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masraum 01-30-2023 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11909872)
You are a grumpy old pedant.

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Originally Posted by cockerpunk (Post 11909913)
this was the claim: The meter is the perimeter of the earth divided by 40M.

it is false.

Thank you for proving my point. :D

cstreit 01-30-2023 06:35 PM

Well look at this thread.

Next topic: Metric Oils - which should I use in my car? :D

Pazuzu 01-30-2023 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11909872)
But it absolutely WAS based on the earth at one time. Which is what I said. I'm assuming you get that "was" is past tense and what "was" and "past tense" means.

You are a grumpy old pedant.

You're being nice. Based on this thread alone, I woulda called him an obnoxious crackhead.

A kilogram is 2.2 pounds. A meter is 40 inches. A tonne is bigger than a ton, but not much. A speck of seasoning is what balances on the fingertip, a pinch is what's pinched between two fingers. A gallon of water weighs 8 pounds, but costs less than 8 pounds.

jcwade 01-30-2023 10:19 PM

Not going to read all 7 previous pages but using base 10 would be so much easier than the imperial system.
Just writing this after measuring for a new set of blinds that the new dog destroyed.
57 14/16. WTF? We're better than this, or maybe not.

sc_rufctr 01-31-2023 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by cstreit (Post 11910338)
Well look at this thread.

Next topic: Metric Oils - which should I use in my car? :D

How about Metric Tyres? ;)

GH85Carrera 01-31-2023 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by jcwade (Post 11910445)
Not going to read all 7 previous pages but using base 10 would be so much easier than the imperial system.
Just writing this after measuring for a new set of blinds that the new dog destroyed.
57 14/16. WTF? We're better than this, or maybe not.

That is easier to say that one as 14 & 7/8th. Same measurement.

Tim Hancock 01-31-2023 06:38 AM

I have used both my whole life from Honda minibikes to both foreign and domestic cars to a mechanical design engineer career. I have plenty of both wrenches sockets etc.

I prefer designing in inches, feet and pounds but design in both depending on customer specs.

To this day, I have to really think or use a converter when dealing with weight, volume or torque measurements in metric. If given the choice, I would never use the metric system. :p

Now get off my lawn

GH85Carrera 01-31-2023 06:48 AM

I have owned a VW Bug or a Porsche since I was was 16, and I did most of the maintenance and repairs on them. So yea, I have a full set of metric tools.

I have a drawer of SAE wrenches and sockets, but not near as much as metric. I did not even own SAE tools until I got the El Camino. It is part metric, and part SAE so find a wrench that fits is a challenge sometimes.

As we all understand it a 13 is too small, go to a 14 if the 13 was just a but small. I still have to stop and think if I am using a 5/16th and need to go up one size. That is when metric shines the most.

908/930 01-31-2023 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11910477)
How about Metric Tyres? ;)

Do you remember the Michelin TRX? 415mm rim size.

masraum 01-31-2023 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pazuzu (Post 11910419)
You're being nice. Based on this thread alone, I woulda called him an obnoxious crackhead.

A kilogram is 2.2 pounds. A meter is 40 inches. A tonne is bigger than a ton, but not much. A speck of seasoning is what balances on the fingertip, a pinch is what's pinched between two fingers. A gallon of water weighs 8 pounds, but costs less than 8 pounds.

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I feel like I remember a time when he wasn't yelling at everyone to get off his lawn. I'm giving him the benefit of a doubt and honor his history of being a less grumpy, more positive and productive poster.

oldE 01-31-2023 11:14 AM

I guess I just grew up with Imperial units and learned to appreciate metric when I got my first motorcycle. I seldom bother with conversion unless I find myself unconsciously converting mpg to l/100km.
For most things I don't even think about it. Just go with the flow.
Some folks seem to spend a lot of time agonizing over trivial things.
In the non-trivial, if I recall correctly, there were actually two incidents where Air Canada jets ran out of fuel due to flight deck crew ordering fuel in kg and receiving their fuel in lbs.(ie: ordered10,000 kg got 10,000lbs) One was, as mentioned above the Gimli Glider, the other landed in the Canary Islands.
Not too many alternate runways in the Atlantic. :confused:

Best
Les

pwd72s 01-31-2023 11:21 AM

The cars we have are now mostly metric...but our appliances are still USA...try getting the covers off without a 1/4" nut driver. Actually, nut drivers are rollaway space robbers. A 1/4" square drive driver handle and a good collection of 1/4" drive sockets works as well and covers a wider variety of sizes than most nut driver sets.

(edit) Les, I just watched a video on the Grimli Glider...hell of a story. They sure had the right pilot at the controls!

rwest 01-31-2023 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by sc_rufctr (Post 11910477)
How about Metric Tyres? ;)

Many, many years ago I had a Saab 900 turbo that needed a tire. I loaded it into another car and went to the tire shop- manager comes out, takes one look at the tires and proclaims “you’re f**cked”. Yup, metric size and tough to find. I think he managed to find one somewhere; can’t remember what ever happened to that car.

jyl 01-31-2023 08:58 PM

Would 36-26-36 sound right in metric, though?

91-66-91 just doesn’t have that va va voom.

jyl 01-31-2023 09:06 PM

The conversion that trips me up the most is temperature.

Intellectually I know that to convert from C to F you multiply by 1.8 and add 32 (e.g. 28C = 1.8 * 28 + 32 = 80.4F and the reverse for F to C, subtract 32 and divide by 1.8 (e.g. 76F = (76 - 32) / 1.8 = 24.4 C, and that using 2 instead of 1.8 is close enough for daily life. But in practice I just go out and am too cold or too hot.

island911 01-31-2023 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jcwade (Post 11910445)
Not going to read all 7 previous pages but using base 10 would be so much easier than the imperial system....

Base 10 !?

n'no, we must do everything now in base 2 to appease our AI overlords - it's the future doncha know

wilnj 02-01-2023 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11911356)
The conversion that trips me up the most is temperature.

Intellectually I know that to convert from C to F you multiply by 1.8 and add 32 (e.g. 28C = 1.8 * 28 + 32 = 80.4F and the reverse for F to C, subtract 32 and divide by 1.8 (e.g. 76F = (76 - 32) / 1.8 = 24.4 C, and that using 2 instead of 1.8 is close enough for daily life. But in practice I just go out and am too cold or too hot.


But that’s where metric makes more sense.

Freezing is 0, boiling is 100.

Versus freezing is 32 unless you happen yo have a solution of water, ice and ammonium chloride, in which case it’s 0.


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flatbutt 02-01-2023 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by island911 (Post 11911384)
Base 10 !?

n'no, we must do everything now in base 2 to appease our AI overlords - it's the future doncha know

As they say there are 10 types of people...:D

911 Rod 02-01-2023 06:22 AM

I have lots and lots of fasteners that I have collected for years and they are all imperial.
Metric for all of the toys.

masraum 02-01-2023 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jyl (Post 11911356)
The conversion that trips me up the most is temperature.

Intellectually I know that to convert from C to F you multiply by 1.8 and add 32 (e.g. 28C = 1.8 * 28 + 32 = 80.4F and the reverse for F to C, subtract 32 and divide by 1.8 (e.g. 76F = (76 - 32) / 1.8 = 24.4 C, and that using 2 instead of 1.8 is close enough for daily life. But in practice I just go out and am too cold or too hot.

Agreed, the F/C thing is a pain.
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Originally Posted by wilnj (Post 11911442)
But that’s where metric makes more sense.

Freezing is 0, boiling is 100.

Versus freezing is 32 unless you happen yo have a solution of water, ice and ammonium chloride, in which case it’s 0.


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0 and 100 are great, but I prefer the more granular F index to C. I like thinking about setting the HVAC to 70, 71, or 72 better than 21, 21.5, and 22. I think 0-200 would have been preferable to either. But then if I'd grown up with 0-100 and thinking of tenths, I'd probably be fine with that.


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