911 Value In Europe?

[jyl]

There’s aircooled 911s on mobile.de for what seem like lower-than-USA prices.

E.g. https://m.mobile.de/auto-inserat/porsche-911-urmodell-ratingen/372073423.html?searchId=a24685ab-8887-4c3c-6400-16dc749c1827&ref=srp&type=eyecatcherAd

and https://m.mobile.de/auto-inserat/porsche-911-urmodell-rastatt/372448874.html?searchId=3519caf6-ebc1-dc0e-3bae-d5a3a450a52a&ref=srp&type=ad

Is this surprising? I thought 911s would be more expensive there than in the US?

[speeder]

The first one doesn't seem cheap for a midyear at all but it does say that it's a "rostfreis" Texas USA car. The black '85 might be cheap, I'dd have to put it on a hoist. Cars rust in Northern Europe and they tend to drive their 911s like pigs all year 'round and put them away wet. What am I talking about? They never put them away, they park them outside.

Still, it looks clean in the photos.

[GH85Carrera]

I have heard one reason the American 911s are expensive, is the European buyers come here to get rust free cars. There is a limited supply. My rust free 85 is for sale at 500 grand or a higher bid than that half a million.

[Zeke]

I sold my '85 Carrera to a German guy who was exporting various U.S sports cars back to Europe. There was no way it would pass the German TUV engine and tire wise. Didn't phase him. A total engine rebuild was within reach profit wise. This was over 10 years ago. For the record, he got it for 12K which was what I paid. I had very little money in that car, but I lost a little.

[911boost]

I have seen a few folks talking about buying some Euro 997 GT cars and bringing them over here and sitting on them till they reach 25.

I don't really get it.

[speeder]

The 1985 is the least desirable 3.2 car to knowledgeable people but still a good car. I’d be all I’ve the black one if I was over there.

[tdw28210]

Originally Posted by speeder

The 1985 is the least desirable 3.2 car to knowledgeable people but still a good car. I’d be all I’ve the black one if I was over there.

What about the '85 makes it less desirable than say an '84?

[speeder]

Originally Posted by tdw28210

What about the '85 makes it less desirable than say an '84?

The interior. It’s completely subjective but Porsche people, (me), can be very picky and OCD about the cars. The ‘84 is the first year and kept the 911SC interior, (desirable year), and the 1986 was a watershed year with the bigger A/C vents, improved shifter and last year of the 915 transmission. When the ‘85 came out, the new seats were so tall in the car that they looked ugly and Porsche realized it and lowered them an inch or two in the tub for 1986.

The 1987-89 are of course the G50 cars which are valued more in the market but I greatly prefer the lighter 915 cars. An ‘86 is the best, all things being equal but of course they never are. Condition trumps all else at this point.

[911boost]

I loved my 86, but it was purchased before I knew anything and the valve guides were completely shot. Was at a time when I couldn’t afford the rebuild.

Black cab with the Can Can red/black interior. I could see myself buying another one if they ever come down in price.