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Did the article you linked to mention anything about
the actual COST of the energy?
No it did not.

In the definition of "efficient" they click-bated you on,
they meant how much of the energy produced
went to heating the water,
vs how much is lost to the surrounding air or other.
it is a marketing trick aimed at the gullible.

in that particular case, induction only heats
the pot and not the air.
BUT IT COSTS THREE TIMES MORE THAN GAS TO DO THAT!
Electricity is more expensive than gas.
A lot of electricity is more expensive than a little bit of gas.


HINT: if the website addy ends in .gov,
you can safely assume it's BS.

Remember not that many years ago when gasoline was so cheap
it made electric cars seem silly?
They fixed that little problem; they'll fix this natural gas thing too.

It can go either way depending on costs of both fuels in specific markets. Here is a chart that is based on average usage annually. It was linked in an article so I don't know if you'll need to wear a tin foil hat while reading it or not. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1tpdiQLP12WxbglhzmUTBrRFKWzMpKgZ_p80J4AwEFYM/edit?usp=sharing

Hmmm... interesting and makes me wonder. When we purchased our home in Alabama it had a lovely propane ventless fireplace (no chimney whatsoever). The 'advantage' the ventless fireplaces offered over the vented type was that these are more efficient because you lose no heat through the stack plus the burning of fuel is also more efficient in the ventless systems.

We liked that fireplace so much that when we added an addition to that home, we added a second ventless propane fireplace in my office. Other than the extra condensation forming on the windows (a byproduct of the combustion of propane) we never had any issues - I think I remember reading that with each gallon of propane burned that 1.6 pounds of H2O is released. These unvented fireplaces would run for hours straight.

We then bought 36 acres of vacant land and built our new home. We also had a ventless propane fireplace installed (we specifically requested a ventless model). Never once did we have any issues - these models have a CO sensors that are designed to immediately shut down the units should the carbon monoxide rise above a certain level. For safety measures, we also had separate CO monitors in our home. With that said, I do realize that inside combustion is dangerous and bad things can happen and systems can fail.

After relocating to Michigan, we wanted to add two fireplaces to our new home and when we started looking we were quickly informed that the fireplace installers here will NOT install a ventless fireplace. Additional research revealed that several states have banned the sale and installation of ventless fireplaces.

I looked online this morning and see that ventless fireplaces are still being produced and can easily be purchased. If the usage of gas cooktops are being questioned, I imagine that the availability of ventfree fireplaces are also on their way out???

Back when I was growing up in the 70’s, the popular way to get extra heat in basements were with kerosene heaters that were un-vented. Dang did I used to get headaches from those things. Got to think they are banned now, but not sure?

Electric heating devices are extremely efficient, because even wasted energy becomes heat. But as many have pointed out gas is just so much cheaper for the heat output.

I did an electric stove/oven when I remodeled, mostly because I wanted even heat in the oven, but I also didn’t want to breathe the combustion products.

^^^ I remember having one of those....yes, they were really noticeable when lit.

I still have an unvented LP gas fireplace with fake logs. I never use it, but keep it because it's a fall-back in case of a power outage in the winter.
It will put out enough heat to keep the house at 70 degrees during an outage.
I don't like using it for any other time because it causes so much condensation. The windows are all wet inside after a few hours of running it.

Is there such a thing as a ventless gas water heater, gas furnace, or boiler? I'm not aware of any so it's mind boggling that relatively high output unvented fireplaces are still allowed.

So I wonder, how do they explain childhood asthma for children that grew up in a house that did not have a gas stove?
For example, my son had asthma as a child and we have always had electric stoves/ovens, 'splain that!

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So you think gas stoves are the only cause? Proceed with caution, these guys have a .org address!!!
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/childhood-asthma/symptoms-causes/syc-20351507

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There is no doubt people are affected by indoor and outdoor pollution . And a subset of society is really affected by pollution . What the numbers are I have no idea .

There is a large qty of homes in the US that use natural gas or LP as a way to heat the home or water or food . Take all that away you have a large hit to the electric grid . A grid that we have so many examples of being overwhelmed at times already . And what happens when we add 50 million ( WAG ) electric vehicles ?

I am all for health and safety but some common sense needs to be exercised . Example: when I was growing up all range hoods were vented outside . Makes perfect sense. Then the transition to unvented vent hoods ???? started . Probably because they are easier to install . How about returning to exterior vented hoods ?

The only thing worse than watching the Golden Globes, is using an electric stove!

Some older homes are not very easy to install an exterior vented hood.
Especially if the kitchen is set up that the only place for a range is on an inside wall of the kitchen.

it's a valid enough concern. regardless of any linkage to asthma.
building codes (here) are changing quickly. gas fired appliances are discouraged. electric conversions are subsidized.
given current trends? gas stoves will not be allowed in new residential builds, in the not too distant future. here, anyways.

For years I insisted on gas stoves they were ,to me the only choice
A few years ago my life changed in a major way and I ended up moving in with a fantastic
woman who has a convection cook top. You know what? It's better then gas in every metric
politics and pollution aside I'll never choose a gas stove again just IMHO

^^^^ convective cook top over gas cook top? You cook much? :) Nothing controls heat better or more quickly than a gas burner. That said, we all are entilted to our opinions and preferences. I am partial to high end dual fuel stoves as I spend most of my "home" time in my kitchen.

Yes, for the oven, electric is far better than gas as it produces a drier more controlable heat.

NEVER giving up a "dual fuel" stove.

Cheers

Well now I'm curious about this.

I've never heard of a convection cooktop.

Convection oven, sure, as the volume is contained. - a fan.

Does this convection cooktop sport some hair-dryer / heat-gun type burners?

Maybe slap up a sheet of stainless behind the burners? That makes me nervous.

This was last night in prep for some sauteed duck breasts tonight. The brown band is 1 hour reduction on lowest simmer for a micro 4 servings of demi glace based sauce. I had just turned the heat up since it was going so slowly. I don't think you can do this on anything but gas.

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