50 cal muzzleloader

[Shaun @ Tru6]

I just have these pics, anything special about this gun and what would the typical price range for it be?

[Nick Triesch]

Nice gun! What is the name brand? Wood on stock is very beautiful. I have a 54 cal Lyman and they sell new for about $800. Learn how to shoot it!! Much fun.

[Nick Triesch]

It’s a cap and ball. Can buy what you need to shoot at cabelas. I would say Worth between $3-4 hundred. Probably more. Looks in great shape. Almost new looking.

[Jeff Higgins]

Thompson/Center Renegade. They were made in .50 and .54 caliber from the mid 1970's to about ten years ago. One of the only American made rifles in the semi-replica realm. It doesn't really represent any particular historical rifle. These are very, very well made, very accurate, and will accept a good stiff hunting load. Accurate with either the traditional patched round ball or an elongated bullet. T/C introduced their "Maxi Ball" with this rifle, and the very similar, but brass mounted "Hawken" (which is anything but).

Not sure what these are worth these days. Probably not much. Check Gun Broker for completed sales. I bet you would be lucky to get $500 for it.

Here is my "Hawken", essentially the same rifle, just fancier. One of the best hunting rifles I own.

[Jeff Higgins]

Originally Posted by Nick Triesch

Nice gun! What is the name brand? Wood on stock is very beautiful. I have a 54 cal Lyman and they sell new for about $800. Learn how to shoot it!! Much fun.

Like this? This is my Lymann "Great Plains Rifle", a somewhat more faithful "Hawken". Not nearly as well made as the T/C, won't take anywhere near the powder charge, and is a "round ball only" shooter. Won't shoot the Maxi Balls. Very, very accurate, though.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Cool, thank you. It's part of a listing I'm hoping to get a car from too.

[Nick Triesch]

Jeff! I also have the Great Plains!! Bought mine new 40 years ago .

[Nick Triesch]

Not fancy, not shiny, I think the rifle of the time probably looked like. 54 cal

[flatbutt]

This is only the first hit on search so IDK the skill of this guy but man that sure looks like a lot of work. I can't imagine going into battle with that.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Cool video, thanks for posting. I would get this purely for wall art. My best friend who I would go shooting with locally passed away this summer. Other friend is in NC and there we just use handguns. He's got a .45 that I love to shoot.

EDIT: and the Fiat out in MN that I was bidding on just passed my max and ending tomorrow, it will probably quadruple my max.

Originally Posted by flatbutt

This is only the first hit on search so IDK the skill of this guy but man that sure looks like a lot of work. I can't imagine going into battle with that.

[Skytrooper]

I have had a "Fox River .54" for over 30 years, now. I love it and the challenge it provides (You got one shot kid...make it count). It is extremely accurate, and it is up to me to make it that way with my choice of projectile and powder load. I have taken many deer with it and will continue to do so. It is just a really nice gun !

[Jeff Higgins]

I found that video a bit painful to watch. Hickok 45 has a much better delivery.

[flatbutt]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I found that video a bit painful to watch. Hickok 45 has a much better delivery.

MMan, I could not do that w/out benchrest.

[Shaun @ Tru6]

The gun sold for $165, I definitely would have bid on it but the excellent condition barnfind 69 Fiat spider sold for an incredible $6750. And while I would love to go to MN to see a dear friend, wouldn't make sense just to collect the gun.

Great video Jeff, these are the kinds of guns for me. This and my friend's HK45 down in NC. What a fun gun to shoot that is.

[Jeff Higgins]

Wow, somebody pretty much stole that rifle.

Yes, these are very enjoyable guns to shoot. I find the pace of it all pretty relaxing. I first got into muzzle loaders as no more than a way to extend my hunting seasons, way back in the late 1970's, and have grown to really like the whole thing in its own right. I now spend more time at the range with muzzle loaders than any other type of firearm.

Here are my three "Hawkens", which actually serve to show a bit of a progression through this sport. Top is my first one, a Thompson Center, that I built in the late 1970's purely to hunt deer and elk. It shoots a heavy charge with a "Maxi Ball", an elongated bullet of some 460 grains. At the time, the "wimpy little round ball" (as I viewed it back then) couldn't possibly be adequate for western big game. Or so I thought.

The bottom one is my Lymann, rifled to shoot round ball only, and a much more accurate reproduction than the T/C. It shoots the round ball very accurately, is quite light (maybe nine pounds), and has proven to be a wonderful hunting rifle. But, well, not quite a 100% faithful reproduction.

In the center is my Hawken, whose build i documented here last spring. I would call it the most correct "reproduction" of the three but, well, it isn't. A "reproduction", that is. It's a continuation, a real Hawken from the real Hawken shop. Another round ball only shooter.

All three are delightful rifles to play with. As Hickok45 says, they really do transport us back in time. I would recommend any of them to any shooter even mildly interested in this. They are kind of addicting...

[Shaun @ Tru6]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

Wow, somebody pretty much stole that rifle.

Yes, these are very enjoyable guns to shoot. I find the pace of it all pretty relaxing. I first got into muzzle loaders as no more than a way to extend my hunting seasons, way back in the late 1970's, and have grown to really like the whole thing in its own right. I now spend more time at the range with muzzle loaders than any other type of firearm.

Here are my three "Hawkens", which actually serve to show a bit of a progression through this sport. Top is my first one, a Thompson Center, that I built in the late 1970's purely to hunt deer and elk. It shoots a heavy charge with a "Maxi Ball", an elongated bullet of some 460 grains. At the time, the "wimpy little round ball" (as I viewed it back then) couldn't possibly be adequate for western big game. Or so I thought.

The bottom one is my Lymann, rifled to shoot round ball only, and a much more accurate reproduction than the T/C. It shoots the round ball very accurately, is quite light (maybe nine pounds), and has proven to be a wonderful hunting rifle. But, well, not quite a 100% faithful reproduction.

In the center is my Hawken, whose build i documented here last spring. I would call it the most correct "reproduction" of the three but, well, it isn't. A "reproduction", that is. It's a continuation, a real Hawken from the real Hawken shop. Another round ball only shooter.

All three are delightful rifles to play with. As Hickok45 says, they really do transport us back in time. I would recommend any of them to any shooter even mildly interested in this. They are kind of addicting...

Beautiful guns Jeff! Top one is my favorite. My sense is I'll look into these in 5 years or so when life slows down a little. Judging from the videos, what you say is one reason I would enjoy them, the pace. Must feel like you are doing a whole lot more than just pulling a trigger over and over.

[Superman]

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6

..... in 5 years or so when life slows down a little.....

Yeah, good luck with that.

[monoflo]

My Hawk and the required Marx vintage saddle gun

Fun

[Por_sha911]

Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins

I found that video a bit painful to watch. Hickok 45 has a much better delivery.

I would say annoying. Hickok was ten times better