F1 2023

[rfuerst911sc]

^^^ That is sweet mechanical music ! Thanks for sharing .

[yellowperil]

Trouble brewing, might be messy. I imagine Horner will survive. Might not be good for Red Bull, though.

[GH85Carrera]

You did not specify what problems. But I can't imagine why the owner would mess with the dominate winning team setup, except maybe replace Perez.

[herr_oberst]

The Red Bull owner died; there's a power struggle now between Marko and Horner to see who gets to be the decider. It was bound to break out into the open eventually, frankly I'm surprised it took this long. Marko has another year left on his contract.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

The Red Bull owner died; there's a power struggle now between Marko and Horner to see who gets to be the decider. It was bound to break out into the open eventually, frankly I'm surprised it took this long. Marko has another year left on his contract.

OK, the power struggle after the power vacuum.

I saw that Hamilton was fined 50K Euro for his stroll across the track after his crash. He is no rookie, and should know better. I guess his luck is normally for the other car to be taken out, and he keeps racing, so it was a different situation for him.

He has just a handful of DNFs in his long career.

[Deschodt]

Horner runs the team, Marko runs young pilots, ruins careers, and makes racist comments now and then. I don't think that is even close.

[rfuerst911sc]

Well this is an interesting rumor . Not sure how true it is .

https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/rumours/f1-rumour-porsche-to-take-over-audi-formula-one-entry-sj4

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

Well this is an interesting rumor . Not sure how true it is .

https://www.si.com/fannation/racing/f1briefings/rumours/f1-rumour-porsche-to-take-over-audi-formula-one-entry-sj4

Interesting. One thing to remember, the Porsche families own the majority of VW, which owns Porsche, Audi, VW Skoda and all the others. They are in control of it all. One of the richest families in all of Europe. If they decide to use the Porsche name instead of Audi, it just change the logo, and keep on working.

[URY914]

Only problem is.......... losing. Remember the CART loser? Porsche doesn't like to lose and they will in F1.

[astrochex]

Originally Posted by URY914

Only problem is.......... losing. Remember the CART loser? Porsche doesn't like to lose and they will in F1.

They were hosed by the rules. They did win with Teo Fabi.

[URY914]

Originally Posted by astrochex

They were hosed by the rules. They did win with Teo Fabi.

One race in three years and it was in a March. They have rules in F1 too.

[Zeke]

I watched an update on the LV track last night. Pretty interesting.

[astrochex]

Originally Posted by URY914

One race in three years and it was in a March. They have rules in F1 too.

They had a carbon chassis that was approved then not allowed. They had to redesign the chassis and never fully recovered the speed.

[stealthn]

Interesting!

Someone on X just posted that the posters around COTA shows Felipe Drugovich instead of Lance Stroll with all the other drivers.

[GH85Carrera]

Originally Posted by stealthn

Interesting!

Someone on X just posted that the posters around COTA shows Felipe Drugovich instead of Lance Stroll with all the other drivers.

I have to feel sorry for Lance. Like many young drivers, he wanted to be a F1 driver. With daddies money, he got to be one. And his 42 year old teammate has soundly beat him race after race, and not by just a little.

Back when I was in my 20s I was driving my 914 as my daily driver and winning many autocrosses. I thought I was good. Then I did a track day with the Peachstate PCA and we drove Road Atlanta. I had done one session and felt like I was doing OK for a 95 HP street car. One instructor asked if I wanted any help, and he drove my car with me in it. On his first lap, he was two seconds faster than I was. He was 4 seconds faster after a few laps. I went out and tried his lines, and brake points, and I was faster than before, but never close to him. I knew then, I was not going to be a race car driver. I still have a blast on track. I would love to have a top pro drive my car with me in it, just to show me what my car can do. Not likely to ever happen. I still have fun, and that is all I really care about, and getting to drive it back home.

[herr_oberst]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I have to feel sorry for Lance

Not here. Not one bit. Not even a little.

There's a lot of Sennas out there that will never get a chance.

[Deschodt]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

I have to feel sorry for Lance. Like many young drivers, he wanted to be a F1 driver. With daddies money, he got to be one. And his 42 year old teammate has soundly beat him race after race, and not by just a little.

Not a fan of his, but the guy *did* finish on the podium a few times in F1, even before Fernando joined and the Aston was as good as this year. He is not THAT bad, I don't think other pay drivers managed that. Still, it seems something broke inside, it must suck to be him with all that invested in you, face Alonso, and realize there's another entire level above you !!! He looks broken to me ! (the shoving, the attitude at COTA press conference)

Originally Posted by herr_oberst

Not here. Not one bit. Not even a little.
There's a lot of Sennas out there that will never get a chance.

I agree with that also, but such is life. If American idol taught us anything, 20% of the population can sing ! 1% sound as good as Mariah Carey (or whoever) ;-) Some get lucky, some do not.

[Reg]

Half the field (maybe more) is paying to be there in some way not just Stroll. I saw a post earlier where he beat Russell I believe it was in junior categories.

[917_Langheck]

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

Back when I was in my 20s I was driving my 914 as my daily driver and winning many autocrosses. I thought I was good. Then I did a track day with the Peachstate PCA and we drove Road Atlanta. I had done one session and felt like I was doing OK for a 95 HP street car. One instructor asked if I wanted any help, and he drove my car with me in it. On his first lap, he was two seconds faster than I was. He was 4 seconds faster after a few laps. I went out and tried his lines, and brake points, and I was faster than before, but never close to him. I knew then, I was not going to be a race car driver. I still have a blast on track. I would love to have a top pro drive my car with me in it, just to show me what my car can do. Not likely to ever happen. I still have fun, and that is all I really care about, and getting to drive it back home.

Some years ago, before the tribe destroyed the track, Boris Said and his racing buddy showed up at Amago kart track. I was crewing and driving C-open kart - twin 135cc B-Bombs on methanol configured in direct drive. Boris et al. we're driving 125cc shifters. The C-open made mega power right out of the corner and pulled hard through the midrange, so it should have been no worries keeping up through the fast twisty section. While I drove a fast, smooth line, he just flicked and danced that kart down the track (basically just full throttle while whole time, scrubbing speed off with the tires, not the left foot) and distanced me. Very disheartening.

Then, in the pits, I found out why when he pitched his custom Trans Am race-ready helmet on the ground and stopped it bouncing on the tarmac like a basketball with his foot. I drove the kart like it belonged to someone else and couldn't pay for it, whereas he drove like it would be someone else's problem if it went kablamo.

You can see that today when an up and coming F1 shoe parks the car into the fence a couple of times. The pressure to not screw up causes more screw ups. The flip side to that potential, however, are people like Grosjean.

[red 928]

This morning I recorded what I thought was the F1 free practice 1.

Boy was I surprised that it was in fact the F1 academy
which is apparently F1's version of the WNBA and is better than
F2 and F3 which are based on old fashioned notions of
driver performance and talent.
No, the woke F1 academy obviously puts priority on gender and race.
Just as it should be.

F1 is finally starting to become a serious organization
with good leadership and a future!!!
Now they just need to get a some drivers who are transitioning.


I can't remember ever witnessing a successful organization
try so hard to commit suicide.