The irony here is off the chart

[Racerbvd]

[Por_sha911]

The Tesla and Motorcycles thread got me thinking...
Will CA ban buying a motorcycle with an ICE that gets 70-80mpg?

[techweenie]

Well, in my part of CA, the heat wave breaks by the weekend. Avoiding charging my Tesla between 4 and 9 was't the hardship some people seem to think.

Flex alerts involve home a/c and other applicances. Looks like we have done pretty well, as I haven't heard any reports of brownouts or rolling blackouts.

CA is at 33.6% renewable sources now, with natural gas being the big non-renewable source at 37.9%.

Sorry, don't have a 3rd party meme or image for any of that.

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by afterburn 549

OK, curve ball?
What will happen if the ratio of ownership jumps just to 30% in EV ?
What will happen when the states that water CA own a few more EV?

CA will be there soon. The #1 and #2 best selling cars in CA are both Teslas. Unsure what the water factor is here or why it would affect electricity generation.

Stress on the grid is greatest when temps top 100/105.

We are on plan to add 25.5 GW from renewable sources by next year, and 15 GW of storage to reinfoce peak demand by 2032. The initial goal is to phase out our carbon-generating electricity sources. which are down to 42% or so now.

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by A930Rocket

Miners push dead EV to plant to charge battery… 😳

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technology/west-virginia-coal-miners-help-tourists-push-dead-electric-car

Funny. of course it isn't actually an electric SUV. it's a setup meme. Followup picture shows a power cord running to the vehicle under the hood. Actual electric vehicles use charge ports and charge port adapters. This appears to be a Mazda.

[stomachmonkey]

Originally Posted by techweenie

.....Unsure what the water factor is here or why it would affect electricity generation.....

Because just under 20% of the grid is supplied by hydro and the lakes are at the lowest levels since forever meaning no spiny the hamster wheel to get power out of the other end.

[A930Rocket]

Originally Posted by techweenie

Funny. of course it isn't actually an electric SUV. it's a setup meme. Followup picture shows a power cord running to the vehicle under the hood. Actual electric vehicles use charge ports and charge port adapters. This appears to be a Mazda.

But, but, but I read it on the Interweb!

[gregpark]

In spite of the idiot politicians there's too much money in CA for it to fail. Besides, by 2035 improved battery technology will make it all feasible. That's why they delayed the Artemis 1 launch you know. In a few months they figure they'll have batteries that can send that sucker to the moon and save all that hydrogen

[hcoles]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

But we several hundreds of years of petroleum in reserve just in the USA.

Here is one piece of info.
United States consumed an average of about 19.78 million barrels of petroleum per day in 2021,
The SPR currently holds about 700 million barrels.
What reserve are you talking about?

[CurtEgerer]

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by gregpark

In spite of the idiot politicians there's too much money in CA for it to fail.

Your statement reminds me of the banks and investment corporation that were going to fail when the house bubble hit. They were "too big to fail" so the American taxpayers had to foot the bill. I'm not a big fan of bailing out one of the states because of bad planning and fiscal irresponsibility.

[Sooner or later]

Originally Posted by hcoles

Here is one piece of info.
United States consumed an average of about 19.78 million barrels of petroleum per day in 2021,
The SPR currently holds about 700 million barrels.
What reserve are you talking about?

Reserves not yet extracted.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by Sooner or later

Reserves not yet extracted.

Exactly! Remember that by 2035 we will have found new ways to extract oil from places not yet found and the refining process also have advanced to be even more environmentally friendly at a fraction of what it cost for refining today. Look at how far technology has advanced on ICE engines in their fuel efficiency. By 2035 cars will be getting at least 60 mpg.

Note: in case you missed the sarcasm. This is the type of pipe dream predictions that Kalifornia is relying on to justify its mandate for EVs.

[CurtEgerer]

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by stomachmonkey

Because just under 20% of the grid is supplied by hydro and the lakes are at the lowest levels since forever meaning no spiny the hamster wheel to get power out of the other end.

Actually 9.2% of California's power came from hydroelectric as of 2021 -- years into the drought. 2/3 of that was from in state sources. I think we'll be fine with further reductions as new generation more than offsets the potential loss.

[techweenie]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Your statement reminds me of the banks and investment corporation that were going to fail when the house bubble hit. They were "too big to fail" so the American taxpayers had to foot the bill. I'm not a big fan of bailing out one of the states because of bad planning and fiscal irresponsibility.

That's funny, you're in TN? The biggest source of revenue for TN is Federal funds.

[Evans, Marv]

For once I have to think positively toward our county's beaurocracy. Because of the ongoing efforts to bolster water and electrical resources (we probably have the highest electricity rates in the nation) over the past decades, we are projected to fare well (or better than adjacent areas) with weathering the drought situation. That doesn't mean we can freely waste water, but with some decent conservation efforts, we should be OK - not that this area is rich in water.

[island911]

Originally Posted by techweenie

That's funny, you're in TN? The biggest source of revenue for TN is Federal funds.

Yeah? And what is the biggest source of revenue to the Federal funds?

Are you saying TN pays less to Federal than Federal pays to them?

[Racerbvd]

[Por_sha911]

"Californians narrowly averted rolling blackouts on Tuesday, but the threat looms all week amid an unpleasant but not unusual heat wave," the editors wrote in an opinion titled "Gavin Newsom's Dirty Energy Secret."

"This ought to be a warning about how the government force-fed green energy transition is endangering grid reliability, but Democrats and the media can’t break out of their climate-change conformity to think clearly, or think at all," they continued.

https://www.foxnews.com/media/wsj-editorial-board-californias-blackouts-result-man-made-climate-policies-not-climate-change