has anyone tried the Center Axis Relock stance?

[Por_sha911]

A la John Wick.


Apparently it is a legit method and has some decent advantages.
https://www.ammunitiontogo.com/lodge/center-axis-relock/

[Bill Douglas]

Needs sights on the pistol like this.

[KFC911]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Needs sights on the pistol like this.

Those sights are on the wrong side!

[Por_sha911]

The above is funny but the Center Axis Relock is VERY legit. Watch the video

[stomachmonkey]

Keanu can actually shoot.

[Por_sha911]

So no one has tried this system?

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

So no one has tried this system?

I have too many years using cup and saucer. Old dog / old habits.

[Captain Ahab Jr]

Owners of the gun club I occasionally go to said to watch John Wick to see how a person should be shooting in an urban environment

I don't do enough gun training to know if this is correct or not

[stevej37]

This one works best.

[Solamar]

The club I'm a member of does a monthly combat shoot, similar to what Keanu was doing above. Alternating with a slinged rifle and a holstered pistol shooting steel silhouettes.

I thought I was quite capable, before my first combat shoot. Whole lot of muscle memory I don't have.

Most embarrassing part, shoulder my AR, release the bolt, click, rack the bolt, click, look at it puzzled as the Marine safety that was spotting me says "Sir, your magazine is on the deck". Doh...

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Solamar

The club I'm a member of does a monthly combat shoot, similar to what Keanu was doing above. Alternating with a slinged rifle and a holstered pistol shooting steel silhouettes.

I thought I was quite capable, before my first combat shoot. Whole lot of muscle memory I don't have.

Most embarrassing part, shoulder my AR, release the bolt, click, rack the bolt, click, look at it puzzled as the Marine safety that was spotting me says "Sir, your magazine is on the deck". Doh...

LOL! I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you.

You're at least one up on me since I haven't done any of these sorts of things.

[Por_sha911]

From the video I posted and a few things I've read, I can see where the CAR is great for urban SD or from a vehicle. Problem I would have to totally retrain from scratch and I am not sure I'd want to do that. Also, it seems to be the most valuable for close range shooting. Past 3 (maybe 5) yards it would get sketchy with a normal handgun so it would be perfect for a bodyguard (which I am not). I guess you could always transition to the traditional stance but that is just more training.

[Bill Douglas]

This scrag gonna get a massive slide bite to her old tit if she fires it like this.

Also always keep the gun in from of you or you are likely to shoot yourself fumbling with the trigger.

[CurtEgerer]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

So no one has tried this system?

Well, I'm going to give it a try next time at the range. Thanks.

[Flat Six]

Just got back from the range and tried this; a few observations:

1) I found the stance pretty natural and intuitive, though I adjusted my torso position to a little less than fully bladed -- limited range of motion in my neck made the fully-bladed position uncomfortable and limited my left peripheral vision more than I cared for.

2) Moving from draw to High CAR to Extended CAR to my 'normal' modified Weaver stance felt very natural. Less natural, though, was the grip transition from modified Weaver back to Extended CAR. I'd guess the Weaver-Extended-High transitions would be more critical to address an advancing target. I was a little sloppy and need more reps to groove muscle memory.

3) Extended CAR dictates you use your offhand eye on the front sight (left eye for right-handed shooters); I didn't bother (I'm right-handed and right eye dominant) and got decent results. But when I worked into using my left eye, I shot much better. I guess that brings the barrel closer to the body's central axis.

4) Where CAR really worked well for me was with weak-hand shooting. I suck at shooting left-handed. But I found the transition from strong-hand to weak-hand grip pretty easy. I shot better (speed, accuracy, and sight re-acquisition) with High and Extended CAR than I ever had with any other grip/stance.

5) For right-handed shooters, High CAR rotates ejection port from right to practically straight upward. Depending on your weapon, you could have hot brass ejecting in front of your eyes. I shot CAR with several pistols; I always wear eye pro at the range but a couple of times I was really glad I did.

I hope some of this is helpful to anyone who's considering CAR. I'm glad I tried it, but I'm not sure if it's right for me. I'll probably try it another couple of times though.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

This scrag gonna get a massive slide bite to her old tit if she fires it like this.
Also always keep the gun in from of you or you are likely to shoot yourself fumbling with the trigger.

Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing. You should try it some time.
The is a ready position before moving to the CAR or traditional firing position. It is not where you fire from.
Also, your your junior high school style derogatory name for a trained professional does not encourage a thinking person to take seriously anything you say after that.

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by Flat Six

For right-handed shooters, High CAR rotates ejection port from right to practically straight upward. Depending on your weapon, you could have hot brass ejecting in front of your eyes. I shot CAR with several pistols; I always wear eye pro at the range but a couple of times I was really glad I did.

That was one of the things I read about as a negative and wondered if that could be an issue. I guessed that if you are in close range mortal combat, things like ear and eye protection take a back seat to survival.

The CAR stance is perfect for self defense when the attacker is in close. You are less susceptible of having your weapon pushed away or taken away from you and at such a short distance you won't need 25 yard accuracy. It isn't for target shooting. I would say that most shooters are recreational target practice fans rather than seriously training for actual self defense. Everything changes when the target is moving erratically and is shooting back at you!

[Bill Douglas]

Originally Posted by Por_sha911

Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing. You should try it some time.
The is a ready position before moving to the CAR or traditional firing position. It is not where you fire from.
Also, your your junior high school style derogatory name for a trained professional does not encourage a thinking person to take seriously anything you say after that.

Relax, relax. The world is a beautiful place.

My point was WTF has she got the gun against her with her finger anywhere near the trigger. Yes I understand she's a trained pro, but even trained pro's have a large number of accidents.

Says guy who has had guns for over 55 years and never shot myself.

[masraum]

Originally Posted by Bill Douglas

Relax, relax. The world is a beautiful place.

My point was WTF has she got the gun against her with her finger anywhere near the trigger. Yes I understand she's a trained pro, but even trained pro's have a large number of accidents.

Says guy who has had guns for over 55 years and never shot myself.

Her finger is in the "safe" position, not on the trigger or even in the trigger guard. There's not really anyplace else that you can put it if you're holding a handspoon.

[Bill Douglas]

All the training I've had has said if the gun is out of the holster - even with the trigger finger outside of the guard, the end of the barrel should be well past any point of the body.