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Yep...the ad slogan that never was for Mitsubishi...."From the folks that brought you Pearl Harbor"
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Thats slogan was for real BTW
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I'm surprised nobody mentioned those glorious-sounding Ferrari V12 and V8s!
The 911 air-cooled motor is a marvel... i can't believe it just kept evolving over almost 40 years
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well, I meant "$17K" for a tune up.
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$17000...for a tuneup....PPPPwhew....What did they do for that kind of money....I knew an engine rehbuild on the old V-12's was about 20K...but a tuneup... Gees
Henry Ford was one of the worlds richest men...and as such he liked to collect stuff...his collection is called the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan...Now Henry just didn't care much for art, or guns, or even cars for that matter...allthough there are alot of them...He like to collect Farm Machinery, and Steam engines...not the Rail Road kind either but a Steam Engines that would pump out mines back in the early 1700's...that stand two stories tall...that kind of stuff....theres even a steam turbine that was used to power the River Rouge Plant...it's just about 200 feet long and 30 feet high...it's in the museum...
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How about the Toyota 1.6L 4AGE series of engine?
They have reliably powered Toyotas (likely in the millions) since the early 80's. Toyota may even still produce that engine for cars in other markets aside from North America, not to mention power Formula Atlantic racecars that develop well over 200 HP without a turbo. My car is 18 yrs old, still runs like a champ and has a 7500 redline if only 115 hp. Another great engine from Toyota is the 22R engines commonly found in their trucks. They are nearly bulletproof with my tattered and rusty trucks running about with 50000 kms on them. ![]()
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Hey good one Reg.
Both the 4AG and the 22R are awesome engines. My 84 Toyota pickup has well over 500K on the original motor. |
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oppps I meant 500000 kms on them. WoW 500000 miles, well thats even further!
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Hmm - are we talking technical innovation, durability, or performance here? All three?
I like the RR inline 6, the BMW inline 4, 944 3.0L I-4, and the Chevy 350 V8. The I-6 used in the post-war Rolls-Royces (1945-1962) are perfection for the cars - smooth, quiet, durable, efficient, and good performance. To me, the post-war years (before the Silver Shadow) are the pinnacle of the marque and thus the pinnacle of car-making in general (hey, it was the "best car in the world" after all.) I think those cars could be driven for a lifetime, and you'd never want another. The BMW 4-cylinder M10s represent, to me, the pinnacle of small engines. I include the 944 3-liter not because I'm overly fond of it, but because of the genius it represents in out-doing BMW's I-4. Impressive. The 350 for it's sheer versatility - tuned properly you get a monster performer, left alone you get a solid, all-around engine good for most anything that will run forever if cared for properly, and it is so ubiquitous you could likely rebuild one from parts found at the average Shell station. The automotive equivalent of AA batteries. Of the criteria I named above, I'd give it the prize for meeting them all. Emanuel
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Nice one reg. I love the 4agze, 40 PSI on stock internals is crazy! Not to mention Toyota's 2jz series, brilliance I tell ya. I don't know much about the 22R, but I have heard it's a great engine to supercharge.
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U guyz keep on forgetting the Ford 263/289/302/351W....It's powered Cobras, Shelby Mustangs, Boss 302's, GT40's.Mustang Mach 1's. Lightning 150's, Saleen Mustangs, and everything in between..from the 50's to the 90's...and can be rebuilt from those left over gas station parts as well.
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I agree that the Ford engine is good (their trannys are the trouble) but I put the 350 ahead of it because of the versatility of its application. The Ford Windsor family has been used solely with sports and muscle cars, hasn't it?
Emanuel
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I'm partial to huge industrial , stationary diesel engines. When they get down to work, and the turbos start to howl, you know there is a lot of ***** happening at the driveshaft. Deutz and Man diesels are my favorites.
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I'm gonna transplant one of THOSE into my targa when my 3.0 finally bites the dust!
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I like a good ocean liner engine. Like the one on the Star Princess cruising down from Seward, Ak.
Nice and quiet. AND it's a diesel...
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So Doug, what sort of torque one of those babys put out?
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