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A930Rocket 04-13-2023 07:55 PM

I’ve been building houses for over 30 years and had to look up roof jacks.

Baz, keep us posted on what your friend says.

Zeke 04-14-2023 06:41 AM

I hate the look of a valley weave. And you can get it backwards believe it or not.

herr_oberst 04-14-2023 06:44 AM

Zeke, that surprises me! I always thought it was a step above, as though valley flashing was taking the easy way out!

MBAtarga 04-14-2023 07:41 AM

This is what our newly installed shingles (Sep '22) look like. Those in Baz' pictures look to me like they are not laying consistently flat.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1681486637.jpg

gregpark 04-14-2023 07:45 AM

Contrary to popular belief- it's the underlying membrane (tar paper, Tyvex, etc) that truely water proofs your roof, even more so than the shingles. The heavy comp shingles shed water but protect from high wind and damaging sun. Sand is adhered to the shingles reflect the harmful rays and buy time.

masraum 04-14-2023 08:13 AM

You guys are doing it wrong.

Quote:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1681488761.jpg
How many layers of shingles can we stack on the old cedar?…. Enough that the nails only hit shingles🤣 there’s at least 2 1/2 inches of shingles there
as seen yesterday on facebook.

911 Rod 04-14-2023 08:22 AM

Did the shingles have the tabs that you bend over to start another row?

herr_oberst 04-14-2023 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 11973152)
You guys are doing it wrong.



as seen yesterday on facebook.

Smear a gob of blackjack into that hole and you're good for another 20 years. :)

(Can you imagine what the joists holding that roof look like!)

masraum 04-14-2023 09:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11973176)
Smear a gob of blackjack into that hole and you're good for another 20 years. :)

(Can you imagine what the joists holding that roof look like!)

LOL. Right, that was one of the comments. The roof must have been VERY heavy and the rafters/trusses must have been VERY strong (or barely hanging on).

Baz 04-14-2023 12:42 PM

Good news! My buddy went up on the roof, even inspected the top vents, and gave it his thumbs up. He also confirmed the round vents did have the proper boots.

He also said the company who did the work is still the one he recommends when asked.

It did look a little better today so maybe it's just a matter for the warm temps to allow the shingles to relax and lay down more.

This really takes a load off my mind.

I also noticed the city signed off (final) on the permit.

Once again appreciate all the comments and input here!

stevej37 04-14-2023 12:44 PM

Good deal!

herr_oberst 04-14-2023 12:53 PM

That's great, Baz. You didn't need that worry. Glad the work is up to snuff.

KFC911 04-14-2023 01:03 PM

Excellent Baz!

I'm 99% sure roof jobs don't get permits or inspections here btw.... never seen anything posted.

masraum 04-14-2023 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baz (Post 11973392)
Good news! My buddy went up on the roof, even inspected the top vents, and gave it his thumbs up. He also confirmed the round vents did have the proper boots.

He also said the company who did the work is still the one he recommends when asked.

It did look a little better today so maybe it's just a matter for the warm temps to allow the shingles to relax and lay down more.

This really takes a load off my mind.

I also noticed the city signed off (final) on the permit.

Once again appreciate all the comments and input here!

Awesome!

masraum 04-14-2023 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11973427)
Excellent Baz!

I'm 99% sure roof jobs don't get permits or inspections here btw.... never seen anything posted.

That's surprising. How far inland are you? I would think anything near the coast in the southeast would have to have permits due to the whole hurricane thing. But I know that it often varies based on whether you're in city limits or the county and what city/county you're in. When we lived in our old home, it was a 35 mile drive to the beach (~28 miles as the crow flies) but it was in the same county that was on the coast. When we had our roof replaced, because we were in a "coastal county" our roof had to meet the same standards as the roof of a home on the beach. And homes <1/4mile away didn't have to meet those same standards. We had to have a permit, although I can't remember if it was posted anywhere doing the job.

I was talking to a guy the other day that swore up and down and argued with a contractor that was supposed to be working on his swimming pool that a permit was not required.

Superman 04-14-2023 01:45 PM

Excellent!

Zeke 04-14-2023 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by herr_oberst (Post 11973022)
Zeke, that surprises me! I always thought it was a step above, as though valley flashing was taking the easy way out!

I doubt it's any easier since all the valley shingles have to be cut whereas a weave uses full shingles. Normally the shingles are run in a way so that the larger of the 2 sheds meeting at the valley gives the advantage to the larger volume.

What it doesn't do for me is define the roof. I like a valley to see the roof lines. For instance, dormers would look silly blended in. Roofs should be sharp and crisp.

It does take talent to do a good weave, I'll give you that. I'm not a roofer but I do know flashing well as a framer. The best roofers are the best at flashing and doing things like crickets. And as a framer I have had to provide the structure that will drain.

speeder 04-14-2023 03:24 PM

I’ve done better roofing jobs than that, (a lot better), and I’m not even a roofer. It’s not rocket science.

Ferdekalen 12-10-2024 02:24 AM

When I had my roof done a few years ago, I was super picky about how the shingles looked, too. It's good to hear you went with Owens Corning Duration shingles; they’re known for being solid. From the pictures, it seems like something might not be lining up quite right—whether it's the alignment or how the shingles are sitting. Sometimes, even with reputable companies, you can end up with odd details if the crew isn’t as careful.When I did my own roof, I noticed a few issues with how things were laid out, so I had them check it again. It turned out to be a simple mistake in the shingle overlap. Just as a suggestion, I’d look into whether plastic roofing tiles could give you the aesthetic you're looking for.


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