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By next summer (and next winter) the bottom of the house and the plumbing there, will be insulated. |
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Me too. One corner of my garage, where the water heater is, gets colder than the rest. I had the same heat lamp on when the freeze of 2021 hit, but this time I didn't seal (vents) out the draft. 15 feet away, a jug of water didn't freeze.
Cold water was fine. |
Mike, I’m not worried about any pipes on the inside of the house, but my house has a crawl space with all the plumbing underneath the house.. worst case for this type of event! My house is warm and im hoping as long as people are being active inside, ( using water, etc) that I’ll be ok. Running a faucet only helps that one section, not going to help the far away corners.
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Its 8 outside and my crawl is 46. Have remote temp sensors there and in my greenhouse.
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We are sitting a balmy 17 this morning in Baton Rouge. My house was built in 1837 and is off the ground. Pex, Insulation, dripping the pipes and making sure to flush the toilets every hour. Then hope for the best. We will be below freeing for about 70 hours. For you north of the Mason Dixon you say that's nothing. We aren't built for this depth of cold. Made sure the pool salinity was a bit high and running that pool pump for a solid 4 days. The damned water and power bill will be a ***** next month.
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We were warmer this morning than yesterday (23º vs 15º), and today the high is probably going to be ~10º higher than yesterday. Since we survived Thu night, Fri, and last night and still have water, I think we're good to go for the next couple of days. We'll hit 40º today, 47º tomorrow, 57º Mon and should be back in the 70s by Wed. |
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But so far this year we are still having issues. Plenty of neighbors with frozen pipes. Gas supply is an issue. Low pressure which seems to be affecting tankless water heaters in large numbers. Pilot lights won't stay lit. So far i've lost my backflow preventer. Lost it two years ago as well. At least this time it'll be an easy fix as I'm not dealing with 13 year old connections so should come apart without having to get medieval. |
heat tape on the pipes in the attic
leave a faucet dripping in a couple of bathrooms open the door to the attic you'll be fine |
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I heard that there were natural gas problems from someone yesterday. That sucks! I'm sorry you are still having issues. Thank goodness the fix won't be too bad. A buddy of mine works with an ex-coworker (they both left where we all used to work together and ended up at the same place). The ex-coworker (we were never buddies) does not heed warnings and advice. My buddy sent a pic yesterday that showed an outdoor spigot that had been turned into a fountain at the ex-coworkers house. It had a piece of the black pipe insulation on it. I don't think anyone around here relied on only a bit of pipe insulation to protect from freezing. I'm not sure how he fared 2 years ago. I would have thought he must have done more (or had problems). Fortunately, our pipes have been OK through this. We had 1 break 2 years ago, and I made a few changes to prevent that from happening again (hot-wire and insulation in the pump house). I renewed all of the outside hose bibs insulation and wrapping/protection. If we had lost power/heat we may have had issues anyway. This year, I'll be doing more work on the house as a whole to protect even more in the future. |
I was on the phone with my sister this morning wishing her a Merry Christmas and she noticed that she wasn't getting any water through her hot water side of any of the faucets in her house but she was getting cold water. She lives in the Florida panhandle and had been having freezing temperatures over the past few days like I have had here in Alabama. So anyway, she is on a slab and her pipes go up into the attic. She told me that she didn't use any hot water at all yesterday and so I came to the conclusion that the water in the lines between the water heater and the faucets had cooled and had frozen since no water was being moved through the pipes at all over a day and a night of freezing temperatures. The reason the cold didn't freeze was because she had used the cold side by flushing a toilet or rinsing things in the sink and that the cold water had been moving throughout the day. She opened up all of the hot water sides in every faucet and in about an hour she finally had hot water flowing again. She is going to have someone insulate the pipes in the attic and also get an insulated blanket thing for her water heater as it is located in her garage. I suggested to her that she needed to use her hot water more often and to let it drip a little overnight since the temperature will be below freezing again tonight.
Oh and this is new construction by the way, her house is less than a year old. I think the builder should insulate the pipes in her attic at no charge. Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk |
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Continuous circulation of the hot water side. It's awesome to be able to turn on the shower and just step right in. I'll never have a home without it ever again. During Icemageddon we noticed a pattern. The homes in my subdivision that had it had no frozen pipe issues, it was only the homes without it. Our conclusion was since hot / cold side plumping for the most part runs in parallel the ambient from the hot side inside the walls kept things warm enough to protect the cold water pipes. Can be retrofit to existing systems pretty cheaply. |
The one I installed in my vacation home is specifically to keep the pipes from freezing. It pumps the warm water into the cold line through a check valve (under the sink at the farthest point from the water heater) and it back flows back to the water heater so there is no water wasted and the water in the cold line is not only moving (whenever the pump comes on for the hot water), but it heated to about room temp. I have it set up so I can turn the hot water heater and the recirculation pump on from my phone when enroute or when the temp drops below about 25F.
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It doesn’t.
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It's not just ambient conditions. Hot water is different than cold water. https://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html#:~:text=detailed%20explanations%20R eferences-,Yes%20—%20a%20general%20explanation,it%20is%20in% 20fact%20real. |
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This is the system I installed:
https://readytemp.com/prevent-frozen-water-pipes/prevent-frozen-pipes.htm |
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