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matthewb0051 01-27-2023 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11906451)
And none of those metric countries went to the moon, and back, a few times.

The imperial system weeds out the weak engineers. :)

* using stuff that was calculated using a slide rule... Just like the SR-71

masraum 01-27-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 11907634)
they are never interchangeable. there is no physics, dynamics, or mathematical equation that mass and weight can be interchanged.

scales should always read in newtons. because newtons is the unit of weight in the SI system.

The good news is that means that the US is a 2 percenter of countries that are "doing it right." I think that means the other 190 countries are practically cave men. Thank goodness there are no engineers in those other countries.

matthewb0051 01-27-2023 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11906437)
I thought they still used miles and pounds.

IIRC the Brits use miles for distance, stone for weight (14 lbs), pints for beer. But they are metric.

I have a 10 meter tape measure that I bought in Germany. I normally use it when working, waaaayyy easier.

Jeff Hail 01-27-2023 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott Douglas (Post 11906421)
And obsolete most of my old wrenches, not on your life!

10 of your SAE wrenches are already metric up to 15/16ths. Just need a few to fill in the gaps. With an adjustable metric spanner you almost have it made.

pwd72s 01-28-2023 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Hail (Post 11908008)
10 of your SAE wrenches are already metric up to 15/16ths. Just need a few to fill in the gaps. With an adjustable metric spanner you almost have it made.

Some truth to that...don't know all the swaps, but 19mm and 3/4" are virtually the same. If memory serves, think a grand difference of 5/1000 of an inch.

MFAFF 01-28-2023 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by matthewb0051 (Post 11907662)
IIRC the Brits use miles for distance, stone for weight (14 lbs), pints for beer. But they are metric.

If only it were that simple...

We use miles for road/travel distances and mph for speed. We measure fuel by the litre.... and cars are still able to be marketed with a miles per gallon (mpg) figure. Note we use a different gallon to the US one as well.

Metric weights are used in practically all areas (food stuffs, medical records etc) yet funds are still allowed as a standard measure in some food retail. Pound per square inch (PSI) is still recognised and widespread measure of pressure.. car tyres etc.

Beer and milk are the only liquids that can be sold in pints, everything else is in litres.

We measure letting and sales areas in building in square feet, yet build in metric, using Imperially dimensioned materials (such as bricks and lumber).

Land areas are more often referred by acre not hectare....yet field and land dims are metric.......

Couldn't make it up.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1674906949.JPG

Pretty standard measuring tools here.... both used. The steel rule still has "West Germany" as country of origin...

KFC911 01-28-2023 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11908047)
Some truth to that...don't know all the swaps, but 19mm and 3/4" are virtually the same. If memory serves, think a grand difference of 5/1000 of an inch.

5 milliinches?

dewolf 01-28-2023 04:56 AM

We still sell weed as ounces and pounds. All other stuff is metric. Height is in cm, weight in Kg's, liquid in litres, and building materials are in mtr /cm / mm. Makes sh$t simple.

slow&rusty 01-28-2023 05:44 AM

In the early 2000s, the US. Dep't of Transportation made a heartfelt run at the Metric system. Basically if you submitted a set of Design Plans (for a say a new road, highway or bridge) that were NOT in metric, you would not get paid.

It lasted a short time and then the program died as no-one could understand the metric units on the design prints and in meetings everyone just discussed the projects in miles, feet etc...sadly..for a moment I had hope.

pwd72s 01-28-2023 10:26 AM

Okay, I looked it up. Some wrench conversions SAE-Metric to jot down & put in your toolbox.

5/16 works for 8mm
3/8 works for 10mm
7/16 works for 11mm
1/2 works for 13mm
5/8 works for 16mm
11/16 works for 17mm
3/4 works for 19mm

stevej37 01-28-2023 10:55 AM

Why keep both metric and sae when you can use one for both?
Covers all sizes from 1/4 to 3/4 :D


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1674932077.jpg

pwd72s 01-28-2023 11:22 AM

Steve, LOL! Yep..."covers" all sizes. Removing or tightening? Well, that's another thing...

stevej37 01-28-2023 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by pwd72s (Post 11908326)
Steve, LOL! Yep..."covers" all sizes. Removing or tightening? Well, that's another thing...



Yes..it'll do both!
I think I've had it in my tool chest for over 20 years....never used it since trying it out when new. :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1674934123.jpg

cstreit 01-28-2023 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11908328)
Yes..it'll do both!
I think I've had it in my tool chest for over 20 years....never used it since trying it out when new. :)

Seems like a perfect too to round off those pesky corners on a bolt. :D

stevej37 01-28-2023 12:15 PM

The worst thing about it is.....you are using a 1" socket to remove a 1/4" nut.

But no...it doesn't round off the corners because the round cylinders only place force on the flat sides of the nut.

I would not recommend it. :)

KFC911 01-28-2023 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11908312)
Why keep both metric and sae when you can use one for both?
Covers all sizes from 1/4 to 3/4 :D


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1674932077.jpg

Did you get a second one for FREE ..... just paying the S&H :D?

stevej37 01-28-2023 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11908417)
Did you get a second one for FREE ..... just paying the S&H :D?


No...it's a 'Universal Socket'
You only need one in your tool chest.

(Today's price would prob be huge.):)

KFC911 01-28-2023 03:19 PM

Do NOT use it on a 10mm nut .... you have been duly warned!

gregpark 01-28-2023 03:59 PM

I'm a flooring contractor and obviously deal with square footage constantly. Most of my materials these days are manufactured in metric measurements but I contract in square feet, and with carpet in square yards which just adds to the conversion bother. Too much math but I'm used to it by now. Everything would be so much simpler in metric. Divide into 10 vs 12? Duh

masraum 01-28-2023 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stevej37 (Post 11908328)
Yes..it'll do both!
I think I've had it in my tool chest for over 20 years....never used it since trying it out when new. :)

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1674934123.jpg

I think I've got one or two, but I haven't ever tried them. I think I got them when my dad died. They don't look like he'd ever used them either. One had smaller, denser pins which I think would make it work better.


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