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Danimal16 01-11-2023 04:44 PM
31 years in utilities systems, primarily wet. Number one issue is diversification of sources for reliability and backbone system maintainability. If you go all electric it is a one trick pony and system reliability is further tested. Total reliance on one form of energy vs. a variety of sources is a fools game. I prefer gas plus electric plus gasoline.

Racerbvd 01-11-2023 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Danimal16 (Post 11894379)
31 years in utilities systems, primarily wet. Number one issue is diversification of sources for reliability and backbone system maintainability. If you go all electric it is a one trick pony and system reliability is further tested. Total reliance on one form of energy vs. a variety of sources is a fools game. I prefer gas plus electric plus gasoline.
I have a gas hot water heater, when we lose power during a hurricane, I can still take hot showers, and in states like Cali, that sometimes lose power, those with gas stoves are still cooking.

upsscott 01-11-2023 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 11893899)
I like to see women without tattoos and guys with short hair...but I would not impose my likes on others.

Me too...I like battery powered lawn tools for the smaller "sissy" type jobs...but need real gas-powered ones for real work. A really good battery only lasts an hour and costs about $350...and is still less powerful. For a hard, 12hr day of work, one would need a few thousand dollars worth of batteries...unless a charger was readily available. Even then, at least a $1000+ in batteries.

IMHO, I have the top of the line (STIHL) in both battery and gas so can make a pretty good comparison.

I like the battery tools, but they are not good for every job and they are not nearly as affordable or flexible as the gasoline ones. What I would not like is being forced to buy them. Especially if poor. They are just expensive toys in comparison (that I can easily afford) for me. That was not always the case.

Not to derail the thread but I had a tree fall on my property about 30” at the base. I used my Greenworks 80v saw with an 18” bar to easily cut it down to rounds. I have the weed eater and blower as well so I just kept batteries on the charger in rotation. Best part is that I was up cutting at sunrise. No one in the hood even knew. Now removing the stump was a different story. The neighbors did not appreciate that job.

upsscott 01-11-2023 05:22 PM
Newsflash! Nobody is coming for your stupid stoves. Maybe, and hear me out here, maybe they will come up with a way to make new ones better and more safe. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gas-stove-ban-federal-regulators-consumer-product-safety-commission-richard-trumka/

flatbutt 01-11-2023 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Racerbvd (Post 11894385)
I have a gas hot water heater, when we lose power during a hurricane, I can still take hot showers, and in states like Cali, that sometimes lose power, those with gas stoves are still cooking.
Yup. During the aftermath of Hurricane Sandy my LP stove cooked up all that food that might have spoiled.

Por_sha911 01-11-2023 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11894259)
It's just a step up from hillbillies cooking on wood stoves.
Or where most chefs in Kalifornia would die to work in the best kitchens in my home town of NYC. Those chefs would rather work at Walmart than have to cook without gas stoves.

Arizona_928 01-11-2023 05:54 PM
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Not relevant to topic and an attempt to politicize.

-Modz

upsscott 01-11-2023 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Arizona_928 (Post 11894440)
Duh. Slide of hand to distract from the classified documents Biden had and his dark money u penn ccp donations....

Not gonna get lured into some parfy convo. Just stick to the facts. The stupid gas stoves are not in any danger.

island911 01-11-2023 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by upsscott (Post 11894450)
Not gonna get lured into some parfy convo. Just stick to the facts. The stupid gas stoves are not in any danger.
Look who's not paying attention. :-/

It is not only the stoves that are in the cross-hairs.
Did you not see where SF had banned all all gas from new construction?

HobieMarty 01-11-2023 08:43 PM
I just wonder this, if they say there could be a link to gas stoves and childhood asthma, why gas stoves alone? What about gas heat, or gas water heaters? I would think gas heat would put more so called toxins into the air than a gas stove. Thoughts?

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island911 01-11-2023 08:50 PM
Stoves are the only appliance that do not handle the combustibles directly.

Furnaces and HW tanks have direct venting of combustibles.

Arizona_928 01-11-2023 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11894518)
Look who's not paying attention. :-/

It is not only the stoves that are in the cross-hairs.
Did you not see where SF had banned all all gas from new construction?
If you cannot see this used as a distraction... well idk dude.


Outside of California... How many people use gas for heat? Millions. IF they're in rural areas without natural gas, they're using propane and wood. I knew a kid that was so poor he would sleep with his dog to stay warm. If one thinks that the "grid" can accommodate the extra load from the replacement of natural gas. Well might want to do some more research. Gas stoves are such a novelty in the realm of energy; it's comical to even to debate.

Arizona_928 01-11-2023 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11894521)
Stoves are the only appliance that do not handle the combustibles directly.

Furnaces and HW tanks have direct venting of combustibles.
Even then. Gas stoves and ranges have hoods (by code) to vent the CO. And then what's the CO ppm... Minimal; 800ppm and down to tens?


Leftists ideals to band wagon and distract.

upsscott 01-11-2023 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11894518)
Look who's not paying attention. :-/

It is not only the stoves that are in the cross-hairs.
Did you not see where SF had banned all all gas from new construction?
Read up fear monger.

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upsscott 01-11-2023 09:30 PM
Maybe in the future homes won't be built with accessibility to natural gas. My point is, nobody is coming for YOUR stupid stove. It's just another thing to throw out there to get all the tin foil hat wearers panties in a wad.

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hbueno 01-12-2023 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by HobieMarty (Post 11894519)
I just wonder this, if they say there could be a link to gas stoves and childhood asthma, why gas stoves alone? What about gas heat, or gas water heaters? I would think gas heat would put more so called toxins into the air than a gas stove. Thoughts?

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Because stoves "vent" into the living space, not all kitchens have range hoods that vent to the outside. Water heaters and gas boilers/furnaces vent to the outside.

mjohnson 01-12-2023 04:02 AM
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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11893203)
THey are not a code requirement here, and many don't actually move the air to outside.

For instance, I'd say that there's a 99.9% chance that this one sucks air in the bottom and then spits that air out of those slats in the front top.

https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hjsD3qvn2...hen%2Bhood.jpg
Ours looks like that, and vents through the roof. It seems like those HomeDespot/commodity grade ones can work both ways based on how/where you install it. Upcoming kitchen remodel will feature a hood with a remote and quieter fan, possibly makeup air as well, though our 1965-era house seems to provide plenty of "natural" ventilation.

And the cheapest, I mean most frugal, AC pans - the MasterChef2 are simply Al outside and austenitic SST inside. Magnet no sticky, induction no heaty. We got them because we were gas-powered at the time and they work great in that application at ~65% of the price of the fancy stuff. Now relegated to outdoor use with propane on the wok cooker.

Now back to politics...

masraum 01-12-2023 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 11894579)
Ours looks like that, and vents through the roof. It seems like those HomeDespot/commodity grade ones can work both ways based on how/where you install it. Upcoming kitchen remodel will feature a hood with a remote and quieter fan, possibly makeup air as well, though our 1965-era house seems to provide plenty of "natural" ventilation.

And the cheapest, I mean most frugal, AC pans - the MasterChef2 are simply Al outside and austenitic SST inside. Magnet no sticky, induction no heaty. We got them because we were gas-powered at the time and they work great in that application at ~65% of the price of the fancy stuff. Now relegated to outdoor use with propane on the wok cooker.

Now back to politics...
Yes, I've had a few uninstalled and seen the punchout in the top to allow for real venting. I've never run across one that was actually installed like that. I suppose it's not surprising that some get installed that way.

OK, so some of the cheap pans don't work that way. Good to know.

berettafan 01-12-2023 08:02 AM
Funny this comes up as i've been researching gas ranges. I do have to wonder what those silly hoods as shown by masraum actually accomplish.

masraum 01-12-2023 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by berettafan (Post 11894771)
Funny this comes up as i've been researching gas ranges. I do have to wonder what those silly hoods as shown by masraum actually accomplish.
They will help reduce grease/particulates in the air which will help keep the kitchen cleaner.

If you cook with grease/fat, after some time you may find that areas above the stove or places like the top of the fridge or cabinets has a sticky greasy residue. I assume that's because tiny grease/oil particulates end up in the air and eventually deposit. If the fan is on and that air gets sucked through that sort of vent, then some of those greasy/oily particulates may be filtered out of the air. And that will apply to ANY stove (not just gas).


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