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Explain to me overnight parking.

Yes this has to do with my HOA and my candidacy.

It's a hot topic for our community and I'm sure we will need to deal with it.

Basically our covenants prohibit street parking but only between 10pm and 7am, overnight, and for more than 5 days in a month whether consecutive days or not.

What I don't get is the overnight only restriction. We are talking about a time period were virtually no one is out and about driving around so the common safety complaints about street parking don't really make a lot of sense.

We are a semi rural area, there is no overnight activity like street cleaning, sanitation services coming through, nothing happening that street parking would interfere with.

I've looked around and tried to find some justification for it but come up short.

I feel like it's something the original developer tossed in there for ****s and giggles and never really gave it much thought.

Can anyone think of / know of a good reason for it that makes sense?

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Old 06-04-2023, 10:47 AM
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You are taking HOA rules and covenants and trying to apply logic and common sense . You sir are doomed 😁 .

When we lived in our Orlando house the HOA's rules were meant to stop commercial vehicles from overnight parking . A commercial vehicle was anything that had advertising on the exterior .

At a HOA meeting I asked a simple question . If the commercial signs on the outside of the vehicle were covered up would the vehicle be allowed to park overnight . After some hemming and hawwing the answer was yes .

Within a few days everyone that lived in the community with commercial vehicles had blank magnetic signs to go over the real signs . How ridiculous to have to do that . I never lived in a HOA community again . Good luck .
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A hot topic ... your candidacy ... a HOA ... overnight parking police .... ???

I got nuthin'....

Mebbe it's to prevent college keg parties and orgies from invading yer 'hood?

It's a bad rule
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If it's the will of the homeowners..it can probably be changed. HOA are irrational and run by tyrants in general, but never underestimate the potential stupidity of "that one guy" who decides to work on 'friend's cars' and leaves a half dozen in the street. Or that company that parks a billboard truck in the street. And then everyone wants that rule back the next week. YMMV of course. Talk to people and take the soft approach. Maybe permit exceptions can be made or some other thing that doesn't affect the general community and what the intention of it covers.
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My guess is that it's a way to keep people from having 6 cars where several are parked on the street over night clogging the roads. You know, family with 2-3 kids or Billy Bob with 2 cars, a truck, a hot rod an a boat, etc....

Or maybe even folks having a party/get together where half a dozen folks spend the night.

It sounds like a great place...

...to move away from.
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First of all, you have my vote.

Second, you have my condolences when, not if, you are elected.

They will be lucky to have you.

Just keep your f’ing off the street.
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Doesn't the 10PM to 7AM restriction make overnight redundant? Basically you can't park on the street between 10PM and 7AM.

Now if you want to remove both restrictions, I would agree, as long as you keep the no more than 5 days total in a month or 3 consecutive days. Though with people working from home more these days, I'd be a bit more generous, like 10 and 7. Anything that is deemed a safety hazard is disallowed, though this last part I admit is open to interpretation. We've got a few here that are dilapidated or leaking oil and someone always calls them in. No I'm not part of the HOA but I do cringe when there's some car with cobwebs forming.
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My guess is that it's a way to keep people from having 6 cars -snip-
This makes the most sense to me.
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Having no overnight parking makes it super easy to spot abandoned vehicles and prowlers.
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The congestion part does not compute, parking is not restricted during the most active parts of the day. Can park all you want on the streets from 7AM to 10PM.

I have 5 cars, 7 when the kids are home from school. The average home here has 4 cars.

Just had a thought though, maybe it's intended to prevent a car being parked and never moving?

As in long term storing a car on the street.

Only thing that makes sense.
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Personally, I like that. Parents moved out of LA and did some growing up in a city that has no over night parking. Easy to spot the unwanted visitors but that was 2-6am. Residents can pay 11 bucks for a 3 or 4 day permit to park on the street. Believe me, the WILL spot your car and give you a nice ticket.
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Raised in a city with no overnight parking, easy for the police to see that something is up. I think it makes the neighborhood look better. No broken-down vehicles covered in dirt.
Sorry, but I am for it.
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Raised in a city with no overnight parking, easy for the police to see that something is up. I think it makes the neighborhood look better. No broken-down vehicles covered in dirt.
Sorry, but I am for it.
What city is that? Many of the cities east of LA still enforce no overnight parking. I hope they keep it that way.
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So who enforces this and how are tickets/fines issued? Placed upon the car or the house they are parked in front of? Pizza delivery at 10:15 .... yeah .... I know... but...

Barney Fife would love this...

Citizen's arrest ..... citizen's arrest
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There is one city near me, Nichols Hills, OK that prohibits ANY pickup to park at night, even a new $100,000 personal truck, even in their own driveway!

The pickups must be in the garage, or hidden in the back of the house. And it is a police enforced ordinance in the city charter.

We live in a small neighborhood that specifies a single family residence only. No parking on the streets at all overnight except occasional guests, not the residents. On my street, no one parks the cars on the street. Either they are in the driveway or in the garage.

No boats or trailers allowed, except for short term to get ready to go to the lake, type of thing.

It sure makes the neighborhood look nice without cars parked in the streets. All of our cars in in the garage if we are home.
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It's control. Any other argument is stupid.
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It's control. Any other argument is stupid.
I don't think it is just that. How would you like to have your neighbor's RV or boat or trailer park in front of your house week after week. Out here, it happens so often only because space is limited (that's not the LA I grew up in BTW) due to having so many people living on top of each other in a certain part of the city. I understand the need to have such rules for those that don't have 9 cars and slam their RV in front of someone's house. Most people are good and respectful of other's space then there's always one house, that one family that take advantage of the situation. There are so many of these thread from the past here.
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It's control. Any other argument is stupid.
^^^^ This. For every extreme example given, there is always a perfectly OK example to do so ... imho. My neighbor will park his 150K RV in his driveway for a day or two before using it on a weekend on occasion.... his 100K truck is then on the street during that time. Not hurting a damn soul but mebbe some hand wringing ninnies. He'll also have a get together a couple times a year .... a half-dozen cars parked on the street until 1-2 am. To each their own way .... a HOA ain't mine .

And it's never been a problem either .... different strokes....
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Im sure its just to keep people from regularly parking in the street in general. It is untidy. During the day its allowed because it is often nessesary. And the hoa people are probably drinkers they want the way clear so they dont have an accident on the way home from the bar.

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