 03:38 PM

Water. When the toilet fills up higher, it means there is more water in the bowl.

You're welcome. The turtle question is just silly.

masraum 06-25-2022 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hcoles (Post 11727032)
From time to time I'd find a low water level. Never figured out what causes it.

Yeah, apparently, all I had to do was post about it, because I just went into the bathroom and the level is back at the norm.

stevej37 06-25-2022 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superman (Post 11727037)
You're welcome. The turtle question is just silly.

Not silly...turtles know what a full moon looks like.

look 171 06-25-2022 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 11727005)
This is strange. The level of water in the toilet should always be the same based on the curvature of the bowl and tube going up and over. It’s like a P-trap under a sink. It always stays the same.

Perhaps there is a crack in the toilet somewhere?

Have you looked in the crawlspace?

This. It shouldn't be low. Something is up with the toilet. Check for leaks under there. Does it rock when you are sitting on it, Steve? You do pee sitting down, right?:D rotten support or movements may cause the wax ring to not seal properly. Is crawl space under the toilet accessible? Check for wet spots under there.

nota 06-25-2022 05:25 PM

got a dog ?

they lower the level by drinking

masraum 06-25-2022 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 11727077)
This. It shouldn't be low. Something is up with the toilet. Check for leaks under there. Does it rock when you are sitting on it, Steve? You do pee sitting down, right?:D rotten support or movements may cause the wax ring to not seal properly. Is crawl space under the toilet accessible? Check for wet spots under there.

I can get under and check. I don't want to but I can. I'll check tomorrow.

masraum 06-25-2022 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nota (Post 11727094)
got a dog ?

they lower the level by drinking

Not that can reach the toilet

Por_sha911 06-25-2022 07:34 PM

The wax ring may be leaking?


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