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Baz 04-12-2023 08:43 PM

This new shingle roof doesn't look right to me.....
 
My Mom's house.

Owens Corning Duration lifetime architectural shingles in Antique Silver.

Job was done on Monday by a very reputable local company. I know roofing companies sub out their work all the time but not sure that was done this time.

Doesn't look right to me.

All pics just of the back of the house......

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smadsen 04-12-2023 08:56 PM

If you're used to a smoother finished look, the shingles with random "extra" layers look unusual. Looks O.K. to me, but I was a banker by trade. I did put three asphalt shingle roofs on my house by myself over the last 50 years. I think so long as the shingle courses are overlapped and nailed properly you should be good for at least 20 years+.

john walker's workshop 04-12-2023 09:13 PM

I'd be annoyed.

sc_rufctr 04-12-2023 09:21 PM

Does it get windy at your mom's house? Those little edges may get picked up by the wind.
(Just an observation)

How are the shingles secured? Nails?

917_Langheck 04-12-2023 10:00 PM

Specs of the material looks good https://www.owenscorning.com/en-us/roofing/shingles/trudefinition-duration and good for 130 mph winds.

But having so many shingle edges line up inline, or only slightly staggered, looks incorrect. That shouldn't be an issue so long as it's not actual joints along individual sheets.

fintstone 04-12-2023 10:29 PM

Here is an example of a roof I just had put on a rental (CertainTeed Landmark Pro architectural shingles) and new gutters/downspouts. I like the texture but think it looks better in the charcoal black. It has a 25-year labor warranty and a 50-year, non-prorated material warranty. It has a 130mph wind rating. The installers were supposedly top notch.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1681367193.JPG

Some good examples of properly installed ones here (they seem to be done much more symmetrically than yours):

https://www.certainteed.com/resources/LandmarkPRO-SW.pdf

LWJ 04-13-2023 01:57 AM

I know there is a randomness intended, but the layout looks weird.

When laying a hardwood floor you never have to pieces end at the same place if they are next to each other.

I was taught (not random roof) to stagger the lines. I am not an expert at ALL. I bet the manufacturer has a spec called out. Look at the website. If it is not correct, have them redo it.

A930Rocket 04-13-2023 02:51 AM

Where are the roof vent boots?

It’s hard to tell from the pictures, but when was it installed (edit Monday) and have you had any hot days, to help the shingles settle down and stick better?

Also, do you have a stick frame roof or roof trusses? Roof trusses can be 24” on center, and the roof decking can show up as waviness in the roof.

KFC911 04-13-2023 03:12 AM

Looks like crappola to me .... mebbe the crew was hungover or still drinking :(. I watched a crew install a roof across the street last year.... they didn't stagger the rows, working horizontally up the roof... they did it vertically from bottom to top .... one row, then the next, with no overlap..... at least your mom's isn't that bad. I'd call them and raise hell ..... but also keep in mind your mom's age and maybe consider what the future holds?

Good luck Baz!

Bob Kontak 04-13-2023 03:44 AM

Those shingles will lay down but I don't think that's what you are concerned with.

I think it's fine but as similar to above, I'm an accountant.

Scout around and find comparables before getting on the horn.

vonsmog 04-13-2023 03:55 AM

I had a new roof done a few years ago and it had quite a few shingles that looked raised. The roofer was trying to tell me that the sun will flatten it out some in a week or so. I went up and found at least 50 exposed nail heads, and the workers were holding the nail gun at an angle so the nail head was up on one side and holding up the shingle. Told the roofer there was no way he was getting paid until all the exposed nails were pulled as well as the shingles that they were in, and took a hammer to all the popped up nail heads. Or I would just sue him for the complete tear off of the roof he put on and a new one installed. The owner of the company said I was hard to work for, I said "Why, because I want the job done right?" Then he states that he fired all the guys who did my roof. And I said, "that does not help me out one bit. Should have fired them before they did my roof." They made all the corrections, but were not happy that I got up on the roof and inspection of it before paying them.

asphaltgambler 04-13-2023 04:04 AM

^^^^Good for you man, I always check other people's work, not only when I hire someone to address personal projects, but in my work AOR.

I always give a 'heads-up' before committing that I have high standards for the finished product, but am reasonable to deal with. If that doesn't suit you / your company, let me know before we proceed

flatbutt 04-13-2023 04:24 AM

WTH are those skinny bits? There are some strange overlaps too. I'd ask the roofer to explain those to me.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-13-2023 04:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vonsmog (Post 11971836)
I had a new roof done a few years ago and it had quite a few shingles that looked raised. The roofer was trying to tell me that the sun will flatten it out some in a week or so. I went up and found at least 50 exposed nail heads, and the workers were holding the nail gun at an angle so the nail head was up on one side and holding up the shingle. Told the roofer there was no way he was getting paid until all the exposed nails were pulled as well as the shingles that they were in, and took a hammer to all the popped up nail heads. Or I would just sue him for the complete tear off of the roof he put on and a new one installed. The owner of the company said I was hard to work for, I said "Why, because I want the job done right?" Then he states that he fired all the guys who did my roof. And I said, "that does not help me out one bit. Should have fired them before they did my roof." They made all the corrections, but were not happy that I got up on the roof and inspection of it before paying them.

That's how you do it. Ballsy, bravo.

VINMAN 04-13-2023 04:27 AM

Those look similar to Timberline Natural Shadow shingles. Ive installed plenty of them.
Something is definitely off with them. Courses weren't staggered and started correctly. You definitely don't want those narrow strips of shingle in the middle of a wide one. Lots of issues i see. Flashing/stack boots look missing also.

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Chocaholic 04-13-2023 04:28 AM

Shingles look fine to me Baz. Architectural shingle. Although vent pipes should have boots. Looks like they slabbed a bit of tar around them. That won’t last.

Shaun @ Tru6 04-13-2023 04:36 AM

Are these 1-2" strips? And what's with that one I put a ? next to. It's got an angle line bottom left corner.

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IS300 04-13-2023 04:39 AM

agree where are the boots on the vents? did the remove old shingles, or second layer?

URY914 04-13-2023 04:40 AM

Once the heat of the summer hits it, the edges will lay down. I don't see a problem with it. Talk to your roofer about your concerns.

VINMAN 04-13-2023 04:41 AM

Yep, that's exactly one if the issues I mentioned. That's a huge no-no. Creates a weak point for wind intrusion and lift. One of many.

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