I am with you. Teslas are cool. I can't afford one and it is not applicable to my use...yet.

I just don't want to be forced to use one or subsidize others to use them.

I've a friend thats seriously considering selling her prius to buy a new electric car. She says she's doing it for the environment.

But add it up... take the $60k or whatever that she'd spend on that 2000lbs of toxin and put it towards advocating for higher gas taxes.

I think its only the pocketbook that will change behavior and get us to the finish line, isn't possible to get there via individuals paying big bux to do extreme stuff in the name of the commons.

Like recycling plastic bags - now they're banned - boom.

Dollars to doughnuts donating to politicians will have a larger impact on the environment than her switching from using her current 4 gallons of gas per week. Just makes no sense at all on any level, except in her little brain she'd maybe feel nifty about it every time she drove it.

If we were really motivated in placing the least amount of stress on the environment, we wouldn't buy a new vehicle. Yes, sometimes you have to buy a new one, but not every 3 or five years.
We tend to keep ours a minimum of 10 years. If the salt didn't eat them around here, twenty years would suit me just fine.

There is a lot of talk about mining rare metals for EV batteries. Everything for a new car has to be manufactured at some cost. Even running the factories to make new stuff uses energy.

Save the planet! Drive an old car.

Best
Les

We both like them, check.
We both want one, check.
We both cannot currently afford one, check.
We both don't think they are the perfect vehicle for everyone and every situation, check.
We both think that goobernment will force us to drive electric vehicles like good and proper comrades...no check.

I still believe that the PEOPLE are more powerful than the GOOBERNMENT, and will never let them do something as draconian as require everyone to drive state sponsored electric vehicle pods, at 40mph speed limits, and use state required solar panels to charge them at home, in our state loaned housing units.

Sure, they *pretend* to do that, but all of these legislations are "enacted by 2035" or "enacted in 15 years". They're just kicking the can down the road, knowing that in 15 or 20 years either (a) technology will make a kick butt solution that allows the laws to go into effect, or (b) any number of elected officials before then will cancel the law.

It's because, like most conservative-oriented opinions, they were completely full of ****.

You can't use logic against contrarians.

I'm not posting in this sub forum again, enjoy your echo chamber, boomers. SmileWavy

Not a good look for an outboard engineer....

You gonna debate or just name call?

You need to point that arrow right back at yourself....


And since you haven't contributed a picogram of substance to this forum.... you won't be missed....
Buh bye bse 😘

He has no time to explain to us how much better the outboard will be when the boat is powered by a sail, that moves the boat turning a waterwheel, that spins a generator supplying juice to the motor that spins the prop moving the boat, which now creates its own wind to turn the windmill that turns another generator.....

Carl Kiekhaefer should have thought of this long ago.

He's such a leftist. Comes here to ***** n moan....
Blames the right for his losses in tesla that is artificial to begin with...

Yes. No disagreement. It is always easy to write checks that have to be paid by others or come due after you leave office and others are responsible. You can take credit now and if it works out later, you are a visionary. If it fails, it is someone else’s fault.

Yes...but 'EVs Only Displaced 2 Days Worth of Gas Consumption Over the Last Decade??'

Did anyone read the link/article?