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stomachmonkey 04-24-2023 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 11981669)
The neighbor has good reason to take action against you for that light. And he has legal precedent on his side. Don't escalate. Bad plan. OTOH, you could have gotten an order for him to not direct any lights into your windows.

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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins (Post 11981717)
Gotta agree with Zeke - yours is a deliberate act of escalation, intended to provoke. This will not end well for you.

Yup.

He has a bunch of lights that illuminate his property to your detriment but it does not sound like he is intentionally targeting you.

You on the other hand are intentionally targeting / harassing / antagonizing him.

I'm not saying you should or should not retaliate because that's entirely your choice.

Just do it in a way that does not create exposure for you.

asphaltgambler 04-24-2023 07:33 AM

Have the same type neighbor. Unfortunately he's the closest out of just a few others. I call him "Mr Angry Pants". His wife left him, older daughter doesn't visit, younger daughter, now in college, visits begrudgingly. He drinks beer/ smokes cigarettes all the time. A while back, his dog, ran over on our property while I was walking my dog. Has no collar, he refuses to have her on a leash. I've politely asked him to keep his dog on his property.

So he runs over to get his dog, shines a flashlight in my wife's face, called her a B#$@^. I went over, did not engage, told him to leave. Called the local animal control on him next morning. I also adjusted my security cameras on that end of my house to focus on my property line.

Here's the key, I don't engage him, period. He's dead to me. I'm not going to escalate this into the Hatfields & McCoys. The people that owned our house prior to us, had a restraining order, multiple court cases with him - nonsense

911 Rod 04-24-2023 08:32 AM

The problem we have is because there are no street lights, all other lights appear bright.
Have you gone over there at night to talk to him?

Seahawk 04-24-2023 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11981724)
He has a bunch of lights that illuminate his property to your detriment but it does not sound like he is intentionally targeting you.

You on the other hand are intentionally targeting / harassing / antagonizing him.

I'm not saying you should or should not retaliate because that's entirely your choice.

Just do it in a way that does not create exposure for you.

Perfectly stated.

It has been written here in the past: Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

After almost 30 years here at Rancho Seahawk, I don't look forward to having neighbors. The house I bought in SC has been a rental for two years and the neighbor
is a putz.

On second thought, what kind of light, again? :D

juanbenae 04-24-2023 09:04 AM

yes, have spoken to him, texted him and emailed him about this over the last year and a half so he is well aware of the impact. Last night the place went dark very early in the evening, so the beacon comes down today. This was never to be a forever thing, as I said I've had the flasher for 6 months and not implemented it. it will go up on a as needed basis.


I do not expect dude to kill his lights at 8PM or anything silly but leaving it on all night is where it rubs me wrong. I am in a very rural area so it is pitch black at night.

I will not even get into his backpack blower use.... this affects the neighbor on the other side more than me when he blows the pollen and dust toward their house right about the time windows are starting to be opened for evening cooling. neighbors wife's nice car gets trashed due to this every other day or so all summer.

unclebilly 04-24-2023 09:59 AM

We got a new neighbor last year. His house is 3/4 of a mile away. He put up some very bright lights.

He is having it out with another neighbor who lives closer over the lights. I’m not getting involved.

For me, if I have a bad neighbor, I will line up all my crappy old farm equipment along the property line and if I need to escalate, I will get pigs…

Right now, there is no need and I hope there never will be.

Danimal16 04-24-2023 10:06 AM

I had a neighbor similar to this, on a far smaller scale. It also included sound. For the light I used highly reflective window film, it really cut down on the impact. At the same time I planted poplars inside the property line, those things grow like crazy. The trees were far closer to his/her house than mine. In a year the problem was all on them as the trees provided cover. After about three years they asked me to remove the trees. Nope, not without a written agreement (and the nice impact the trees had on my house on sunny afternoons).

I had motion sensors on my lights and he/she refused to reciprocate. The passive response worked out well for me, including the numerous unplanned consequences, like the shade and greenery.

Found out that the HOA was fining the crap out of them for all the other violations. I moved two years ago to a much nicer and more secluded area.

id10t 04-24-2023 10:10 AM

You know his mailing address, so I'll just leave a little entertaining reading for ya...

https://it.slashdot.org/story/03/04/15/2027225/dos-attack-via-us-postal-service

unclebilly 04-24-2023 10:30 AM

If you do plan to continue with the beacon, make sure you add some wires between it and your well pump or septic system so that it is obvious that it is merely a flashing light that indicates a fault with your waterworks…

ErVikingo 04-25-2023 03:32 AM

Tocayo, I get the frustration (i had various issues with a neighbor - thankfully he sold and moved away) BUT you should defuse the situation. Should it become time to talk to authorities you don't want to be at (shared) fault.

ah, don't plow his drive......

stomachmonkey 04-25-2023 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 11981663)
And people wonder why we live in the sticks .....

Twain Harte is the sticks.

Population is like 2,500 people, 1/5th of Butler.

masraum 04-25-2023 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Noah930 (Post 11981455)
Anyone have the paint code for baby poo yellow handy?

First thing that popped into my head after reading the first post.
"Got a wall you can paint baby poo yellow?"

I miss OJU

stevej37 04-25-2023 04:54 PM

No surprises here.

masraum 04-25-2023 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11983239)
Twain Harte is the sticks.

Population is like 2,500 people, 1/5th of Butler.

I was curious.

The closest "town" to us is Weimar, population ~2k, 4 miles away.
Then we live in Borden (not the county, and yes, named after the milk guy) which is an "unincorporated community" that had 60 residents in 2000.
The next town down the road, Glidden (not named after the paint peeps as far as I know), 7.5 miles population ~550.
Next down from Glidden is Columbus, ~12 miles, population ~3600
The opposite direction from Columbus, past Weimar about 12 miles down the road is Schulenburg, population ~2700.

So ~25 mile east-west stretch accounts for about 9k folks. The county that we live in is 974sq miles, and has a population of 20k folks. I'm digging a population density of 20 people per square mile.

LEAKYSEALS951 04-25-2023 05:03 PM

I am experiencing an uptic of uptalk at work, which, is a bit like the aural version of the neighbors visual light intrusion.

This inspired me to write a ten step path to success.

Well- my path - sucked. Instead, I will share points 4 and 6 of my 10 step plan:

4. There needs to be a plan of being in charge- specifically, how 'my' steps of escalation will provide an offramp to solution, not to a third party (i.e. popo/ lawyers) having to step in and enforce a solution.

6. Make sure blinky is not stolen from work site or is state property.

juanbenae 04-26-2023 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by stomachmonkey (Post 11983239)
Twain Harte is the sticks.

Population is like 2,500 people, 1/5th of Butler.

I'm one of the last TH addresses on Tuolumne Rd. No. so I'm not even in "town" where the houses are much more tightly packed. My place is on three acres and if not for his lights you can barely see your hand in front of your face when there is no moon.

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Originally Posted by ErVikingo (Post 11982502)

ah, don't plow his drive......

I plow the common road that serves three household that is prolly 300' and kinda steep for myself mostly. The other neighbor's wife will bring by cookies every once in a while for my clearing efforts. Don't do his area off the main drive, I don't even leave a berm..

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEAKYSEALS951 (Post 11983271)

6. Make sure blinky is not stolen from work site or is state property.

Amazon, like $25.



UPDATE-- lights have been off at around 10PM every night since his last "infraction" and the blinker. Another neighbor a couple houses away did say he saw it Sundee night, but being 300 yards away it was no bother.

KFC911 04-26-2023 01:55 PM

Excellent! The acres of woods behind my house are pitch black too .... or were :(. A spotlight is like a supernova. My new neighbor has no clue how annoying it is to several neighbors either... and she throws out scraps that attract the 4 legged predators too.... city folks ...

LEAKYSEALS951 04-26-2023 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by juanbenae (Post 11984016)



Amazon, like $25.


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Good man.:D

Baz 04-26-2023 04:17 PM

Keep fighting the good fight!

My similar thread from 6 years ago:

https://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/957476-my-neighbors-new-obnoxious-annoying-flood-light.html

flatbutt 04-26-2023 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 11984028)
Excellent! The acres of woods behind my house are pitch black too .... or were :(. A spotlight is like a supernova. My new neighbor has no clue how annoying it is to several neighbors either... and she throws out scraps that attract the 4 legged predators too.... city folks ...

yup...every time


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